Nungali

Videos are not good evidence of miracles . If you can do miracle , you can show me without video . Show me another way. Here is video miracle below;

Egyptian cat says you should post there

Why should I believe you can do miracles ? You are talking in circles ....

You have been quiet lately ? I was hoping you would comment in the Atlantis thread about the idea that Kircher's map of Atlantis is a copy of an Egyptian map . . . . a bit of Egyptological learnin might not go astray there !

So does mine I think your Russian to English translator is acting up again ! (The hot dogs are now all barbecued and their tails are wagging in the swamp . ) Either that or you are trying to play word games .... which you probably will keep doing ... its a 'miracle worker' thing I suppose

'Necessity alone is supreme .'

Some of the most spiritually beautiful people I have ever met have been Persians . Their original religion seems one of the best, if not the best, I have encountered as well. My boss was Persian too, he was very good to me, and fair, we ended up becoming good friends. Better than any Aussie boss I ever had ! He is one of the very few people I trust.

Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion between supposed lovers, - Tool.

yes! I want to thank you for this .... more than clicking the button تشکر

meanwhiles ... back at the ranch ; " I decided to look up the story of how this was found. When I compared the Kircher map with ancient maps and then with maps of his time period, it's pretty clear the thing is a forgery. It does not contain features found in a "more advanced civilization map" (the shapes of Spain, Africa, and America are wrong.) It is consistent with the maps of Kircher's time in construction and data and consistent with the maps of his own part of the world. If it had been REAL... then it should * look like an ancient Greek or Roman map if it had been done in that time period * be more advanced if it was a copy of an "advanced map" form an "advanced civilization." * be a completely different style than civilizations concurrent with Kirchner (because Atlantis was a different civilization and not 16th century Europe.) You can confirm this by looking at the history of cartography. https://en.wikipedia..._of_cartography And here is a book on cartography from U. Chicago with PDF available chapters that discuss maps and show examples of maps of those time periods. http://www.press.uch...V1/Volume1.html " - from Archaeologist friend (specialising in Egyptology )

NOoooooooo ! Dont ..... I already warned ya remember . Look, you gotta start paying attention to Nungers ... he's is trying to help you, dont go down this path ..... or on second thought ...... nah ! Go for it !

You should answer my question first Lois and then I will answer yours ... to answer a question with a question of your own is evasion .

~ open transmission ~ Ahhh ...'the matrix' again ! ~ end transmission ~

When I worked in Bio dynamic Agriculture the organic people where careful not to let their natural sprays drift on to the neighbors as they might not like it ! Conversely we had ( have ? ) a big court case going here about GM crossing into organic crops. A few of my Bio dynamic customers ( some very straight old style farmers) would come in the back way and ask me not to tell anyone else they used it - worried about people mocking or subverting them Going back to primal societies and how they dealt with war : from 15.50 to 17.30 getting ready and 'planning' for war ( they belived a man from a strange group had taken one of their wives ) ..... l;ater, of course, it all goes horribly wrong . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8UCYFHnrUw

Here is another 'equally good' match ;

No,,, it showed you clear cause .... but you have not shown me clear cause to look into it. Lois ... if I said to you the creator of the World told me Atlantis is not in Gulf of Aden ... would you believe me ?

'Loopy' .... for a qualified paleontologist . 'Dreamtime' ? ... thats a very misunderstood term . But yes, most indigenous people the world over see dreams as significant .. as westerners did too not that long ago (relatively) ... even the terminology has changed , it is usually now ' I had a dream' ... it used to be 'I was given a dream' . I was given an interesting dream the other night ... I have no idea at all why 'I ' would 'have had' that dream . Its relative ; good times, good country ; about 2 -4 hrs a day needs to be spent on necessities , the rest is for fun, culture ( costume making, decorating, dancing, ceremony, education / story telling ) family, etc. Central desert , totally different ! I am still waiting for reality to deliver that 'liquid ecstasy ' I dreamed about drinking that night (and the woman I dreamed I was drinking it with )

Dudes !

Why would we is more the question. Michael put up his reasons and detailed things as to why he believed what he did, and he offered up information that seemed relevant ... and look how that turned out ! Why on earth would anyone investigate what you claim on the thin and scant reasons you present. You have to show a good reason Lois ! I can say the same to you ; why do you Lois, not look in Antarctica to find Atlantis ?

