Nungali

How do I open the first link in OP ... I went to the second and books there have is a tab for a preview and one for chapters but the first book only appears to open in preview ?? (yeah, I am lotech)

Its a funny reality Harpur lists a set of strange occurances, different places, different people, he doesn't say, just they are different. When we read them they sound like a typical UFO encounter ... no it was a group of tribal people and they say it was a communication from their ancestors. Another scene ... oh that HAS to be about 60 years ago and sound like an Irish folk tale about the little people .... no its a UFO encounter ... and so on. Harpur has defined the experiences and explained them with his theory of Daimonic Reality ... note; not demonic reality! (I had to go back and correct that ??? hmmm ... spellcheck perhaps ?) He also gives an interesting take on the child services abduction cases ; people come around and say there is a report of child abuse and they are taking the children ... the parents nearly comply but don't do it, after they are gone they 'wake up' and report what happened ... they were in a near hypnotic state and nearly handed the kids over, no they didn't even ask to see ID. what did they look like? They cant remember. Then there is another case ... and another. O! there is aging out there, police and community are on alert ... then more and more reports 250 in one week ... obviously police realise its too many ... sometimes there are witnesses other times the report seems false ,,, are people imagining it now ... but by now some people have started doing it themselves; going to a house and saying I am from child protection and your child is in danger and I have to take them (some got caught, they couldn't really explain why they did it. That is an 'outbreak' of Daimonic reality. You might see a pixie, I might be with you and see it too (or not) maybe you can even catch it and put it in a cage ... will it be there in the morning ? No. will the cage be broken? No. Its all about the world of the lost soul as well (as soul was divorced from spirit in our culture long ago) A shaman deals in Daimonic Reality ... they can retrieve lost souls. Its like the dream world or the dreamtime ... its when the subjective unconscious forces break out into the objective world or the objective collective unconscious or the Anima Mundi effecting the physical world ... burns on UFO 'victims' or for the religious; stigmata. It is the otherword between the 'spiritual' world of the religionist and the physical world of the materialist that partakes of and effects both. It can be here and there at the same time and multiply and invert itself in reoccurring themes ( as quantum physics is discovering) ... and of course it is the world of myth ... where themes invert and transpose and play out the same scenarios until we MUST pay attention to soul. When it is suppressed further it mutates and can demand attention in 'monstrous' froms. yes it goes on and on ... like I do. But do check him out 'The Philosoper's Secret Fire - A history of the Imagination.' ' Daimonic Reality - A Field Guide to the Other World.' Mercurius - The Marriage of Heaven and Earth.' I am sure that ' the HGA' and 'HGA experience' are intimately connected with this world ... it might even be a form of ourselves that resides in that world concurrent with our existence in this one. Well I am not that bad ... as 'some' seem to be trying to make out Batman ? Another concept straight out of daimonic reality ! That's why he is so popular ... resonates.

Aaron ... read the last two posts, okay. If you think I need moderation the same as Isimisiz Biri then seriously there IS something wrong here. In my country the innuendo he implies about Aboriginals is not on ! If I can be called satanic (and all that implies nowadays in pop culture) and the rest of what he says above and then look at my post and you think I need moderation the same as this guy .... considering his record all over these boards ... well ..... The only reason I respond to him in the way I do is because of his attitude and he gets away with it here ... then when someone calls him on it .... Oh stop fighting you two ... really ! .... really ????

Thanks for the links, I will read them and get back to you. At this stage I am seeing Theurgy and Magick as the techniques one can discover and develop oneself to 're-unite' - more like the pattern behind the form and religion as following someone else's discoveries - more like a form of the pattern. Either path or parts of them might be valid for certain types of people.

Not a fan of some concepts of Atlantis but I think a generic prehistoric civilisation is targeted in ancient history and looking at all the evidence it seems that Santorini is the most likely candidate. I agree. My aboriginal elder and guardian friend is full of such knowledge. His mother didn't even know what a Koala was when she first saw one - that's one generation back. It would be impossible to learn what he has learned in his short life time. he was taught by the earth ... and this gives me hope ... as if we loose knowledge we can find it again. Patrick Harpur sums it up wonderfully in the last paragraph of his book 'Daimonic Reality' (at the end of an absolutely brilliant Epilogue) ; " However, no matter how beleaguered the tradition becomes, it can never die out because daimonic reality needs no tradition to stay alive. It is always, and constantly, alive and able to re-ignite and renew itself in every generation, quiet apart from any tradtition, through spontaneous apparitions, visions and otherworld journeys." I think that originally all those traditions came about by a similar approach (if you mean a synthesis)..

