Nungali

Sure do ! Unless you know of a more beautiful one ? Do I get to pick time and location ? can we 'reincarnate' into the past ? ? ? I always liked this part of the 'requiem ' Gnostic Mass ; " Unto them from whose eyes the veil of life hath fallen may there be granted the accomplishment of their true Wills; whether they will absorption in the Infinite, or to be united with their chosen and preferred, or to be in contemplation, or to be at peace, or to achieve the labour and heroism of incarnation on this planet or another, or in any Star, or aught else, unto them may there be granted the accomplishment of their wills; yea, the accomplishment of their wills. "

It seems to me that some people are caught up in their opinion being the right opinion. And are concerned for the audience. Well, thanks very much chaps, for your consideration but we are not a bunch of morons . Many of us started reading this because we wanted to read Donald's take on it . I know his position as I have read a few of his other posts on the subject and I am interested. If I doubt any validity I am quiet capable myself thanks of delving into the depths of it, and following up refs and coming to my conclusions. I am also interested in the other opinion / side .... and might find at some stage I want to read more of Innersoundqigong's take on it. If I do, then I would be just as pissed off if Donald kept intruding. But this could be that I am not very educated in the field and not ready to comprehend a debate. I would rather get more solid footing in both camps before a debate ensues. ... but thats just me ... I am sure you guys are enjoying your debate, not going to back down and not 'commit the sin' of 'censorship; as the other will claim it is a 'weakness' or a default. have fun ...

Mine the gold !

yes, one meaning of the word is 'direct knowledge' meaning one can communicate or experience divinity without some intercession of a priest between you and your God. But Gnostics come in all types ... even 'white ones' that see life as a joyful beautiful and spiritual experience ... we willed to incarnate and come here and have the experience , so ... do that . Dont deny the experience. - Ever been some place absolutely fantastic and exciting ... with another person or a child, and they ; " I wanna go back home !" straight away I found this rave interesting : http://hermetic.com/crowley/magick-without-tears/ - Ch 6. 7 & 8 ' The Three Schools of Magick' Pt 1.2.& 3.

Get him boy !

Go away .... or I shall subdue your knight with my white dragon .

Did you like the quadruple one at post # 37 too

Yes ! ... and its called M A R S ! ( Sorry , I went to 'the best party ever' ; fancy dress Olympian Gods party ... I went as Ares ... it still hasn't worn off yet .... I was a boasting bigmouth ( no .... more-so than usual ) , had a red pleated skirt and a sword, and tried to start fights ... several women flocked to me .... weird huh ? Of course, I had to choose the one that came as dressed as Aphrodite .... and Aerope , Aglauros, Althaea, Anchiroe, ,Astyoche, . Atalanta, Caldene - daughter of Pisidus, Calliope, Callirrhoe , Critobule, Cyren . Demonice, Dormothea, Dotis , Eos. Erinys of Telphusa . Harmonia . Otrera . Parnassa, Phylonome, Protogeneia, Pyrene, Sete-sister of Rhesus, Harpinna - daughter of Asopus , Persephone, Tanagra - daughter of Asopus, Tereine - daughter of Strymo, Theogone, Triteia ...

Not long after that forum was created, I made a post in it about what I thought was an interesting subject for women, but also men. I was asked why I chose that forum to put it in. My reason was simple ( to me ) but I detected something else inside the question, So, without argument, I politely retired ... and haven't been back . Why do some of you guys need to poke it ?

Told ya !

fear ? ... anger ? some sort of unfairness ?... annoyance for some reason ?... WTF is your underlying problem with it ? Its like some people here are worried about what the topic might bring up ... well, it IS gonna bring something up !

Maybe they need to practice 'post retention' - it could be a similar ...... issue.

