Nungali

Oh .... it was homophobia then ! I couldn't be sure ; I was just nudging you , to see if it was there .

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Good point . The bedrock , regolith and intrusions and mineral seams play an important part in this . Much of the 'energy' in Australia , specifically in the dry interior , is basically so old and eroded its 'skeletal' . We have some of the first cratons ever formed as the Earth solidified here . Many years ago I was fascinated by a dream phenomena I was having ; I would be walking through the forest , up to the back ridge of the property , everything normal, then the next step, I would be somewhere else , as if I stepped though a 'portal' . I had an indigenous elder visiting and asked him about this . He asked me to describe it . I said the spot where things changed is where the old lightening tree is ( a spot that gets hit by lightening sometimes ; one bolt hit a big tree there , blew the outer wood off in four pieces in four directions , the crown got blown to 'smithereens' , the interior upper part got wedged down sideways through the thick, split base making a weird blackened cross on the hill ) . He closed is eyes and sussed out the energy ; " It 'comes out ' down there in the ground .... somehow ( it was night, he had not seen the terrain in daytime , arriving that night . He had pointed out and down at a window . I told him that is right as out there the land drops steeply away and goes down to the river . I told him about the unusual rock formation there and a little yoni shaped cave at water level . he nodded and said, " Yes .... women's place .... probably birthing pool . It comes up here in a line , through your place , over there and goes up steep ." Me : " Thats 'Pyramid Hill ' its pretty 'energetic up there . " " Then it turns, rises steeply , comes near the surface , probably at that tree , goes up, keeps going, leaves the land behind . Thats where you 'step off' in your dream . " I talked to a guy that was into 'magick stuff' that was also a professor in geology , he said it is probably a quartz seam, where they come near the surface they attract lightening . Not many can handle this energy , I like it . I got my place as no one else wanted it . One woman that was thinking of buying before me slept her one night and said she never would do that again . However many people I know (including my indigenous teacher ) like to go to Nimbin and a feature there 'Lillian Rocks ' - I can t go near the place ! Gets weird vibes just doing a drive by . And at nearby Cathedral Rocks , like the place , but stay longer than an hour a bad headache develops . Having two huge boulders either side of the track in that look like two matching big brained alien heads is a good intro the place Also, at the top (if you make it ) there is a step up with a small cave under it . It gives a strong message to put your hand in . Why ? What is in there ? Something good, or a tiger snake ? even so I could not resist the compulsion, had to lie down and put arm in up to the shoulder, then I felt a little rock, picked it up , it was a black smokey quartz crystal . I took it home and told the story. Someone said I should show it to Loris and tell him . I did , apparently he had exactly the same experience and has a black crystal from there too . he said I should talk to Eleni . I did , she had the exact experience but put her hand in plan up and a crustal fell onto it from the roof of the little cave ! The top :

On what , specifically ?

..... and now, that guy reported me for being 'racist .... AND I got a mod warning for it ! For posting pictures of different ethnic types in India ! Thats one way to 'win' a debate !

Are you familiar with 'Genius Loci ' ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_loci Here , with the indigenous, such concepts hold high importance , the 'spirit' of a place plus your 'belonging ' - becasue you came 'out of a place' (in the landscape or 'country' that you where born in ) . Ideed , to the extent that a few years back an indigenous artists won the premier 'Archibald Prize ' portrait competition with a painting of her home 'country' . It was protested but the decision was upheld as such indigenous people see themselves and their specific landscape as the same thing . To see the 'self' as somehow different or separate from it would be to deny a huge part of your identity meaning and purpose . We have many different types of 'power sites ' and also some that are 'bad juju' . They are highly regulated by tradition and Law . I posted about one on Daobums years back , it was about Ainslee Robert's - he started off as reasonable artist but seemed to have developed some problem with coping, or depression ; " In 1950, with a burgeoning business employing 35 staff, Roberts experienced what was diagnosed as a nervous breakdown and was ordered rest and quiet. His wife Judy bought him a one-way ticket to Alice Springs, " - that's one way of dealing with your partner having a breakdown ! He moped around there for a while until some guy took pity on him and thought 'You need a stint out in the bush and they took horses on a trek and at one point decided to go into this site - ' Palka Karinya ' . A radical place , a gorge with a huge 'needle spire' stuck into the ground in the middle , as if a huge shard of nearby rock and been broken off and speared down into the ground . The horses would not enter , even for water . They camped in there overnight . Something happened to Ainslee that night he never 'recovered' , but from then on he became one of Australia's renown artists ( well, used to be , the general public doesnt seem to know much of him any more . Daobums might find this view interesting : " On entering the Palka Karrinya gorge, it is tradition to circumambulate and touch the monolith stone representing the Jungarrayi ancestor, with a branch of eucalyptus – first timers have to throw a stone in a rock pool nearby. This is why it is worn at the base. From a Taoist perspective, all the horizontal strata of the rocks in the gorge and the red colour would create a very potent masculine Yang chi. Conversely the sole vertical shard, due to its vertical Yin orientation and the yin water in the rock pool next to it, would concentrate, by virtue of polarity, a powerful Yin feminine force. ... Of all the sacred places that Ainslie Roberts visited in Central Australia, Palka Karrinya had the most profound influence. He believed that Universal archetypes manifested through myths and could be channelled by the artist. Mountford felt the original spirit of the land could be accessed through the ceremonies, art and myths of the Aborigines and glimpses of ancient powers and histories as old as time itself could be experienced. "

I dont dream about being naked . I dream about other people being naked though ; Taoist Texts , Apech, Steve , Limnal Luke ....