Okay ... I will admit then that this is not the place to discuss such issues ... I tried .... I tried to stay on topic, focused, polite, even define what the topic is ... a little kickstart ... a question on perceived topic ... but no ... just side issues and then the focus and energy goes to feeding that ... whatever ... It seems there is a certain imbedded dynamic present. I will try somewhere else.

Oh ??? Is your heart softening towards me? Regardless ; feeling pity for Nungali = 6 off topic points. You should make another thread; "I feel Pity for Nungali." and I will post about that there ... but not here.

Where is the NCP in the Dendra Zodiac? The Thigh is off-pole (and maybe a motive force or 'cog' which turns the whole wheel ). Hippo Goddess, being pregnant, is the navel ? The Pole relates to the Divine King ... is it Anpu there in the middle (who almost appears to come out of her navel) ?

Ah yes .... I somehow missed the first 2 posts but noticed on the 3rd bump but I am here now Where my responses somehow wrong ? Or is one keen response not enough (that's okay, I can understand that). Actually, when I first came here I saw the Hermetic forum and if not for that I probably would have passed this site over. Then when I checked in I was all 'Huh? Is this Christian Hermetics? What's with the Christian focus in this Hermetic Forum ?' What IS with the Christian Focus in this Hermetic Forum anyway ? No ... no ... don't start that here, I want to talk about Hermetics

5 to you now. Have you noticed that when you stay on topic I just read your threads and watch the links .

And I am still hanging in my suspenders .http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/First_Suspenders.png.

This thread is supposed to be about Lone Wolf and Cub and not Nungali's BS FOUR derail points to Isimsiz Biri

Okay, well ... if you are not sure yourself I will have a go then ; to draw attention to the Constellation of the Thigh ... and maybe generate curiosity about why it is associated with the 'left-hand' path? Or that is too broad and you want to focus specifically as defined in the OP as opposed to the thread title ? about the books you mentioned and your offer to ' discuss "How to", ' (access?) the modern " Setian/Typhonian current (that) is explored deeper than in most books" and not a general exploration of, "Being all light will leave you without half the puzzle." I am interested in the other side from a wide range of sources , but not the 'Setian / Typhonian current' ... unless you, or these books have come up with some new and interesting takes on it. So .... is there a link between all this and the Constellation of the Thigh or are you going to leave us hanging in suspenders

I read the background material .... I am not venturing into the 'forbidden zone' (as requested by OP) , I have tried to work out the subject matter and posed a starting point and ....... wot happened I am beginning to wonder why this thread was put up in the first place ???

I stayed in an 'earth house' .... atrocious! No flow through of 'energy', air or breezes ... I am used to LOTS of windows in all walls around me when inside. However I find these incredibly attractive https://www.google.com.au/search?q=cave+houses&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LbqfUpDhOc_zoATE6oDIDg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1220&bih=497

Recorded history is only PART of the story. Then people make up theories to try to explain the PART of the story or with PARTIAL evidence. I doubt that few people see this as the whole story. Some people see it as the whole story , then reject it (even though it isn't supposed to be the whole story in the first place) and then see a historical conspiracy. But I suppose .... after watching some of the pop 'history' shows ..... who can blame them? Human (some of us) love to think we know everything .... in the late 19thC. scientists declared there was nothing left to discover

Derail 3. this thread is about Lone Wolf and Cub and not Dr Isimsiz Biri's free medical advice clinic. THREE derail points to Isimsiz Biri.

Can you hear that droning noise outside the window now ? Drrrroooooone .... clunk! This could also be threat to international security ; what if 'terrorists' get control of all the drones and get them to hover over one point on the Earth and blow the planet out of orbit into the Sun ?

