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What To Do When Someone Says You Are Going To Die?
Nungali replied to DreamBliss's topic in General Discussion
Great advice ! Hop a bus, take the bike. Head somewhere that is suitable for biking, with lots of different places and people not too spread out. I wouldnt advise going to a 'big popular' place or anywhere where people are drawn that are 'going to California'. We have a destination like that here; people go there as its supposedly THE place .... its packed with people seeking ..... 'something' and there are markets waiting to rip them off ... hundreds offering 'therapies' ... some, I am sure, they made up themselves ... and it is sorta like a mass meat market full of tripped out shallow people seeking pop enlightenment - urk AND ... expensive ! I went to the outskirts ... quiet a way out, much nicer people out there. met some, they invited me back to their place which was a series of cabins and shacks built on the different levels and roads of an old banana farm - vegie gardens, communal kitchen and meals ... then I found out some of them also rented, probably the last old house, on the coast, between the apartments and shops, so we could also stay there at the beach and have a place in the hills. Then I started to meet their friends ... and so on. and it all started with me pulled up on the side of the road, leaning against my motorcycle having a smoke and looking at the fork in the road ahead ..... " Now ... should I go left or right ?" yeah ... you could just kill yourself instead I suppose .... but what a bummer if you did just before you were about to have your 'life changing experience' . -
What does it mean when you more often the top poster, than not?
Nungali replied to Songtsan's topic in The Rabbit Hole
And also, dont balance your laptop on the handle bars and make posts on daobums. Did you have a wild birthday party ? -
And the post that is not about the HGA is not about the HGA. One need not cross an abyss for contact or to receive the influence of 'HGA' Eg, in the GD HGA is attributed to below the Abyss on the ToL. I mean ... if you think a bit, it makes little sense on any plane to have a concept like one's HGA above an abyss of sense of and operation in the field of 'oneself' .
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What the hell is the abyss anyways?
Nungali replied to BaguaKicksAss's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
I haven't read that but I have read his paper on the ' Order of the Asiatic Brethren ' - very interesting. He writes and researches pretty good for a self-stated non academic. -
Then .... to make them more comfortable .... mine have become more comfortable and at ease since they have arrived. So guys , has anyone decided what 'an entity' actually is yet ... and do we (except me ) all think we understand the word the same way as each other, in the same meaning and context ?
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Sure ... its a great occult 'theme' .
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how about this; It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them. The student, if he attains any success in the following practices, will find himself confronted by things (ideas or {13} beings) too glorious or too dreadful to be described. It is essential that he remain the master of all that he beholds, hears or conceives; otherwise he will be the slave of illusion, and the prey of madness ..... There is little danger that any student, however idle or stupid, will fail to get some result; but there is great danger that he will be led astray, obsessed and overwhelmed by his results. or this If this idea be any but the Supreme and Perfect idea, and the student lose control, the result is insanity, obsession, fanaticism, or paralysis and death (add addiction to gossip and incurable idleness), according to the nature of the failure. (The accorded 'natures ' , in the same order of the failures are : Gnana, Raja, Bhakta, , Hatha, Mantra, Karma 'Yogas' and their equivalents ) Makes one wonder about the 'failures' of those on multiple paths
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< imagining what one of Songtsan's birthday parties would be like .... >
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Maybe we should get Miles Barlow to 'review ' it ?
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No it doesn't Yes it does. Thats a funny little comment on a very big subject. It seems to talk about the emotive content of supporting an eidolon - like the Egyptians used to believe ... and just about everyone since - preserving memory, emotions,making offerings, a special place, a statue, etc. causes the dead to live on. I could write hundreds of pages on this subject before I got to something like the above quote. I disagree , we are told to love unconditionally , rarely are we taught how on earth are we going to achieve that. (Or maybe we are 'taught' that in a no longer relevant way ? ) . But I agree it is a problem ! yes, and I have lived through and tried to help another's despair with this, more than once, in the realm of mothers and children. I believe the same happens in this area ; people assume they are programmed to deal with parenthood. Not usually IMO, it has to be learnt, especially for the young. In some cultures and families, the young are expected to take part in looking after their younger siblings. A young girl having a baby has a village and auntie support network, etc. This level ( pelican ) is not for beginners .... it is 18 (out of 33) or 5 (out of 9 ) degree level. Not for beginners - you have to train develop and pass the previous