Nungali

Its the stimpy part I judged you on

..... I've really gotta go and eat breakfast (I said that hours ago ) ! !

I like the idea of describing 'tendencies' that things have before they come into existence There comes a stage where we eventually get to ... 'just dont know' ... it doesnt bother me, but many have come up with all sorts of verbiage to say that in another way No matter how 'far back' one goes ... one can always ask the 'next further back ' question.

IMO , cosmologically order /chaos are of a different origin and concept to falsehood and disorder in the human psyche and socio-culture. If that is what the original question / post was about. One is a 'conflict' with the forces of physics, the other a development of social mores and taboos. The involvement of humanity IMO is restricted to the development ( to follow the Zoroastrian analogy) of the 'Mainyus' - Spenta Mainyu and Angra Mainyu ... " Good or bad mind'. A Spenta Mainyu can be developed by practice and attitude , it is brilliant, constructive and beneficent and is embodied in a 'Ratush' or 'righteous leader' of men. But the gloomy, negative and destructive Angra Mainyu but is embodied in Ahriman, an incarnation of the Devil. Which seems a strange polarity. IMO neither are a pre-existent state ..... they are developed via circulation in a feedback system ( both in individuals and in societies) .... it seems , for some, to come from beyond one's conditioning and developing of Spenta Mainyu in life, as they are just 'bad seeds' and where would this come from if not a pre-existent 'cause' . Mainyu is 'spirit' and spirit can mean 'one's essential differentiation ' or one's unique individuality. But even if one takes reincarnation and any 'sticky karmna' out of the equation, we still have IMO 'genetic carry over. You cant expect to cure a vicious guard dog in one session, it will take time. The same with sociopathic 'genetic' traits. It seems some cant be cured by a good upbringing and practising the qualities of Spenta Mainyu to develop Vohu Mano * ( not in one life time) so another external cause is sought or blamed. * Good mind or mental outlook Persona: Grace, generosity of spirit, good manners. Traits: Wisdom in thought, measured speech, and beneficent action. Possessing six virtues: Reason, self-control, modesty, trustworthiness, gratitude, and hope. Without six vices: Malice, anger, arrogance, deceitfulness, greed, and despair (I wish there was more of these teachings .... Today, out of the twenty one books of the Sassanian era Avesta, only one complete book and fragments of others survive after the Arabs, Mongols and Turks invaded and burnt them )

I thought he meant 'hyle' The undifferentiated 'stuff' that existed within Chaos ( the limitless ) ... as 'the waters' ... then the waters 'above' were divided from those below . (Which always amuses me ; how was there an above or below before the division? ) ... with a ...... 'divider' - vault, space, expanse, firmament, canopy, horizon, .... http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-7.htm " And divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; the lower part of it, the atmosphere above, which are the clouds full of water, from whence rain descends upon the earth; and which divided between them and those that were left on the earth, and so under it, not yet gathered into one place; as it now does between the clouds of heaven and the waters of the sea. Though Mr. Gregory (a) is of opinion, that an abyss of waters above the most supreme orb is here meant; or a great deep between the heavens and the heaven of heavens, where, as in storehouses, the depth is laid up; and God has his treasures of snow, hail, and rain, and from whence he brought out the waters which drowned the world at the universal deluge. Others suppose the waters above to be the crystalline heaven, which for its clearness resembles water; and which Milton calls the "crystalline ocean", And it was so: the firmament was accordingly made, and answered this purpose, to divide the waters below it from those above it; or "it was firm" ©, stable and durable; and so it has continued. (z) ------and God made The firmament, expanse of liquid, pure, Transparent, elemental air, diffused In circuit to the uttermost convex Of this great round.------ Milton, Paradise Lost.

This is not the QBL I am familiar with. I would not call 'Bina' 'reason' nor spell it that way ... nor spell Hohma ... is this Lurian ... or confusion or .... ?

Okay The sun came up, the mist cleared, now all the leaves on the trees outside are shining with patches of silver. The Kookaburras just had their early morning chorus. The sky is a brilliant clear winter deep blue. Propped up in bed in my little wooden cabin, the fire coals are till glowing from last night. I might get up soon and cook some toast over them , then go out in the sun, sit in the dirt and weed the sparse winter veggie garden . When it warms up more I might go down the river and net some little mosquito fish for Snappy ( the axolotl ) snacks

Thats the idea ... to find out what people think they are

Or Nundah ( a place in Queensland .... some Murrays told me; "The whites had a black tracker to hunt down other blacks, round them up and take them away to the missions. They sent him over a hill and said to see what was on the other side. It was a big camp of Murrays, lots of kids and women, and he felt sorry for them, that their like was about to be disturbed. When he came back they asked him what he saw over the hill, any blacks? " Nun dhere Boss !" and the name stuck ... what's over the hill ? Nundhere !