Thats a random and vague statement and has noting to do with the claims in the vid ??? For a start , they are claiming The great pyramid at Giza is on the same latitude as the sea mount ... I checked , its about 1.200 km out ! The other stuff is rubbish ! like ; the sea mont direction is angled off the pyramid at the same angle as its sides are from the horizontal base and the distance is similar to the speed of light in feet over 1 second . Are you seriously suggesting that the ancients positioned their sacral buildings ( the great pyramid ) on significant spots and lines of connection, by angling out from 'Atlantis' a certain number of degrees and then building a pyramid there with the same angled sides and when choosing how far away to build it decided to make it a similar number to the speed of light in feet per second ? Or is it the reverse ... that the Pyramid builders located Atlantis where it was due to the measurement ? Either way, this throws the whole of Egyptological research and evidence out ! The more I look into this, the more ridiculous it is. The fudges and silly claims in the commentary, the bad record of woo woo and falsification of the original video makers, the bad investigate skills of the poster, the issue that because the map was supposed;y found in the Vatican and had jesuits associated with it gives it some validity, the issue that it does not appear to predate Plato's story in any way, that Kircher copied it and changed it , that it doesn't even match Plato's description of Atlantis anyway ... then all the stuff I have found out that I listed above. Oh, so he is a visionary type ... but me, analysing it was throwing the baby out with the bathwater ? ... I do not call this vision, actually the reverse ... this is blindness to the facts caused by a desire to believe in what one finds attractive to them '... for whatever reason it would be ? What ? I investigate the claims, find them false faulty inaccurate and I ' miss the mark.' What mark is that ? Who said we were and does that have to do with it ? Wrong and woo is wrong and woo ... I am not an academic scientist either. That comment really baffles me ... seems like a red herring . All over these forums people analise , follow up, research opinionat what people post ... what has their academic standing got to do with the 'information' false or not that they post ? 'Inaccuracies ' ! I would say the crushing weight of all the evidence against what they are claiming rules out the significance of those two 'points', and looking at those two points , the shape of the structure isnt that much like the map at all , look closely , it is sort of similar in general outline and shape, but that is it. And the position ..... I still dont see what the distance in feet of the speed of light in one minute has to do with anything and it is ludicrous to suggest the Egyptians used or knew of such concepts ( please dont tell me ' but the Atantians might have known it ' ) I am not 'that sort' of occultist .... I am assuming the guys on the boat named it that as a whim or joke ... due to its location in the Atlantic, not that it resembled Kircher's map . Okay then .... I hope the books are not written by the guys that made those vids ? I found some reports of analysis of the structure, mainly basalts and other volcanic rocks with some surface debris from other nearby underwater volcanoes, it shows no evidence of being near the surface, like some other sea mounts they have discovered ( guyot - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyot ) , some features have been found in other places that may have been above sea level but this is due to land rising and falling and they show the evidence in fossilised corals and different types of rocks ( not volcanic basalts ) The Greater Meteor Seamont is about 270 meters below the surface of the Atlantic. During the last ice age (above) sea level was at least 120 m lower than it is today . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Meteor_Seamount http://www.iceagenow.com/Sea_Level_During_Last_Ice_Age.htm For a start, it isnt so and also , basically, because the whole story in nearly every part is wishful fantasy / delusion . So be it .... if you choose to believe in this idea put out by these Youtube charlatans ( Danny whatshis name ) , that is your business. My verdict is it is clearly a case of Atlantisn't .

Thats wonderful Taomeow ! But first, I agree with your point about 'warfare', I have heard it first hand how some of the ancient people here had a 'war' ( and still do traditional fighting,' law keeping' 'punishments', at times ). Each has a different way and code, apparently a war is when two groups face off in two lines, one on one and each man only fights his partner, the line with more men left standing in it wins. But there is also stories of law breaking ( perhaps one of our greatest story heroes , Pemulwuy - The Rainbow Warrior - was a result of law breaking ), treachery ( Like ' 10 Canoes' - this is an classic ! ) .... also just down the coast from me is the 'Cannibal Woman' story . Two things with paleontology ; what you say about 'modelling' is something I presented at Uni as a paper. They hated it and failed it . I did some reconstructions and made the later skulls brutish . Some examples of modern 'brutish 'lookers', a sample of a Cro-Magnon reconstruction (from some book) pictured with bright blue eyes, conditioned hair blowing in the wind ... well, like a movie star, questions about how they decide to depict an ear lobe. Since then, I have seen some mainstream stuff now pointing out some issues there, and with Neanderthals . A totally different slant on it, years back I saw a doco on some loopy Paleontologist that was blathering about a dream he had on site they were working, about a Neanderthal woman coming to him. He was stuck by her beauty, and the communication. He drew some pictures that were magnificent ! His fellow workers thought he was a bit nutty,. I haven't been able to track that down since though.

Well, I hope the little Samantha's hatch . Eggs alone this morning . Samantha's eggs .

HPB understood 'our' 'triplacies ' ( @1.16 ) albeit in rather obscure language for some ( but for me ; 'Yes! ' ) Here is a reading that demonstrates it ( although the reader may put some off .... again, not me "Partying with congressmen" ... Ha!