... and the shit you are getting for even bringing it up

https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/resurrection/the-sequence-of-christs-post-resurrection-appearances/

'Enthusiasm ' - that which allows us to work all night in a creative productive frenzy until " what's that light outside ? .... Dawn ! ? " Dont even need food in that state , actually, eating will bring you out of it a bit. 90 hours painting once (not in one go ) , turned out pretty amazing - then the cockroaches nibbled it in storage ....

How to live a full life ? Ask a fat westerner.

I am an environmentalist but I chuckle at the 'save the Earth people' .... save the earth ? Naw, the Earth can be a ball of lava , a toxic ocean or an airless landscape with the water boiled off ... it is still the Earth .... just stages in its growth . The Earth 'itself' , physically, probably 'cares' as much for us as I did for nits when I was 8 tears old ( or; more like the microbes on the nits) . It is more of a 'save the earth in the state that is most enjoyable for humans' concept . How many species have come and gone? Still, I dont like seeing us trash the place and deny the rights of other life forms. Its jut my personal emotive preference .... not particularly anything the Earth 'desires' Flip side ; Aboriginal friends ... and particularly teacher, definitely have this concept of earth as mother " The earth is my mother, she gives me everything I need, I just have to ask and she gives it to me, but you have to act the right way and be respectful, just like with your other mother .... and she will take care of you ." Someone ( white feller ) present scoffed at that , but was admonished that "It is true , been like that for 60,000 years until it all got mucked up, no respect now . " Well, I cant argue with that ... as long as they have access to land that hasnt been disrupted or trashed by us ... I know, I have seen them do it - in the right place, they can just wander off totally naked ( and survive indefinitely , or come back dressed in something with food to share ) . But its more than just this survival mode, I was told it would work for me in other ways - mum will give me what I ask for if I treat I her right. Okay, so I tried it .... yup ! Well, thats my experience, and it was enough for me to change my mind about it .... emotive power, coincidence, luck, whatever you want to call it .... but boy did it work well for me . Most of us may have encountered this concept from some vague New Age source , going back, the Gaia hypothesis ( and related concepts like 'biosphere', ) and earlier, those with an hermetic inclination will know, Anima Mundi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_mundi

Ah well , thats what happens when one attributes love to 'non sentient' forces ... in any case, love between people may be like that as well ; A man was walking along the waterfront, and he saw an old fishing boat up in the dry dock and an old fisherman learning against a post next to it, smoking his pipe. " Ah ... its a good life ." He greeted the fisherman. "At times .... " the other responded. "What do you mean ?" " LIfe can deal you a harsh mistress ; no matter how much you love her and rely on her ... most of the time she will look after you. But at other times, seemingly for no reason whatsoever, she will erupt in a storm of fury and lash you .... you might be lucky and barely survive ... but then, the next day, is another day , you want the food, but you want to survive... and you do it all again and hope for the best. you play your cards right and she might even work for you .... but, yes, a harsh mistress indeed I have devoted my life to. " "Ahhh ... I get you , you mean the sea ." " No, " he pointed to the boat ' the wife, she is under there scrapping off barnacles."

Good suggestion ... I dropped out of the Plato and Platonism 101 class a while back because this other professor came into the hall and the two of them started arguing.

Fantastic ! I feel a NInja parade will soon be coming to my town

... oh, I see ( I didnt get that ) ... its a belt buckle that incorporates a 'secret hidden' throwing star .... hidden on an advert that you are a NInja .... wait a minute .... I got me a secret Ninja throwing star belt ..... sweet ! < bends down to pick something up > "Ouch ! "

Yep. Especially these little square ones ;

Years back, when I started work as a postman (on a little Honda 90 step through balancing huge mail bags) the 'old hand' postman teaching me gave me his design for a dog wacker .... 1 1/2 " plastic tubing filled with small bearings or shot ... flexible, weighty and doesnt leave a mark . I decoded to start chucking a biscuit to them instead .

Yes .... I feel strangely different ..... got a bit scared so I ate a lot . I woke up the next morning and ...... ........... wait fir it ............. ......... ....