Nungali

ARIES. Hail thou! Whence comest thou? SCORPIO-APOPHIS. From the House of God. ARIES. What bringest thou as an offering to our Lord? SCORPIO-APOPHIS. The House of God is fallen. There is nothing left therein. Therefore I bring nothing but myself. ... ARIES. Who are ye, brethren? ... SCORPIO-APOPHIS. I am the beloved of the sun. ... SCORPIO-APOPHIS. I am the Mother of the Gods and the Sister of Time and the Daughter of Space. I am Nature that holdeth sway when the effort of man is exhausted......Brother Leo, I am the goddess that cometh forth riding upon the Lion. Behold! I strike thee with my wand, and inspire thee ....... [ from The Rite of Sol ] * The Father lives in the Son / Sun .... the daily / annual solar cycles, development of agriculture 'dying God' myth ... the king is dead, long live the (new) king ... he is born again, but in a different way. I see it as a 'genetic mystery and not as a sexual one. The sexual part of the mystery was meant to be (in post-Victorian times) enacted with one's wife, so as to produce 'spiritualised' children and create an harmoniums family environment. ,,,,, but then .... sex magic

Concentrate all energy on the hara and regulate your breath to a constant in - pause - out - pause - in - pause all the same duration and increasing in length. After a while .... you will be making friends with 'them'.

I will settle for a swift and painless transition to idyllic exile .

The way is see this issue is Shekinah is the 'soul' . But what I see as the 'soul' is an individuation of the 'spirit of man' - that faculty which makes us different from all the animals - it relates to 'projective' imagination and the needful desire to see those projections take forms, in one way or another. In that regard, I am a keen student of this myth ; http://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Psykhe.html No, I disagree , history shows the 'Mars problem' evident in nearly all patriarchal cultures. Within those cultures there are some individuals, groups, practises which have tried to address it. Changes have come about to an extent, when 'Mercury' is allowed to influence; those cultures become less 'Martially problematical ' (eg the influence of Zoroastrianism on Cyrus II ... such people are known to respect the religion and customs of the lands they conquer ... they have tempered, to an extent, their Mars energy ). I suppose though ... in a way, I am doing similar ... I am drawing an energy 'up and down' through me ... but it is energy that passes through Sephiroth , whether 'serpent or lightening bolt', I dont feel that I am moving any 'node' , as such. When we finally have true sexual equality , and 'Shekinah is redeemed' and we can acknowledge our our own souls ... for what they are and what they need , then we will have advanced, then maybe a lot of that is promised from such a redemption will begin to fill the void in the paradigm . Just using ? I would imagine any one of those paths could do that, if approached rightly. ( One Sufi 'attained' just by jumping in the river ) . They also had other parts to their lifestyles . Also I believe they were, in their own ways, Hermeticists .... the arts that are crowned by Mercurius. Well, the western parts are . But much of what appears to be western may have eastern origins. Large parts of the late 19th C and the 20th C western occult traditions and orders seem to stem from ecstatic kabbalism. Spitiualism (of the 'table rapping and ecotoplasm' variety became blended with varieties of this 'western' tantra. But then some mixed it up with (in the USA) 'cowboy Platonism' , which I would say, has to be Western ? But a lot of the western Platonic interest seemed to have dissipated. https://newtopiamagazine.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/thomas-johnson-platonism-meets-sex-magic-on-the-prairie/ Then it went down the drain of 'sex magic'. There is the HBL and its relatives and spinoffs, even given the 'Egyptian Connection' (including Blavatski's associations during her 'pre- India days' ) seems also influenced from the rad Kabbalists . East / West ... ? I wonder how the indigenous shamanism of Australia fits in there ? Sort of ... to an extent. We can have a 'boundary' ( sphere of influence ) greater than we realise , but not greater than is set for us. Its not so much a matter of moving the 'spheres' as such .... and all this talk of spheres is muddling different ideas in with Sephiroth , to me. I would look at , as in Ex-psychology... we come with some hard wiring or written programmes ... and we come with some programmes we can write into. We have some we can circumvent or utilise more, but I dont think we can just float them around or rearrange them. Many a mystery is woven into some carpets ! That looks nearly as 'messy ' as my diagrams of my 'astro/psychological tree' ( ... it goes up into theories of the Universe (including ' M theory' ) and neo-Egyptian God forms , with Jungian psychological divisions divided and inter penetrating and overlaid on it. " sorry for ranting, i find this all fascinating "

But I dont agree that we can move them around. They have moved ... or always were that way ... they are 'moved' in relation to the ToL position. However we can forge new pathways. Its the pathways and the relationships between the centres where the individual arrangements are and 'adjustments' can be made via the 'art of change'. The individual pattern within this greater template , IMO is set via the natal horoscope. EG, if the pathway in the psychic map between two nodes - is set by a 'bad aspect' one can find a good relationship via other good aspects and take a different path or approach. (ETA ; Sheesh! )

The Emperor of Australia ? . Hemianax papuensis

<goes to get off fat arse to help > Urrrgh .... < floomps back into chair > ... ahh, what the hell, it must be their karma !

