Nungali

Are you trying to CHEAT ? THAT is 2 1/2 hours practice there ! Get to it

So the preparation is in the pit , the cow manure is ‘sealed’ within the cow horn and ‘cooking’ underground. “ No man can understand this Art who does not know the Salt and its preparation, which takes place in a convenient spot that is both moist and warm; there the dissolution of its liquid must be accomplished, while its substance remains unimpaired. These are the words of Geber. “Know that the Salt of which Geber speaks has none of the specific properties of salt, and yet is called a Salt, and is a Salt. It is black and fetid, and when chemically prepared, assumes the appearance of blood, and is at length rendered white, pure, and clear. It is a good and precious Salt which, by its own operation, is first impure and then pure. It dissolves and coagulates itself, or, as the Sage says, it locks and unlocks itself. No Salt has this property but the Salt of the Sages. Its chemical development it may undergo in a moist and convenient place, where its moisture (as the Sage says) may be dissolved in the Bath of Mary. He means that it must be warm enough for its water to be distilled, yet not warmer than the excrement of horses, which is not fresh.” It is dug up (at the right astro time) and the horns are emptied and stored (best in a large earthen ware pot with a lid that fits yet allows the contents to ‘breath’ it is kept moist and far away from any ‘ energy polluting/dissipating ’ (or ‘Arihmanic’) substances . Ideally the pot or vessel is surrounded by ‘insulation’ such as dry peat moss or saw dust (again from a pure source) and stored in a wooden box inside a special shed or similar. Or the pot could be buried in the earth of a shed. It needs to be periodically checked and misted with good water so it doesn’t dry out but kept lightly moist so it doesn’t become invaded by mildew or moulds. Like the ‘stone’ in some texts it only need ‘touch’ another (and right – according to the type of alchemy one is using) ) substance to impart its ‘spiritual’ or vibrational energy. This is where water comes in. But it must be ‘special’ water – charged or invigorated. "For this they willingly, through their wickedness, are ignorant or, that through the Word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water, and in the water." "A spirit is within, which by deliberate skill you must separate from the body. Simply disjoin the material part from the vapour. You should then add the cold water of the spring. With this you should unweariedly sprinkle both. You will then have the true Elixir of all this Art." (Here the focus is on spring water but the significance of the rest of this passage is application – see below.) “ A watery form it is at first like any other liquid water, being a thin fluid; yet its nature is not like that of any other water upon earth. There is only one spring in all the world from which this water may be obtained.” (The passage continues on with heavy Christian symbolism. ) First it must be healthy pure water … with that one can make the ‘thin fluid’ . “For, in truth, the spring is difficult to find; but he who knows it may reach it easily, without any expense, labour, or trouble.” "O water, that art lightly esteemed by the vulgar, who do not perceive thy great virtues, in thee lie, as it were, hid the four elements. Thou hast power to dissolve, and conserve, and join nature, such as is possessed by no other thing upon earth. “ “If you would know the properties and appearance of this Stone, know that its appearance is aqueous, and that the water is first changed into a stone, then the stone into water, and the water at length into the Medicine.” There are many more references to water in the texts. Basically the preparation need to be dissolved in the water in a way to make ‘the water’. A small portion of preparation 500 is added to water in a large earthenware pot or cauldron or large open wooden barrel or similar and stirred with a wooden paddle. Stir one way until a deep funnel-shaped vortex is formed, to the bottom of the vessel if possible. Then stir the other way to make a chaotic, air and water mixture, and keep going to a vortex forms in the other direction, then reverse … and so on for one hour. [ Some suspend the stirrer via a rope from a tripod over the vessel. You can also do it with an assistant and swap stirring.] Even someone as sceptical as me couldn’t deny something unusual was going on (and I continued to notice this each time I made a ‘water’. After around 20 minutes the water seems ‘thinner’ i.e. it is easier to stir, the stirrer ‘cuts’ though it easier, the vortex each way (after the chaotic cycle) forms quicker, instead of a ‘normal, splashing, sound when forming the vortex it starts to sound like a deep echoing, tearing sound. The sound of the chaotic cycle with direction changing is different as well. It’s an interesting experiment that anyone can try. Of course, focusing on this for an hour changes your consciousness … but that IMO is an important point ( and why I disagree with mechanical stirrers) . Some sing tones into the water upscale , when stirring one way and downscale when stirring the other way. Some do invocations or prayers (to the elementals or what one will … some Bio-dynamic gardeners are ‘hard-core Steiner followers’ – which is a Christian mystery based system. ) At this stage the preparation has a limited life, without the water going back to the earth it will begin to ‘evaporate’ its potency . “You should also know that in our Art we distinguish two things -- the body and the spirit: the former being constant, or fixed, while the other is volatile. These two must be changed, the one into the other: the body must become water, and the water body. Then again the body becomes water by its own internal operation, and the two, i.e., the dry and the liquid, must once more be joined together in an inseparable union.” Best to use straight away ( in its premixed form the 500 will store long periods if the method above is followed.) The simplest method is to use a small tree branch with lots of little leaves and dip it in the water and walk around sprinkling the soil and ground. The idea is 500 relates to the earth energies, the Moon, winter forces, sunset, descent into the earth, ‘underground’ energies that arise and increase the top part of the plants growth, hence ‘ rampant’ [ the main type of growth based on nitrogen … that is, establishing the plant, its ‘skeleton’ , structure , over-all health, and expansion and feeding from the soil - earth and water . The other type of growth is related to the other preparation 501 ; ‘Sun’, light , sky, summer, dawn, arising from earth to the air ( post dawn mist rising) , the other two elements – air (nourishment from atmosphere) and fire (light and heat) and is based on the other two points of the chemical triangle Phosphorus and Potassium; the plant shifts mode and begins to flower and fruit and disperse seed. ] So it is best to sprinkle 500 around sunset and