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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Nungali replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
here I was thinking board breaking as a 'highest spiritual tradition' analogy was a bit strange . But no ... lets move on to 'fashion frayed ' jeans . Or even better : Its sorta like when you go to visit 'The Big Potato' .... only to find out it got blown over by wind -
Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Nungali replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
here I was thinking board breaking as a 'highest spiritual tradition' analogy was a bit strange . But no ... lets move on to 'fashion frayed ' jeans . Or even better : Its sorta like when you go to visit 'The Big Potato' .... only to find out it got blown over by wind https://prod.static9.net.au/fs/ea79d823-9f9c-482b-88c0-71252d6fac27 -
another friend was angry about that " Her cat should have protected her ." ( knowing that cat it would have run off ) Anyway they are not dangerous , if you know what you are doing with them - when its cold they will readily accept a warm cuddle , even curl up in your lap for a nap .
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A woman I know moved into my friends cabin - its behind her house and just within the forest . First night there she wakes up in the middle of the night as something is against her leg and cold . She jumped up and ripped the covers off to find a huge diamond python in the bed . Happy New Year !
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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Nungali replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
Women say all sorts of things .... as men do . Will . Love under Will . Or do you think we should be ruled by the feelings and volatile reactions of the emotions . At least mind can be responsive and need not be reactive ... there is a difference . Both . Check nature on that one . . . you could ask a 'glass wing butterfly' -
Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Nungali replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
Leaving aside the questionable term 'highest spiritual traditions ', I will offer my perspective on the western tradition .... it may have some application to eastern traditions ? I will try to make it as simple as I can ( and this is just one aspect ) . Secrecy and control need to go together . if the secret 'gets out ' how will it be controlled ? It works this way ( let's say ) you get involved with a tradition , it has some excellent practices and teachings , but, as usual, changes and developments in yourself need to be made as you go along so as to be able to 'receive' ( understand, evaluate , etc .... in some cases a physical development might be required - otherwise the import or effect of the teaching or initiation may be not understood, discarded , 'corrupted', trivialised etc.) . So the control and secrecy needs to be in place to preserve the 'potency' of the system , otherwise if people that have not achieved a certain level of practice and understanding will change or modify the teaching to suit their current level or complete lack of understanding - then the value of the system, the secret teachings and potency of the system is lessened or lost . It becomes an empty ceremony of 'curly cues ' * that , rightly' seems a load of ceremonial rubbish . * eg ... in the Sydney Masonic Centre , a guide proudly displayed a high degree apron ; on each corner was a 'curly cue ' and one in the middle , they where all slightly different . I asked about them and that is what the guide said ; 'ornamental decoration ' . I pointed out that they nearly resembled Hebrew letters , probably YHVH and the one in the middle looked like a Shin - three tongues of flame . It seems to suggest ( at least at that degree of understanding ) that the Masons have a Jewish story or belief at the heart of their rituals but are in fact Christian and 'accept' Christ . The guide looked at me confusedly " How did you get that ?" " Yod He Vau He ... God . Shin , fire spirit descending into those four letters makes Jehovah , Jaheshawah , Joshua or Jesus . " He had no clue at all what I was talking about . How did this happen ? According to Masons , women are not 'left out ' of their organisation .... I actually heard one say they are actively involved ; they cook the food for their gatherings ( feasts ) and often make the regalia by hand . Cause real men don't cook or sew . But of course they are not taught 'the mysteries ' and over time , copying designs they changed . If the initiates themselves had learnt to sew , the 'mysteries' (in this one case ) would be preserved . - Later I found a picture of an earlier copy of that degree apron in a book and , yep, the 'curly-cues' where better formed Hebrew letters . -
Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Nungali replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
Those where your highest spiritual traditions ??? -
'Found by chance ' , Ray Martin, an Aussie journalist was flying over remote Central Australia , happened to look down for a moment and .... 'What the hell is that !? ' He took some photographs and decided to come back on land and check it out . Previously he could find no reference to it , including from the indigenous . So, they track out there and fly in by choppers , also taking some indigenous and a geologist . The area is a curved maze of ancient seabed sediments , forming rock then deeply eroded into terraces . The indigenous elder said it was part of her country but she had not been there , her ( I think ) great grand mother had been there , but not much more knowledge had passed on . From some angles it looks like a huge Aboriginal style painting . Everyone, the geologist but especially the Aboriginals where amazed . he even has a heart .
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... at times when flying over the outback I myself have looked down and 'What the hell is that ?' I actually asked once on a plane , my disinterested fellow passenger , looked away from his book, peered out and down and mumbled " Mc Donald Ranges " and went back to reading . One friend that was equally surprised with that view described it as looking down on a huge concrete car park that someone had dropped a giant placenta on from high altitude . And 'Channel Country ' ( not that far from Running Man ) .... look down and "What planet am I on ! ?" { The 'classic colours' ; ochers , reds , etc of the Australian landscape familiar to us are mostly post -colonial , post devastation . In the above post , the documentary on it, in that area , sometimes they would stop and say " In wet season this is all underwater , now its a sea of wildflowers ... all yellow to all horizons ." Then they would stop somewhere else and blue or red or white flowers , stretching all around to the horizon , all one colour . Bruce Pascoe writes about it 'Dark Emu ' - the explosive colourful landscape of pre -settlement }
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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Nungali replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
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... and today , everything works like it used to !