Ummm .... ok then .

And they are better coca-cola drinkers

" Dont be a devil with Nungers ... " ... I love it but ... but ... but ... I like certain people being a devil with me : ... she sooo sexy !

'Strength' / 'Mars' and 'male force' (typified by Aries ) , in the human psyche, needs to polarised by Venus and regulated (and crowned) by Mercury . Then there is a very good match with the 3 psychological drives ( or 'tendencies' ) of the 'unconscious' (the Moon in the centre of the 4 inner planets. But , of course, in the psyche, they are now longer 'sephiroth'.

Ummmm U.A. I am uncomfortable in breaking this to you - re your post title .... you are not 'doing well' .... sorry about that, but you aren't. I can tell by what you write.

Actually one thing that pissed me off on the home front was how every bastard in the 3 local pagan type groups freaked out and pulled their heads in as if they were guilty of something ! I took the newspaper with its claims, my research and marched straight into the local police station (the others pleaded with me not to ! ) ... I slammed them on the counter and said 'Right ! What's this crap about?' ( part of the article said to report 'suspicious pagan activity' to the local police station. ). The cops directed me to the ,local Christian Life Centre, and they told me about the escaping paedo priest .. and on it went from there ... lasted about 2 weeks, then they admitted the whole thing had been exposed as BS (except for the priest ... who got moved elsewehere ... I think they did catch up with him. ) The only sacrifices I witnessed where by the locals roasting dead cow on BBQ by the river ... many of the pagans I knew back then were vego or vegan

One of the findings was that after childrens drawings (while in custody of these Christian ritual abuse 'experts' ) was shown as evidence as the drawings had syringes, witches, babies etc , it was later admitted that the children , while in 'therapy' and before they did the drawings were given toy syringes, and witch dolls to play with ... insidious evil bastards !

Check the origin of the confusion ... someone , one way or another has been led to be very confused .

and regardless of peoples real experiences we have to acknowledge also, I feel, that a lot of this has been exposed. I researched and and wrote an article and busted a group here doing that. ... a group that tried to prove it was happening in my area. It is a long and interesting story involving media (local and national) how a story is picked up and spread, the local police, our 'pagan group' (which appears to have been the target) the originating Christian organisation ( including a rapidly departing local priest, that was later accused of paedophilia ) etc etc. The people were associated (after I tracked them down) to a group operative in England some years back (that are now wanted by the police) , who previously left USA with charges pending. They set themselves up as 'Satanic Abuse councillors' and were found guilty of abusing the children themselves while in their 'protective care' It is an absolute scandal ... one guy had his door kicked in by disguised and armed officers who took their children and put them in 'protective' custody and charged hil with abuse and would not allow him to see his own kids (Imagine if that happened to you and your own kids ! ) During the court case, the reason for the move on this family was revealed, it was a neighbour who said he molested his kids at high altitude in a hot air balloon ! yes, the guy said, he did take his kids for a hot balloon ride ... but how would you know what I did up there, and why would I do that in the first place ??? Answer was "well, what else where you doing up there then ? ... seriously! As the cases went on, it all unravelled, to much shock and expose of what the government allowed, followed by much pain suffering and suing . I am not denying that some sicko child abusers are out there and use all sorts of covers and excuses, but it has been prooved that this other side of the story is evident . Also different cases in Western Australia ... where certain hypno 'therapists' were found to be the result of the problem ( See 'The Devil's Work' a book by the journo that covered all the stories and court cases ... several girls (then grown up) swore in court their own father molested them (after this hypno 'therapy' ) ... the court proved it was impossible, thats what started the investigation into the ;therapist' " Satanic abuse is a 'myth', a government-backed inquiry has concluded. No evidence was found to substantiate any of the 84 cases in which it was alleged that children were sexually abused in bizarre black-magic rites. The findings, exclusively revealed by the Independent on Sunday in April, were published yesterday after a three-year inquiry conducted by Jean La Fontaine, emeritus professor of social anthropology at the London School of Economics. The report blames Evangelical Christians and self-proclaimed 'specialists' for the scare which led to police investigations across Britain from 1988 to 1991. The conclusions will strengthen claims for compensation by families whose children were taken into care after false accusations of child sex abuse in satanic ceremonies." rest of article http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/satanic-abuse-dismissed-as-myth-by-government-inquiry-report-blames-evangelical-christians-and-specialists-for-the-scare-which-led-to-investigations-rosie-waterhouse-reports-1420013.html Beware!