have the descending energy take the preparation’s energy into the ground. "A spirit is within, which by deliberate skill . You must separate from the body. Simply disjoin the material part from the vapour. You should then add the cold water of the spring. With this you should unweariedly sprinkle both. You will then have the true Elixir of all this Art." Sprinkle both refers here to 500 and 501, we will get to 501 below. “ Thou needest no outward help; nature preserves nature, and is not separated from nature by the operation of nature. The thing is easy to find, the knowledge is easy, altogether familiar, yet it is as a miracle to many.” “ Seal this one substance in an airtight alembic, and treat it according to the precepts of our Art, which we shall set forth further on. Then the sowing in the field can take place.” There are a lot more technical considerations in the application of bio-dynamics which I will pass over. The end result is healthy, pure, energised disease resistant glowing produce. Production may not match super high producing monoculture, chemical fertilizer, farms but …. I don’t know how many store bought peaches or nectarines I took a bit out of and then composted in the last few years. There is debate about its value of course … I am sure Monsanto has all sorts of evidence to show what is best for us. But there is no fooling the people that have seriously tried it. Some BD wineries have won awards … they were some of our best customers , especially for 501. You know how fussy, particular and delicate a wine judges or makers palette is. I don’t understand such things … but I know when I have eaten the best peach I have ever tasted . In comparing the Bio-dynamic process, aims and results to the alchemical texts cited , I feel it just gets more and more obvious; “ I prefer to leave the further elaboration of this subject to the reader, and to confine myself to a more detailed account of its fruits, entrance, and life, of the mode of opening the garden, and catching a glimpse of the glorious roses, of the way in which they multiply, and bear fruit a thousand-fold.” To briefly look at prep 501; it is made from carefully selected quartz crystal rods, crushed to a fine powder or dust ( the ‘amusing’ thing here is if one doesn’t want to end up like some of those alchemists or early chemists,) use a respirator filter! (Yes, I know,,, the package arrives on the organic farm with a warning saying , “Danger! Use a respirator ! “ – some disagreed with me on that, but why should I put others at possible risk, if a decision is to be made that it IS safe for human lungs - it is after it goes in water - the user can decide that ) , It is packed into a cow horn and buried over summer, when dug up it is emptied and placed in a sealed glass container, kept absolutely dry and left where it is exposed to sunlight. It is mixed the same way in water and sprayed into the air after dawn so it lifts up into the atmosphere . ( There are concepts of the earth breathing in and out and different times of day and year.) It shouldn’t go on the ground or on some plants ( I nearly killed some native trees at my place by allowing wind drift to push the spray on to them, a few weeks later they looked like they had been seared IMO this is weird as the liquid is totally filtered { as any grit will destroy the rubber seals in ones sprayer pump} materially, there is only the water in the spray, 501 does not dissolve in any way in water … it is like fine powdery sand). “ It is generated in the earth, then broken, destroyed, and mortified. Out of it arises a vapour which is carried with the wind into the sea, and thence brought back again to the land, where it almost immediately disappears. It must be caught in the air, before it touches the ground; otherwise it evaporates.” “As soon as it is borne from the sea to the land, you must promptly seize it, and enclose it in your phial, then manipulate it in the manner described. You may know its coming by the wind, rain, and thunder, which accompany it.” This passage made me sit up! On my first mixing in water I did it in a flat circular area – basically a circle, it was 500 and late in the day. Rain was coming, perfect, it will ‘rain in’ the prep into the soil and it won’t ‘evaporate’. I was stirring and I had ‘Incantations ‘ by Mile Oldfield playing on the outside sound system  … then there was lightning and thunder! It got so close I seriously began to wonder if it was going to strike the ‘cauldron’. After about 45 mins into the stirring it changed and the storm went away. The trick with 501 is to ‘treat the atmosphere' with a homeopathic dose. “Therefore it should not escape you. Though it is born anew every day, yet it existed from the beginning of the world. But as soon as it falls to the ground, it becomes useless for the purposes of our Art. “ And "From our earth wells forth a fertilizing fountain, whence flow two precious stones. “ In this case I see as 500 & 501; Sun and Moon preps. “ The first "straightway hastens to the rising of the Sun; "the other makes its way to the setting thereof. From them fly forth two Eagles, plunge into the flames, and fall once more to the earth. Both are furnished with feathers, and Sun and Moon, being placed under their wings, are perfected." “Know also that two waters flow forth from this fountain; the one (which is the spirit) towards the rising Sun, and the other, the body, towards the setting Sun. The two are really only one very limpid water,” (both ‘dissolved’ in water). The quantity of this water is so great that it flows over the whole earth, yet leads to nothing but the knowledge of this Art. The same also is misused too often by those who desire it.” http://www.levity.com/alchemy/glory1.html I am sorry if any one thought this would make gold coins or bars … but ask a farmer what is gold and ask anyone what good is gold without food or water. Hopefully , if we manage to change our agricultural strategies soon, we might be able to keep producing food … natural, healthy, vitalised food. Next …. What about all those strange little critters that transform and change and shape-shift in the alchemist’s flasks. Do they have an equivalent in bio-dynamics … yes! In the meantime check out the 7 (planetary) flasks of the Splendor Solis ( 12 – 18 ) http://www.levity.com/alchemy/splensol.html [ also note diagrams 1-4 1 The arms of the working. 2. The alchemist with his preparation. 3. The Knight of the double fountain ( two types of water). 4. The aim of the operation; Sun and Moon conjoined. In Bio-dynamics the aim is to get an optimal healthy balance of the root / ground energies ( root networks are often in the shape of a downward pointing triangle ) to ‘ascend’ into the foliage (often in the overall shape of an upward pointing triangle) and visa versa , that is, conceptually to make both triangles move into each other to make a hexagram. The others are equally interesting including the ‘drowning king’ and 8. What are we to make of 21 ? ] Continued on another day …