‘The Guardian’ seems like a good reference ? Lets look it up; http://www.theguardian.com/film/2011/sep/29/mayan-documentary-alien-mexico “Sundance winner Juan Carlos Rulfo's Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond is currently in production for release next year to coincide with the end of the Mayan calendar … “Producer Raul Julia-Levy said the documentary-makers were working in cooperation with the Mexican government for what he said was "the good of mankind". He said the order to collaborate had come directly from the country's president, Álvaro Colom Caballeros …. “Caballeros himself was conspicuous by his absence from the statement released by Julia-Levy. “So far, the minister of tourism for the Mexican state of Campeche, Luis Augusto García Rosado, appears to be the highest-ranking government official to go on record confirming the discovery of extraterrestrial life, (my emphasis ) “In a statement, Rosado spoke of contact "between the Mayans and extraterrestrials, supported by translations of certain codices, which the government has kept secure in underground vaults for some time". In a telephone conversation with the Wrap, he also spoke of "landing pads in the jungle that are 3,000 years old". “Guatemala, like Mexico, home to the ancient-yet-advanced Mayan civilisation … has also kept certain provocative archeological discoveries classified, and now believes that it is time to bring forth this information in the new documentary," Guatemala's minister of tourism, Guillermo Novielli Quezada, said in a statement. Also note that all sources and references all cross link to the same article and info = self referential. {which basically means that if I say it is true I can back it up by linking to .http://thetaobums.com/topic/32822-mexican-government-releases-proof-of-ets-and-ancient-space-travel/ post # 3. } Those pictures remind me off those ‘ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics’ that had images of modern army tanks and things in them … whatever became of them ? AS much as it may disappoint some … it is not entirely impossible that the ‘evidence’ was constructed recently . And for anyone who is observant … the idea of ministers of tourism being the only government support and verification perhaps suggests something – hmmmmmmmmmm ??? Of course, many of us don’t trust ‘the government’ …. Unless its an issue like this … then all of a sudden they seem to have a validity ??? Curious ! ..

What I am really worried about is the Readers Digest drones delivering giant fake cheques, thick gold covered cardboard winner certificates and offers of free coaching ( you will need it when you win all this money - peoples lives change radically when this happens you know ... we are only hear to help). Not only will I not be able I get out the door but what happens when the Readers Digest drone and the Amazon drone turn up at the same time competing for business ... taking the point that they will both be armed ... Of course if one can have a delivery in 10 minutes that means they will need one drone for each delivery ... that's a lot of drones ! Cost; book = $ 39.95 + delivery charge $289.99.

What makes you think they wont be armed and be able to shoot back?

If you do the secret locater chip in the cargo will send out an alert and multiple amazon policer drones will arrive ... make sure you have a tennis racket handy.

But it wasn't me that bought up the subject of Zatoichi But it wasn't me that asked the question about Zatoichi;s sword technique Agreed, this thread is not about my skilful use of weapons. For the rest of this thread I will not talk about my superior weapons skills. Are you saying I derail to infinity ? Derail 1. This thread is about Lone wolf and cub not nafs. 1 Derail point to Isimzis Biri. Derail 2. This thread is about Lone wolf and cub not akido. 2 Derail points to Isimzis Biri. You have 2 derail points and I only have 1 (as I conceded that I should not have mentioned my weapons skills .... oh shit! I said I wasn't going to mention that again didn't I .... ooops.)

Now there is a place to get off grid! When I was in New Zealand I saw a few small geothermal powered hot water and cooking systems. some houses even had localised private ones, just for that house . one had a boiling mud pit as a garden feature in the front lawn !

Ahh ... the fire bath ... yes. Imagine: Its near some bamboo, nice plants and rainforest stuff around and in a grove of big twisted turpentine trees . The bath is steaming (and it cooks you, you cant get an experience like that with other baths as none keep supplying heat from the bottom, most gradually cool after you get in them.) Your lying back, looking through up the trees and the rising steam to the stars. Ahhhhh! I had a 'young friend' staying for a while (at her insistence) who loved the bath. her mum came to visit (who was about my age ) she looks out the window where the bath is in full view; "I am not sure if my daughters privacy would be protected out there." - my response ; "Oh no, it isn't ...you should see the photos of it I posted on the internet." Next day mum is out floating in the bath ... totally blissed out. Nungali calls out window; "When you are finished there is a warm fire going in here and a pot of tea made." - a convert ! Now she realises I am not bad after all ! Note ; Mums bath pics are posted at ....... ... Oh yeah, I just remembered: when on the Great Escarpment walk, the back up logistics truck guys found an old bath in the middle of nowhere, so we scored it, at each base camp it was set up, so when walkers came to camp in the middle of the bush after a section treck there was a camp set up with fire and dinner and a hot bath !