I see the' fall' as a necessary rearrangement when using the creative arrangement of the ToL into a personal map of one's psyche - Geburah / Mars has to 'drop' down into the Venus / Mercury / Moon relationship, and this changes the whole structure of the Tree (as it relates to the psychological make up) like a collapsed crystal, and forms a new shape.

That photo reminds me of here, except add a laptop. Its weird ... I can live out here in my little cabin ... and talk to you guys on the other side of the world, zoom down a valley in Tibet on google maps and check out Egyptian pre-dynastic burial pits .... while relaxing in a deckchair naked in the sun and have my coffee brewing on the fire next to me . (Its okay, its winter at the moment - I am , mostly, clothed )

Ohhh ... I can tell you how the salt water and the fresh water got divided .... loong before Those pesky newcomer Babylonians ! You see, back in the dreamtime ... no, not that dream time, the other dream ..... Wallaby, goanna and bush cockroach decided to have a ceremony, they sent bush cockroach off to find some ochre , he came back, mixed it up and made some nice paint. "Now paint me" said Wallaby and bush cockroach did. Did a good job too ! The wallaby painted lizard and he did a good job too. They stood there admiring each other. But cockroach said "Hey ! What about me? No one has painted me!" So lizard , "Ohhh all right then " But he didnt do it very good . And cockroach (as they say nowadays ) got pissed off. Actually he he got so pissed off that he started pissing ..... and pissing ... and pissing and he pissed here and he pissed there and he pissed everywhere ! " HEY! What are you doing ? "said goanna - and he pissed on him. "Stop that!" said wallaby and he pissed on her too ! And then he started pissing in their goanna's water "Hey ! Dont do that! You will turn the water salty! " Wallaby grabbed her paperbark dilly bag full of water and stuck it her pouch But he kept pissing in and then he pissed all over the camp site and the bushes and the tress and then he pissed in the creek and all the water ... and it all turned salty . "Now look what you have done, " said wallaby, "You turned all the water salty.... except for my bit !" and she hopped away with it. Thats why, there is still a lot of fresh water around, but most of water now is salty { Acknowledgements to the Gamalanga Milingimbi }

Some of the above I link together very differently than you do .... but this thread isnt about 'Zoroastrian philosophy' ... I might be able to discuss it elsewhere , but one point : You have never heard slee and death equated before in many cultures ? Sleep is the 'little death' ... as is orgasm also known ... ;' the little death ' . It's not too hard to fathom .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152531/Split-colored-lobster-caught-Maine-1-50-million-find.html

Well, I have no idea whether I am an ' Ashlager' Kabbalist or not ... but any and all kabbalah I have studied never gave me the impression that the energy coming out of a sephiroth was the same energy as went in (if that is what you mean) ... I mean, that would defeat the whole purpose of having sephiroth/s in the first place.

I am familiar with interpreting Sephiroth titles into English ... I am just not familiar with the way you are doing it, and your spelling and language. 'According to interpretation ' ... what or whose interpretation ? Are you a Hebrew speaker ? Are you going off modern or ancient? What is the source of 'bina' being reason ? I spell it BInah; beth yod nun he, and comprehend the sephiroth title's name as 'understanding. Which is totally different from intelligence or reason (as some refer to it ).. So I am not sure if this is literal, modern Hebrew, some variant of kabblah or your own version ( alone or of the variant ) ? And this left and right side of the brain attribution ... is that based on Zohar , or what is the reference? I thought this mapping of the ToL on the human body was a Golden Dawn Innovation that has been picked up by 'New Age Kabbalists' ?

IMO the polarity needs to fluctuate , one ]side' needs to contain a bit of the other. The 'receptive womb' takes in and gives out, the act of male generation takes in and then gives out ( the 'germ- spirit- baby ' from the waterhole and into the womb/ mother - actually the waterhole takes in the 'germ-baby] and gives it out to the man. Wallenganda ( sky snake / Milky Way ) , a mother, spits out water / venom/ semen? down onto Ungud ; male, earth snake creator, he takes it in and goes int o earth womb and gives out dreaming of life, rock paintings take in life patterns / forms / and give them out to country ... and so on. Like Sephiroth. I see the 'one' as the middle path between the polarity. We exist in duality so there is no 'real unity' perceived by us; that is beyond our 'abyss'. But we can experience 'the one' as the middle principle or apex of multiple forms of the basic triune energy patterns evident everywhere. I agree about the 'new age' ' we are all one, we all own everything, we are one being ' etc ... in my experience I have heard it most when trying to collect an entry fee to the festivals we used to put on