Reading them a story DEFFINATLY works .... hmmm, maybe I have a father thing going on here ? Write them a story ... that works very well ... my "The Egyptian' ( 'love' story) curls their toes ...( so I am told) they swoooon over it !

Ooops - cross post To Chegg; I don't think that is a hypocrite . its fairly normal ... I just don't think its being realistic ... we are one way , yet we adopt a 'moral system' of what 'should ' or 'should not' be in our moods , feelings and behaviours. Why don't I give more of my money to poor starving children overseas ? Try that question out ... then change the my to yours and ask someone else. Answers will range from an indignant look, abuse, bullshit justification, all the way through to an uncaring arsehole comment. My answer is because I am a rich westerner and I don't care enough about them. And I am not even going to attempt to sugar coat it with what I HAVE done for such people, or quote a parable about fish and fishing or .... Actions speak louder than words .... and IMO drown out excuses. I might even quote 'Jesus' here ....

Some comments above about dating .... I am not even sure what it is .... I don't 'go out' or socialise ... so .... I would take them to the 'Nymph Pool' or invite hem around to my cabin for a home cooked Burmese meal (or those little Indonesian fish cakes wrapped in a banana leaf ... or some tamales ) ... I even minded their 3 (under 4 year old) boys while they went out on a date with someone else ... actually that worked and led to a 2 1/2 year relationship ... except I still used to mind the kids when she went on a date with someone else .... I am not very good at this am I ?

