Nungali

or after ... if you have dodgy curry

Ha! Caught you before you deleted it . Try the first 5 chapters ..... its worth it . I would not do it justice . Or dont .... and miss out on essential understanding .

One can clearly say that the expression of spirituality in England and Java is different . It is when one says that difference means the other type isnt real or doesnt exist or is not valid ... that problems start .

I'm sorry that is just plain wrong and ill informed and a bit prejudiced . For one thing you speak of modern UK and then mention some post Victorians ... how far does your modern go back . As far as the east coming into influence from them look at things like 'The Grand Tour' ... your observation is not 'exactly' why it happened at all . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour and understand that even if you do not agree or even dislike western spirituality ( and by the way , I am not Christian ) one cannot simply say it didnt exist in 'England' .

Indeed ! After a lifetime of studying anthropology ... its the cultural clothing wherein the difference lies . I had the opportunity to compare even highly secret initiation systems from the west with the ancient Australian Aboriginal , guess what ?

And when the Javanese check in you can tell they 'believe in spirits' more' ?

I have been through a lot of this and people are really mixed up about it . They confuse 'race' , ethnicity and nationality . How many 'English' ( whatever that means nowadays ? ) believe in supernatural spirits , energy , etc . ? That depends if they are in the Church of England , Catholics or even English Buddhists !

One dual of reality classification is 'real' as Coby outlined and 'ideal' which you just out lined. Ideal things are realities that are not 'material' . The rest is 'misfunction' .... according to the dualism that developed out of the world of scientific observation . Before that it was a three fold ' reality '. Something happened along the way ...... science . Its all in here , a great read and rather essential ; https://archive.org/details/originsofmoderns007291mbp/page/n9/mode/2up?view=theater

The village is just beyond these bushes ..... oh yeah , party time ..... guest of honor ! ...... I'll just sneak a peak through the bushes first to see how things are going .... I wonder what's for dinner ?

yeah thats all 'cool' but there are no 'races' , just one . But within that I acknowledge the variety and differences you point out . And one is better served to not think difference is based on color . Dont mistake me as being ruled by a desire to be politically correct - I am far from that ! We have a thing here that the indigenous refer to as 'coconuts' - they say 'brown on the outside , white on the inside ' . And there is a huge amount of white people that are accepted as Aboriginals ... by the Aboriginals - even the 'primitive Australian Aboriginal ' states Aboriginality is not a question of color . Its genetic and cultural . For example as a child I was a 'black sheep' , strange weird and different to my family , didnt fit in and they and I could not comprehend it . But as soon as I went and stayed in an Aboriginal 'society ' ( and I dont mean a highly modernized one ... a more traditional approach in a permanent 'bush camp ' ) everything made sense and people understood me and related to me .

No. I had to look it up to see what it is - if AI is accurate on this ? AI Overview The Diamond Approach is a comprehensive spiritual path created by A.H. Almaas, focusing on psychological exploration and meditation to uncover Essential Aspects of being. ( I certainly use psychological exploration and meditation to uncover essential aspects of being . ) The Diamond Logos teachings, also known as Diamond Logos Teachings (DLT), are a branch of the Diamond Approach founded by Faisal Muqaddam, which bridges therapy and meditation to express spiritual truth through embodied experience and inspired speech. Diamond Approach Founder: A.H. Almaas Focus: A "spiritually informed psychology or a psychologically grounded spirituality". Key Concepts: Explores the "Essential Aspects" of one's true nature, which are differentiated qualities of the unmanifest spirit that appear in conscious experience. ( This is a key part in what I do - 'explore essential aspects of on'e true nature ' , a few ways ; studying human nature { individual and collective } life long study of anthropology starting over 40 years back at Sydney University . That focused mainly on cultural anthropology . Also a life time of studying and practicing in hermetics { whose maxim is 'Man, know thyself'} , so similar again . Personally I have always been a 'psychonaut ' . I have also done some study on psychology , a few different types including exopsychology and sociology . ) Practice: Involves individual sessions, peer group work, partner inquiry, and teachers trained by the Ridhwan Foundation. Diamond Logos Teachings (DLT) Founder: Faisal Muqaddam, who branched off from the original Diamond Approach. Focus: Aims to be a bridge between therapy and meditation, linking the personality to the Absolute. ( I think this is rather essential . One of the better writers and teachers in the western tradition was Israel Regardie trained and initiated in the western tradition and also psychology and a psychiatrist . - I think after reading some of the stories in this thread we can see the need for the dual balance in these two subjects . ) Key Concepts: Embodies spiritual truth and expresses it through the "cosmic speech" or "logos-speaking," where essential truth fills the presence and words of the speaker. ( At times , but I am obviously not always in that state . My 'karma' as it were is more of 'the story teller ' and works better on the oral level . A lot of the time I dont bother .... 'what use has a pig for pearls ? ' However in the past I had a couple of good students and that would encourage the faculty { I am not going to say it encouraged me ... it encouraged that 'faculty ' } .... they would say I had a 'way of putting things ' that helped them understand , sometimes noted were taken by them ... which surprised me . However I am not one to claim any sort of verbalization that is 'essential truth ' ) Practice: Combines individual sessions, peer groups, and partner inquiry, with the emphasis on the embodied experience of truth. ( Hmmmm .... could be AI speak ? ' embodied experience of truth ' ? Its probably more productive to read my writings on 'True Will' / 'Khvarenah ' . )

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I met some locals ... very friendly , they have invited me to a a party at their village tonight ..... I am going to be the guest of honor !

Ahhhh ... the Moon ! Eclipsed Moon in Pisces coming up ..

I would hope that if one is doing such work it is because they want to do it , it is an expression of their True Will and / or 'service ' ie. 'enjoyable ' .... even joy generating . I also hope that things work out naturally including 'exchanges' , one guy that came for training, after a while noticed my roof gutters full with leaves so he got up there and cleaned them all out . Stuff like that .

... and that was my last packet of biscuits Coby . I hope you appreciate it . Now I have to go ashore to get food supplies . ... this Congo place looks jungley .

Hmmm ... off shore Congo is just like off shore Angola

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..... and there you have it ^ Charging money corrupts . I have never done it for any magical or spiritual services or even for martial arts instruction . The plain and simple matter is ... these guys fool the spiritually gullible when they are vulnerable ... regardless of how they come across, market themselves , get praise , etc . Those that do not charge money have no reason to fake, lie to you , etc . rii

That ^ is in the Hawsbury River , I grew up on sandstone - the 'Hawksbury Basin' it is called as a geological area , I was at the southern extent ; waterways, bushland and sandstone cliffs, rock shelves , caves , ledges , the flora .... The subtropical rainforest is nice ( where I am now ) but its a bit 'muddy' . I often long to get back in that environment .

Siwa Oasis - Egypt .

I dont know what means . If its my route no ... it is very clear ; I went too far east and hit NZ, then south then chucked a right and skirted Antarctica , rounded SW Oz, went NE via Cocos / Keerling Is ..... SW , rounded the Cape , up the west coast of Africa , now approaching Congo . You guys bad on geography aren't ya ?