degree levels before one can start beginning to practice this, by then you should have some tools to be able to deal with what arises ... oh, stuff will arise all right . Yes. Good observation ! The reverse side of the apron represents the ' preliminary horror' one traverses and triumphs over first ( the 'black room' ) to get to this 'state' . It is enacted as some sort of trail where things try to drag you down. The relevant variations of the rite are now published (if you can find them on the net ) and can be looked up and studied ' FM - 18th Deg, GD - 5 = 6 , ( .... = 11 ) , OTO - 5th Deg, etc. This first stage - which has a lot to do with 'clearing' the 'lower astral' can also be summed up by this old evocative hymn ; http://hermetic.com/crowley/equinox/i/i/eqi01011.html Heart is a pump .... it pumps in , then out. If you have 'pump in' closed, its going to run out of a supply eventually. Fortunately the supply, if you can connect to it, is universal, endless and cyclic. Indeed, there is a lot of preliminary work before this level, actually, its on a whole different plane to the preliminary stuff. You look after that garden of yours ... and before long it will produce more than enough food and you can start distributing. Aside from the above symbols ? Just about any form of cross and circle , as simple as or
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Warning, playing this could summon an entity ... I guess I should have put the warning before the clip
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Pain day sky beauty die black joy love empty day life die pain passion joy black day hate beauty die life joy ache empty day pain die love passion joy black light And if God is dead what am I, a fleck of dirt on the wing of a fly hurtling to earth through a hole in the sky And if Warhol's a genius, what am I, a speck of lint on the penis of an alien buried in gelatin beneath the sands of Venus Time sun hurt trust peace dark rage sad white rain sun anger hurt soft trust night rage rain white hope dark sacred sun time trust hurt rage anger rain white light And if a bird can speak, who once was a dinosaur, and a dog can dream; should it be implausible that a man might supervise the construction of light the construction of light Pain day sky beauty die black joy love empty time sun hurt trust peace dark rage sad white rain hate anger hope sacred passion life night ache soft light
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When the shadows slink and slither, And the goblins all parade; Then reason is a broken reed At the devil's Masquerade. Don't believe the human eye In sunlight or in shade. The puppet show of sight and sense Is the Devil's Masquerade. Demons Drink from human skulls And souls are up for trade. Take wine and drugs and join us in The Devil's Masquerade. Only a Magus and a Knight trueborn And a virgin unafraid, Can walk unharmed amid the dance Of the Devil's Masquerade.
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I think the word 'entity' is fashionable and vague. I totally agree with you about the 'forces' ( even more vague ) of nature . My approach is, if I need something I " ask mum" and she happily distributes her bounty with my appreciation and gratitude. In the other thread with the bio dynamic preparations, some people make some and distribute purely as an 'offering ' to the 'nature spirits'. http://fernverrow.com/2011/01/06/three-kings-preparation/ I often recommend this as a guideline: As it was said unto thee in the Grade of Theoricus: "Be thou therefore prompt and active as the Sylphs, but avoid frivolity and caprice. Be energetic and strong like the Salamanders, but avoid irritability and ferocity. Be flexible and attentive to images like the Undines, but avoid idleness and changeability. Be laborious and patient like the Gnomes, but avoid grossness and avarice." So shalt thou gradually develop the powers of thy Soul and fit thyself to command the spirits of the elements. For wert thou to summon the Gnomes to pander to thy avarice, thou wouldst no longer command them, but they would command thee. Wouldst thou abuse the pure creatures of God's creation to fill thy coffers and to satisfy thy lust for Gold? Wouldst thou defile the Spirits of driving Fire to serve thy wrath and hatred? Wouldst thou violate the purity of the Souls of the Water to pander to thy lust and debauchery? Wouldst thou force the Spirits of the evening breeze to minister to thy folly and caprice? Know that with such desires thou canst but attract the evil and not the good, and in that can the evil will have power over thee. ( G. D. 4 th Knowledge lecture ) people may scoff ... but how much has modern western civilisation is focused on ; fill thy coffers and to satisfy thy lust for Gold? And how much have we given this power over things - many, many things ? Throw in lust and porn, caprice and folly, and wrath hatred and war and we have a 'lovely' little package going. But there are other 'entities' that do need commanding, at times and in certain situations. I would call them 'persecuting demons'. Another way is to look at the rushing fire and whirling air as components of your own psyche, you should have 'mastery' over them, the same as a Yogi attempt to master his physical body. Commanding 'every spirit of the firmament' does seem a bit 'much' . .... that is , if there is a difference between the 'firmament' and one's ' own psyche' . I see it as I do dogs in a way. some are nice, some are nasty ( and yes, I realise that is for a reason ) , I have been able to 'charm' a viscous guard dog .... but some are so far gone, I will either 'command' them ... or keep out of their territory !