AHA! THIS ! I have had people deny that I feel this .... real contentment ... satisfaction , at peace ..... a continual joy at just being alive. They deny that I can feel like that ... like I am bullshitting about it ... for some reason . I often keep quiet about it nowadays , as it seems to make some people upset and angry I watched people give answers recently about what caused the most pleasure. Most said sex. I thought about it for a while and came up with 'being alive'.

I just checked mine, it says my gender is unknown .... I didnt know that I didnt know what my gender is

yeah ... but I know what you are like a bit now. What I dont like is when a body makes a post, particularly if they want an answer about something that may be self-referential ... or even just something obscure, and you go to their profile to get some background info and the profile is just about blank. Then I usually dont bother continuing. So that might be a good reason for you to leave it blank

Pulls out belt ... looks down his pants ..... looks closer ..... nope ! Still unknown .

Tzim tzum is the process of 'making' that void, is it not ? First comes the void, no concept. Then comes the idea of that void being 'limitless' ( the idea of 'space'. then it is filled with light. The Light 'condenses to Kether.

Nice little Suplex here (serves him right ! )

I dont believe it . If it is true I am going to report Ubereagle to the department of taxi registration.

Does not the Kabbalistic pre-existence reside in the ideas of Tzim-tzum ? If Ain Soph is light ... it can be named . Can the Dao be named or defined , as to what it is ( as opposed to what it isnt ? I have always assumed 'pre-Kether' was a tripartite process (I would not be going off the Wiki definition of Ain Soph here ) ; Ain ... Ain Soph ... Ain Soph Aur . Going 'back beyond ' this Tzim Tzum seems to have 3 concepts related as well. - But this may not be a Lurian concept ? More and more I see the basis of all as '3 in 1' ... the 4th principle (or element ) is 'removed' or stands 'alone' (, eg. gravity in the 4 forces, earth in the 4 elements) or is resultant from the 3 .; Yin Yang Dao - way + - charge - energy wave particle light - illumination As far as any 'unified field theory' , yes, I think we will get there ( and yes, not via religion ) ... but I think it is already 'there' , we are already seeing it, in ways. It is just , at the moment ( 'scientific age' ) we are a bit busy looking through a 'microscope' ( specific lens or even paradigm) and that entails not looking at what is outside the field of that microscope. I think the focus will come back ( that focus which made us look at certain ideas and theories at the expense of others we perhaps should have incorporated ?) .... after we learn enough from the microscope, we may apply what we realised and go back and review what we passed over ( like the concepts of Broome, Wallace, some concepts in Vedanta and 'Neo-Platonism' and further studies in genetics,may really boost our understandings of evolution ?

Look ... it shouldn't be that hard to get out of ..... maybe if you lost some weight , hmmmm ?

I found lots of things in NZ they did better .... a lot opener trusting and more friendly (back then anyway ). The make better ice cream too . ... but the beer is piss weak. Even the bikers were nice to me (after I out drunk the whole gang on their cat's piss beer ... then made them drink bourbon with me afterwards But they can seem a little .... 'intimidating' ..... before one gets to know them Twice, got picked up hitch hiking, got a bed and dinner and use of a car the next day ... by myself, they let a total stranger drive off in their car ! Camped in a place where I bought the food back with that I took as the camp site had fresh greens, vitamins minerals protein and carbs ( berries, watercress,mushrooms, trout, sweet potato, ) ! Camped on the best land, got free jet boat rides ( a few free rides on women too ... ) very 'generous' ! One time I was out in the forest alone , except for a crew of gigantic Maori loggers I happened upon at lunch time. They called me over , this giant guy made me sit next to him. "Here ya go cousey-bro, have some dough boys and an eeig and vegumite sandwich ... cant let you go hungry bro !

I suppose its only fair that I reveal the Aussie equivalent ;

If you were German you would be ... thirsty apparently !

Had to put this here Lesson in bag snatching is over dude !

Nah ... it just means we have better imaginfuckinations then you do

Yeah right. Average family it is supposed to be. Look, I can just go out and pick stuff where I live; tropical exotics and native, multiple vegie gardens, we used to have tofu and tempeh plant operating , made home brew. I could eat the fish and turtles in the river if I wanted ... average Aussie diet and expenses - no way ! I have read a few people in The 'States , (and even on this forum) state food is expensive for them in the U.S. and hard to afford. here is your USA average; 220 pounds When I say 'eat good' ... man , check the actual items in the photos !

Just for fun ... this is what happens if you dont run up the back ( over the seats, shipped oars , etc ) in time ;