Hey! Where are the heavenly blessings??? I told you not to give them to me ... I didn't say withdraw them from everyone !

I have two copies (one heavily annoted and one a loaner) and read it 3 times ... but you know that don't you ... hmmm clever ... appreciate the book and would realise 'Hey, this woman has her finger on my pulse and ;gets' me." Yet I wouldn't be running home to read it . Women can be clever when it comes to getting what they want

Seriously it might work with me ... I was SOOO impressed with myself , and felt sooo good after I bought that thick book ALL OF IT on the topic of Old Kingdom Egypt ... I was waltzing ... now if a woman had just bought that for me spontaneously !!! It would have to be the right book though . But here is the hitch ... I would want to rush home and start reading it . And unlike flowers it wouldn't wilt in 3 days , so I would off scope for a while ... THEN I know what happens .....

Look! Just send me a copy of 'Mercurius: The Marriage of Heaven and Earth' by Patrick Harpur and I will post back here how I felt about it after I get it.

Chegg ... what are you doing ? You have asked the equivalent question to; " When you robbed the bank did you escape by car or not? " Whatever your question or intent is , it wont be resolved like this. In another thread you posted an assumption about how some of us might deal magically with a request to find a husband, and your assumptions of what might constitute magic was ... well ... You seemed to agree and said you would get back with a more clear request on what your question (or issue ? ) was .. ... ? Is this is it ? I cant help feel that, although you seem a pretty open-minded type of person, there is something niggling at the base of your pyramid about magic and ethics ? ? ?

1 year might be worth more than 8 ... especially if she has 'flamenco toning' "Here for a good time - not a long time."

Oh def. I had this big party years back at my place Mt Olympus ... come as your fav god or goddess ... prob the BEST party we ever did . I came as Ares and this little filly I had my eyes on for a few years ( a Spanish dance teacher ... man, what a posture she had ! so strong and arrogant ! ( hint girls ... yes confidant posture ! ) came as Aphrodite. I go up to her, "we are in god roles the whole night and in mytology you had an affair WITH ME!" her "ya gotta do better than that," Me; 'Okay ... <ahem> “Who is this maiden robed for a bride, White shoulders and bright brows adorable, The flaming locks that clothe her, and abide, As God were bathing in the fire of Hell? They change, they grow, they shake As sunlight on the lake: They hiss, they glisten on her bosom bare. O maiden, maiden queen! The lightning flows between Thy mounting breasts, too magically fair. Draw me, O draw me to a dreaming death! Send out thine opiate breath, And lull me to the everlasting sleep, That, closing from the kisses of disdain To ecstasy of pain, I may sob out my life into their dangerous deep. Who cometh from the mountain as a tower Stalward and set against the fiery foes? Who, breathing as a jasmine-laden bower? Who, crowned and lissome as a living rose? Sharp thorns in thee are set; In me, in me beget The dolorous despair of this desire. Thy body sways and swings Above the tide of things,Laps me as ocean, wraps me round as fire! Ye elemental sorceries of song, Surge, strenuous and strong, Seeking dead dreams, the secret of the shrine; so that she drain my life and being up As from a golden cup, To mingle in her blood, death's kiss incarnadine. Who cometh from the ocean as a flower? Who blossometh above the barren sea, Thy lotus set beneath thee for a bower, Thine eyes awakened, lightened, fallen on me? O Goddess, queen and wife! O Lady of my life! Who set thy stature as a wood to wave? Whose love begat thy limbs? Whose wave-washed body swims That nurtured thee, and found herself a grave? But thou, O thou, hast risen from the deep! All mortals mourn and weep To see thee, seeing that all love must die Besides thy beauty, see thee and despair! Deadly as thou art fair, I cry for all mankind--they are slain, even as I! “ Result ? Oh yeah! Actually at the end of the poem she looked at me dumbstruck and said ' “That did it! “ We ‘did it’ for months. . . mwa-ha-ha!

But but but but ... how ya going to get em drunk on a book ! sheesh!

Just rub some soft crystalised amber on your ... umm , well my ... you know, and when the smells combine ... they can detect it for miles !

And that is SUCH FUN ! Just don't give attention and watch how far they will go to get it !

picture of a 'real demon' http://www.wakaleo.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Obdurodon-and-Platypus-skulls.jpg ( It's the underside of a platypus skull .)