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Just as a side point of interest ... this 'watery bird' has its counterpart in fire with the phoenix. It can be seen as the 2-headed 'eagle' (the emblem of the 'Senate', 30th degree ,'Knight Kadosh', etc. ) in the above Empress card , but also appears in its more fiery form in the Emperor card of that deck. Put together, the two birds have interesting and historical symbolism. sorry for the diversions .... back to tarot ... I mean, back to 11 : 11 :
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Obverse. There is a reverse side to this jewel - the 'other side of the story' - but no pics of that. The reverse and obverse nature are reflected in the apron Yes, the blood giving pelican is an apt symbol, although of course nothing like that actually occurs. The blood given up is one's advancement; stopping to give the time and energy to help others, much as a Bodhisattva - one who has attained and could 'go on', but 'comes back' to help others 'go on'. Obviously a R+C symbol.
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Well, you learn something new everyday. What I have learned to day is I had not seen the most stupid kung fu movie ever. I may have now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyTxkLoYwbQ check the head shake right on 0.27 .... nah, that aint gonna clear you head
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Brain body programming ... very interesting
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This is weird, I used to be able to do nutty stuff like that, We had a very dangerous and risky place we used to hang off , people would get sick and dizzy just watching me. Now, I am the one that gets dizzy , feels weird and gets wobbly knees when I approach a chasm ... dont remember the change, I had a long break from that stuff, then one day when I tried something like it .... whoaa! It was not until I got in this thing that I realised it had an open metal mesh floor Half way across the tour guide goes " And if you look down to the left, far below, you will see the remains of the last cable car."
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no ... that would be called 'infested with astral larvae' They are like big slug leeches that usually hang off the back of the neck , and other parts. They can be removed with a special copper knife, ritually made and devoted to 'Astarte' by scraping them off at the sucker points , ( so the Necronomicon says ) Oh boy ... are some of the posters gonna loooove that one ! ~ Come Thou forth, and follow Me: and make all Spirits subject unto Me so that every Spirit of the Firmament, and of the Ether: upon the Earth and under the Earth: on dry land, or in the Water: of whirling Air or of rushing Fire: and every Spell and Scourge of God, may be obedient unto me !
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Lead to gold - any guide books out there?
Nungali replied to Rara's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
We did some chromatography on it as well; http://www.biodynamics.in/chrom.htm http://sustainablesmallholding.org/chromatography-soil-fertility-biodynamic-agriculture/ -
Interesting post ! One of the 'fraternal bonds' in one of the more radical 'spiritually anarchistic' initiatic group's ceremonies state; my knee bends not in supplication either to you, nor to another. Yet later there is kneeling .... but of two types. One is a 'bluff' and if one does kneel they are likely to get the response " Get out of here you crawling, pathetic pleader ! " The other type of kneeling seems 'glorified' and is a type of 'adoration' . Supplicate seems to mean ask, entreat or beg,. To me supplicate - and the definition example in some dictionaries talks about pleading for one's life. For me this goes along with the angry patriarchal God of fear ... fear the Lord ! A lot has been written about that ! The Lord is angry crawl around and hide yourselves in the cracks of the earth Well, screw that ! ( see what ' spiritual anarchism ' will do to you ! ) But a 'prayer (or act) of adoration' is something entirely different.To adore is worship - acknowledgement of worth. In a way, one is acknowledging something greater than themselves and looking up to it, this becomes 'uplifting' in a way and 'raises one up'. Its not quiet like " or like to feel that making themselves low raises them up" I believe the 'correct magical view' is to place an ideal or 'target emulation' 'up' there as something to achieve, that will 'automatically' draw you up ... a bit like a sprinter may hold the record up there above him, he cannot achieve it yet, but that is what he aims for. I know if I adore and appreciate and love nature, I am in a very good mood and uplifted and glowing and appreciative. If I fear nature ... well, it certainly isnt enjoyable . No wonder the Tibetans, in your experience, were more uplifted and glowing ,,, they had not been cowering and crawling around in fear ! Hide thyself in the bowels of the earth, the Lord is upon you ! - if you dont know where that is, here are directions with all the biblical references about hiding in the earth to prove it (more Christian wisdom ) http://www.ourhollowearth.com/TheLivingEarth.htm On another level, one can think of it as a relationship ( and supplication and adoration in religion and spirituality are a reflection of relationship with deity ) .... I have had a kneeling, pleading, supplicating 'dont leave I will die without you ' 'devotee' .... I have had an adoring appreciating, acknowledging my worth 'devotee' as well . I know what I would prefer .... and so should God ! [ See; spiritual anarchist ; I will tell God how to 'fly right'. ] What's that movie where the old man is accosted by the gang , they won't let him pass but he doesnt want to fight, the push him down and tell him to crawl around like a dog ... now he is kneeling on the ground and they are standing over him ... legs apart, groin right near his head and ... yep ... butt ! wham ! .... - stupid juvenile bullies ! (What on earth is he doing with his left hand ?
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Mine says 8:20 .... I will be back in 2 hrs and 51 mins .to finish this post ...
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That is NOT the place to leave a banana skin !