Dude ! You dont walk through air ! When you move along ( by walking or other means , OR you stand still and the air walks around you ) , the air parts and goes around you , you go between it, not through it .

have you tried them with coca-cola on them instead of milk ? One might even think they where .... unpopular. I never knew how popular they where until I did catering in the film industry . They like a big spread for breakfast ; cereals, milks, fruits, eggs, bacon, fried tomatoes, mushrooms, various breads, porridge, congee and other things , but ..... Where are the fruit loops ? We ran out . Whaaaaat !? - that and cocco pops . Not the kids, but full grown working adults ( and some famous actors ) shoving shoving hard crunchy mini donuts dyed natural bright colors with milk poured over them . Limnal Luke may well be hiding a secret film star identity behind that name .

Another way is to turn it all on its head . How can one do that ? By changing one's perception ! I see miracles everyday in the 'normal natural world' . Because of our conditioning, we turn a blind eye to it and slot it into our consciousness as normal, everyday, natural, understood and rational experience . But that is just a way of looking at things . I get wonder and excitement from finding a seed , taking it home , nurturing it, watching it sprout, helping it grow, planting it out , watching it over the years grow into a huge hoop pine , now it functions as the tallest 'lookout tree', that some bird has usually perched up in to warn the others of approaching eagles and other predators and providing nests for birds , watch the hatchling being fed and learning to fly . Watching the fire burn .... how does that even happen ?! Looking up to the starts at night ... wow ! Separate your self from all this , observe it from afar in 'non-existence' now imagine if you could be involved in all that and experience it ..... there is your miracle , everything is 'magical ' . You want to " hit the core beliefs I have about reality so hard they shatter. " Indeed ! It is a 'perspective' .

On another forum ; An Indian claims that all Indians are alike , its ignorant to assume differences , any one that traveled through India would be able to see that . So I posted a collection of little images of different Indian types , about 60 of them ( as some say India is the MOST diverse ethnic country in the world ) . His response ; " That picture is incorrect , it has left out many Indians , groups from the north and many groups from the south west ! " Me: " But how could you tell ? " Him ; " Tell what ?" Me: "If they all look the same , how can you tell anyone is missing ? " Him : " Errrrmmmmmm .........

Its the right question to get to the first question's answer , though .

Your first paragraph resembles a little lecture a Buddhist monk once gave me . regarding your 2nd paragraph , I responded to the Monk ; ' What about 'consensual reality ' ? His response was ; " Ah yes, well... there is that ." perhaps the first is, as you said 'an idea' ... mental world , whereas the tree resides in the physical world ? PS you 'slipped one in ' , my up the end of the river comment was about the disco vid I posted not your post

The disco up the end of the river ^

Hi DB . In my experience, what you seek came to me after a long time , dedication and practice . And the amount of BS ego and false claims I had to wade through to get there ! I am sorry , I cant offer a shortcut to you . I am also sorry that the abhorrent maze of dead ends and false spiritual paths ensnared you .Also my hard arse and critical attitude made it tough to crack a nut like me - that was an effort .... however my hard critical attitude did help stop me from getting to deeply involved in falsehoods . I eventually got my 'certainty' and my proofs . " I give unimaginable joys on earth: certainty, not faith, while in life, upon death; peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy; nor do I demand aught in sacrifice. "

The disco at the end of the Universe .

Chop wood, carry water ..... and somehow get my phone recharged

You should have taken Bhagwan 'Sanyas'

The owner you mean ? And what is wrong with a big gay disco ? Take a break from the dance floor and go sit in a quiet corner with a couple of others .... you might find the conversation sometimes interesting ....... if you can 'bear' the gayness . It seems you have trouble 'bearing ' the gayness

That is done by Aboriginals ... not by 'Zen' .

Orca uprising . More killer whales attacking yachts . There has been a spate of it for a while now . This time off the southern coast of Spain . In the past we have seen evidence of humans working in co-operation with killer whales , it goes back ( in Oz anyway ) through pre-history with the indigenous and forward into the early whaling history here . They are very perceptive and intelligent ( see the stories from 'Killers in Eden' ) . They seem to like head butting sailing yachts and damaging the rudder particularly ) " Go for the rudder chaps, its a weak spot ! " https://www.npr.org › 2023 › 06 › 13 › 1181693759 › orcas-killer-whales-boat-attacks Orcas sank a yacht off Spain — the latest in a slew of such 'attacks ... Researchers say orcas are stepping up "attacks" on yachts along Europe's Iberian coast. Orcas Sank 3 Boats in Southern Europe in the Last Year, Scientists Say A small group of orcas is ramming into sailboats in waters off the Iberian Peninsula. Researchers say they do not know what is driving the unusual behavior toward boats.

Nails , crosses, whips, ummmm ...... crown made of thorns .... < thinking > maybe the hammer that drove the nails in ? Not sure . but definitely the cross, scourge. nails and thorns ..... all images on the glass panels of a friend's double front doors , they got them from an old catholic nun's convent .... all items for 'spiritual contemplation ' .

Dont start THAT ..... you know who is going to turn up ( sometimes Zen gets up and walks around . )