It was a common motif with the Egyptians and wasn't an angel, it was Isis. http://www.museumstorecompany.com/images/products/16725.jpg Like most of esoteric Judaism (as they had non or even a Jewish nation back then) they lifted stuff from Egypt and Mesopotamia ( an 'arc' with the poles to carry and the rings to put them through and the 'biblical' details is really no more than an Egyptian portable shrine, many of the gods had them http://www.civilisation.org.uk/egypt/tutankhamun/chest%20with%20dog.jpg Remember that the Egyptian 'Jews' fell out with the locals due to their insistence on making an 'improper sacrifice' ... in Egypt, their system was just a variation on common themes and did not take the later 'ownership' it achieved until after they left Egypt and came back from the Babylonian diaspora.

Well ... it just goes to show you that NO pays attention ... there IS NO moderator. Remember when you said something nice to Pieman (I think it was) in a thread where you were 'supposed to be nasty' and you wondered if you were OT - well I reported that thread for being OT ... (I thought you might get it in the office?) Obviously there is one of those 'In' trays (with no bottom and it sits over a wastepaper bin ) And I got ignored … Hruumph!

Okay, I did the exorcism, tried again, white screen but managed to hit 'full screen' button and I came up whole white screen then ... I saw it . Himmm ... you think by lappie is possessed ?

Music and a blank white screen - that's all I got .

OH thank you sooo much Kickarse ... was that my Chrissy present (I guess you found mine and this is you getting even) ? I wanted to save those little kids from that horrible woman ... at least the dad (?) tried to shield one and gave her a cuddle. Now ... if I could, I would take them down the river with a nice selection of fruit and nuts and some little hand nets and we could go tadpole hunting and look at and talk about nature and have a picnic. Then get their dad to take them some where nice and distract everyone .... okay ? <Nungali sneaks back to that house with an electric cattle prod ... and forces mad woman on to running machine, puts picture of jeezsus in front of her ... attaches cattle prod to a red 3 pronged pitch fork, starts jabbing her fat abusive arse with fork while turning on running machine to high speed.> "I don't want no stars!" ...

Anyway, to get back to the PIE peoples Homeland and a possible root source for a whole range of concepts including ‘Paradise’ paradise lost … and a ‘return to Eden’ ( or ‘new Jerusalem’) , instead of writing and posting link pictures, just go to this site’s section on it. Well written, great pics maps, targeting the location of ‘Shamballa’ of many traditions . compares old Buddhist schematic maps of the place ( check that against a modern map of the Pamirs region in Tajikistan http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/maps/pamir.htm ) etc; academic and well referenced ; http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/aryans/location.htm As I said previously … this is one view. For variant views a good starting point might be ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urheimat

