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and after that main event of 'conversion' ( meaning after I accepted the occurrences for what I first thought it was and what it claimed to be ) and gave it more credence , it kept delivering great stuff . Even after that , sometimes I have doubted the veracity of the advice ... but in the long run 'damn it !' 'they ' right ... time and time again . yep, my experience , and even others that have it too, I doubt its the same for them , we all different . For example I put a lot of it down to my extreme and wide natured natal Neptune influence and (thankfully) its moderation to a fairly well balanced and placed Mercury - I say 'fairly' well balanced as it seems to list a little to the critical doubting side , which has been to my detriment and near detriment at times .
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Geeze mate ! Are you sure you got that 'the right way around' ?
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But that is because you both choose to believe there is no afterlife . He didnt choose what the others taught , he denied life after death , regardless of what he 'could have chosen' . ... I dont get your point of significance there ... you could also have chosen a modern perspective of belief in afterlife yourself ... but you didnt (apparently ) ... or maybe I am just detecting your 'uncertainty' ? Dont worry , my certainty should not interfere with your uncertainty .... I am not trying to proselytize . I mean , I have certainty .... but I am not denying I could be wrong . As I said earlier , even if this is it and nothing after death , I still rejoice and appreciate the experience of being alive .... once ... how special !
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It was neither NDE nor divination . So I cant answer your question . If it had been a 'divination' and someone claimed something I would not trust it at all, either , nor did I trust my experience . I would test it ... just the same way one would test any other communication physical or magical .
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from the perspective of an historian ( Maddie ? ) though , especially an anthropological historian , we should look at the whole 'fan' of opened out human experience and viewpoint on such things .... the modern one, based on this modern paradigm is a tiny sliver of our collective 'understanding' . . . of course that gives 'us' ultimate validity .... because its us . I recommend Patrick Harpur https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/664216.The_Philosophers_Secret_Fire https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/920181.Daimonic_Reality
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" Except ...... I KNOW he is a lizard man !!!!!! " ^ Me
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Good . In studying Comparative Religion ( at a secular university ) the subject was not approached until we did a series of lectures on belief and the nature of belief ... many non secular students abandoned the course during this stage ... they WOULD NOT tolerate any difference in understanding between belief and knowledge .. I remember years back now some guy asked us what we believed about creation , I said I believed that two giant snakes did it , an earth and a 'space' snake did it ( The Wallenganda and Ungud 'myth' ) . he was outraged, insulting and abusive ... " How can you believe that ! ? .... abuse abuse ... " I answered ' because its a BELIEF ." he didnt get it and kept up until a Mod caned him . If he asked me how I thought about it , he would have got a different answer . We can actually use our beliefs instead of them using us beliefs and knowledge ... they are funny things and many have them confused ; just the other day, my friend, who is pretty tuned in and turned on said " So and so did ..... " Me; " And why do you believe that ? " Her ' " I KNOW it ..... as X told me so ." Me ; " Nah ! You believe so and so did it , but all you know is that x told you so and so did it . "
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I think, to understand this better , we need to realise what Epicurus thought he afterlife was like . if peeps back then thought the afterlife was a gloomy boring place where you sat around in the dark then yes, awareness after death may not be desirable . " The after-life, for the ancient Greeks, consisted of a grey and dreary world in the time of Homer (8th century BCE) and, most famously, we have the scene from Homer's Odyssey in which Odysseus meets the spirit of the great warrior Achilles in the nether-world where Achilles tells him he would rather be a landless slave on earth than a king in the underworld. " https://www.worldhistory.org/article/29/the-after-life-in-ancient-greece/
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Well, I would not call it an 'email' .... but I have got them ! And I am a very critical analytical doubting rationalist ... of course, they where all explainable and related to projections from my own mind . So I kept telling myself . Then they got more unexplainable and old rationalist Nungali was having a bit of a battle explaining it all away ... but then I realized the explanations I was HAVING to come up with to avoid the obvious conclusion where becoming more fantastical than just believing I was getting communications from certain people that had passed on . But that didnt stop me fighting it , I demanded more and more proof, got it and then explained it away . I got one firm message " One last chance, if you are so adamant and you dont believe this next proof demonstration , well then , so be it ... we will be gone and leave you alone ." That one blew me outa the water ... I just could not explain it without assuming other crazy stuff , then I realized I was going against a core teaching in my tradition : " The only true sin is deny what you have found to be true because it does not pander to your prejudices . " I am so glad I accepted the experiences and gave them validity .... what a great help they have been ! Life is VERY hard without 'help from upstairs' . I dont go on about it much though as its an experience relevant to me .
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That how my school of Magick works ! ' Scientific Illuminism' .- 'Certainty via conclusive experimentation , not faith .'
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You should not believe what a fairy tells you .
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Nah ! Fairies dont have tails .
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Fear of death ?
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.... so then I painted my son blue ^ " Hold still boy ! "
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What would happen if people collectivley decided that money/currency has no value in itself, and abanded it?
Nungali replied to Sir Darius the Clairvoyent's topic in General Discussion
No ... that is indicated by personal physical 'uncomfort' . The 'comfort' I was talking about is 'civilizational ' . -
Okay .... so it possibly does NOT go beyond Homo Sapiens (and I note , that some term Neanderthals as ' Homo Sapiens neanderthalensis ' which includes it in Homo sapiens , while others classify them as ' Homo neandertalensis ' .... but let's not go there .... but it does include them and their traits under Homo sapiens )
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Its one of the first expressions of 'soul' * , an ability that no other species seems to exhibit and makes us distinctive . * in a psychological / anthropological context , not a religious philosophical one .
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yes, it can seem that way and sometimes I feel like that . But if there isnt an afterlife and this one life is all we get , that just makes it more precious, important and wonderful ... dont waste you time guys ! It might be the only one you got . And considering and meditating on that , one might even eventually be able to add 'ecstatic' to one's list of 'appreciations' .
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What would happen if people collectivley decided that money/currency has no value in itself, and abanded it?
Nungali replied to Sir Darius the Clairvoyent's topic in General Discussion
No . It sounds like one giant hassle to me, even though I am better placed than most for such a scenario .... I am very comfortable at the moment . Civilization can collapse all it wants ..... after I am gone .