When the companions of the Prophet, on invading Persia, came in contact with the Zoroastrian people and learned these teachings, they at once came to the conclusion that Zoroaster was really a Divinely inspired prophet. Thus they accorded the same treatment to the Zoroastrian people which they did to other "People of the Book." Though the name of Zoroaster is not mentioned in the Qur'an, still he was regarded as one of those prophets whose names have not been mentioned in the Qur'an, for there is a verse in the Qur'an: "And We did send apostles before thee: there are some of them that We have mentioned to thee and there are others whom We have not mentioned to Thee." (40 : 78). Accordingly the Muslims treated the founder of Zoroastrianism as a true prophet and believed in his religion as they did in other inspired creeds, and thus according to the prophecy, protected the Zoroastrian religion. Islamic Ahmadiyya view: Ahmadi Muslims view Zoroaster as Prophet of God and describes such expressions to be a concept which is similar to the concepts in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The Zoroastrian Achaemenid Empire at its greatest extent was the largest ancient empire in recorded history at 8.0 million km2 (480 BCE). Almost nothing is known of the status of Zoroastrianism under the Seleucids and Parthians, who ruled over Persia following Alexander the Great's invasion in 330 BCE. According to later Zoroastrian legend many sacred texts were lost when Alexander's troops invaded Persepolis and subsequently destroyed the royal library there. According to one archaeological examination, the ruins of the palace of Xerxes bear traces of having been burned. Whether a vast collection of (semi-)religious texts "written on parchment in gold ink", as suggested by the Denkard, actually existed remains a matter of speculation. Late antiquity When the Sassanid dynasty came into power in 228 CE, they aggressively promoted the Zurvanite form of Zoroastrianism and, in some cases, persecuted Christians. When the Sassanids captured territory, they often built fire temples there to promote their religion. After Constantine, the Sassanids were suspicious of Christians, not least because of their perceived ties to the Christian Roman Empire Middle Ages In the 7th century the Sassanid Empire was overthrown by the Arabs. Because of their sheer numbers, the conquered Zoroastrians had to be treated as dhimmis which made them eligible for protection. Thus, in the main, once the conquest was over and "local terms were agreed on", the Arab governors protected the local populations in exchange for tribute. Thus, though subject to a new leadership and harassed, once the horrors of conquest were over, the Zoroastrians were able to continue in their former ways. There was, however, a slow but steady social and economic pressure to convert. The nobility and city-dwellers were the first to convert, with Islam more slowly being accepted among the peasantry and landed gentry. Power and worldly-advantage now lay with followers of Islam, and although the official policy was one of aloof contempt, there were individual Muslims eager to proselytize and ready to use all sorts of means to do so. With Iranian support, the Abbasids overthrew the Umayyads in 750, and Muslim Iranians received marked favour in the new government, both in Iran and at the capital in Baghdad. The type of Islam the Abbasids propagated throughout Iran became in turn ever more "Zoroastrianized", making it easier for Iranians to embrace Islam. The 9th century was the last in which Zoroastrians had the means to engage in creative work on a great scale, and the 9th century has come to define the great number of Zoroastrian texts that were composed or re-written during the 8th to 10th centuries. All of these works are in the Middle Persian dialect of that period (free of Arabic words), and written in the difficult Pahlavi script. Many of these texts are responses to the tribulations of the time, and all of them include exhortations to stand fast in their religious beliefs. Under Abbasid rule, Muslim Iranians (who by then were in the majority) increasingly found ways to taunt Zoroastrians, and distressing them became a popular sport. For example, in the 9th century, a deeply venerated cypress tree in Khorasan (which Parthian-era legend supposed had been planted by Zoroaster himself) was felled for the construction of a palace in Baghdad, 2,000 miles (3,200 km) away. In the 10th century, on the day that a Tower of Silence had been completed at much trouble and expense, a Muslim official contrived to get up onto it, and to call the adhan (the Muslim call to prayer) from its walls. This was made a pretext to annex the building. Another popular means to distress Zoroastrians was to maltreat dogs, as these animals are sacred in Zoroastrianism. Such baiting, which was to continue down the centuries, was indulged in by all; not only by high officials, but by the general uneducated population as well. [it still exists; my Iranian friend had two dogs which he loved. His friends and family didn’t like it . “Why do you do that? Dog is Haram! “ Which is weird as they are not Muslim . I explained to him the earlier appreciation of Dog before Muslim invasion ( one of the Zoroastrian ‘angel’s is accompanied by a dog and they see Dog as the friend of mankind). ] Despite these economic and social incentives to convert, Zoroastrianism remained strong in some regions, particularly in those furthest away from the Caliphate capital at Baghdad. In Bukhara (in present-day Uzbekistan), resistance to Islam required the 9th century Arab commander Qutaiba to convert his province four times. The first three times the citizens reverted to their old religion. Finally, the governor made their religion "difficult for them in every way", turned the local fire temple into a mosque, and encouraged the local population to attend Friday prayers by paying each attendee two dirhams. The cities where Arab governors resided were particularly vulnerable to such pressures, and in these cases the Zoroastrians were left with no choice but to either conform or migrate to regions that had a more amicable administration. Among these migrations were those to cities in (or on the margins of) the great salt deserts, in particular to Yazd and Kerman, which remain centres of Iranian Zoroastrianism to this day. Crucial to the present-day survival of Zoroastrianism was a migration to Gujarat, in western India. The descendants of that group are today known as the Parsisas, as the Gujaratis, from long tradition, called anyone from Iran — who today represent the larger of the two groups of Zoroastrians. Yazd: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Yazd&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=TP29Uo_SDojxoATtkoHgBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1059&bih=482 - because it is so beautiful

I have to admit I was sceptical when I approached it ... I had heard that it seems to achieve results for the practitioner quiet well, even at first. So I jumped in .... BING! Yep ... results ! Also I got some results with the 'Aethyrs' ... but more so working with the squares ... .... I know , I know .... mine were even adapted further than the G.D. I have done little with the original stuff.

Isn't that her in the little photo next to her posts ?