Nungali

" Knowledge " .... if it is based on or replicates a process in nature = asset . If it isn't based on that its probably some aberrant human head trip = burden . ..... what does duck look like without the dog mask ?

Unfortunately , being separated by a vast ocean , I cannot enter peoples abodes and throw their laptops or phones at them

I'm sorry , they weren't . When Christians first swarmed back into 'their Holy Lands' the first ones across the divide (into Asia ) raced down and immediately started slaughtering the 'enemy' ... except they forgot to check .... they where Christians that happened to live there . Then they caught some other guys , sliced off their buttocks and BBQed bottom steaks . It was a cruel and nasty torturing world back then .... virtually from the beginning .... 'Christian Lands' had been the Roman Empire . It was not until later , as Maddie pointed out , where influences of the Enlightenment started to bring 'Christian Lands' out of their ignorant barbarism . Sorry western civ Christians .... bit thats history .

Maybe you could explain this , and why and where you are coming from . I dont get it . But anyway ... Did you know that the WOMAN who first invented 'monopoly' ( although under a different name - they stole it, of course and changed it ) supplied a variant set of rules so a totally different game could be played ? - no private ownership of property , all rent went into a collective fund to pay for services and other egalitarian rules where in place . Not sure how one played it though .

Lets go backwards ; 'enlightenment' < influence of Islamic 'Golden Age ' < influence from Haran , Syria 'Hermetics ' ( early 'science' which developed into the modern science that contributed to the Enlightenment - 'scientific revolution' ) - which includes Platonism < migration from Alexandria ( ' Great Library ' , The Alexandrian Synthesis , etc ) < input from various sources including Zoroastrianism . lets not forget that civilization = or ends up as industrialization on some levels ... not a friend of the environment at all . However many 'un civilized ' cultures have ecological awareness including both from a spiritual and material nature based necessity .

But did they originate in Christian lands ? And why do people think they did ? 'Popular' History seems to have swept the originators under the carpet . Human rights / more egalitarian forms of government ..... better sexual equality ..... animal rights encoded in legislation ..... protection of the environment (again within legislation ) .... and perhaps even the whole ethical foundation o/f western civilization ? Generally : https://infinitediscoveries.org/zoroastrianism-an-ancient-persian-faith-and-the-foundations-of-western-civilization/ Sexual equality : " Women in ancient Persia had more rights and greater freedom than any other ancient civilization including, according to some scholars, even ancient Egypt which is famous for its respect for the feminine principle in religion as well as daily life " https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1493/twelve-great-women-of-ancient-persia/ Animals : "Religion is often criticized for failing to uphold animal concerns, yet Zoroastrianism, an ancient religion that underlies the Abrahamic traditions as well as Eastern religions, offers some strikingly contemporary concerns regarding the kinship of human and nonhuman animals. Human and nonhuman animals alike have souls, free will, and life after death. In the middle of the second millennium BCE, Zoroaster called attention to the treatment of animals as necessary to the divine order and righteousness that has been disturbed by evil and sin. How humans treat animals also affects their own well-being in this world and the next." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358395192_Zoroaster_and_the_Animals Environment ; General - contemporary ; https://parsi-times.com/2021/11/our-environment-a-zoroastrian-perspective/

D' Oh !

I guess it sounds like a huge ... If I debate with a flat earther I use my main citational fact : " Earth only be flat 'cause yo Momma been sittin' on it ! "

Okay , I have had enough of this game now . Lets get real .... has anyone actually gone top the source material for this claim ? Its even posted in post 1 ; Sorry to rain on the parade guys ... its been a fun parade . Did Jesus go to the Himalayas ? NO . The source material is a prediction of someone who is to come ; " . The Bhavishya Purana was originally written 5,000 years ago by the sage Vyasa, who was the compiler of the Vedic scriptures. Usually Puranas are historical narrations of universal events that happened in ancient times, but in the case of the Bhavishya Purana, Vyasa is providing a narration of events that will happen in the future, " and " Bhavishya Purana. Bhavishya means “future”, and Purana means “history”, so the name means the “history of the future”. here is an interesting aside ; " The people from Tittiri and Bahikaus who could assume any form at will. " ... like ; ' a man radiating golden light ' who says ' I am " Isha putra" ' . I COULD go through the whole lot and expose this fallacy more completely ... but hey .... I am not getting paid here . Now .... another question ; Did Jesus time travel back to 5000 ya to appear in the Himalayas ?

Are you asking for a reference ? Its hollow earth 'theory' I , unfortunately cannot comply with your request ; " Please tell me some clown doesn't really believe this. "

Its nice to know that split ends dont go all the way to the roots and create baldness .

In my tradition it works the other way around ; mind 'splits' things in two ... but THEN one sees both sides of the question, they are then combined to dispel illusion . X+ + X - = 0

True , but if one already knows what one is talking about , that would have come from previous study , references and comparisons (if not ... does one really know what one is talking about ? ) and does not take much time at all . I remember our 'Onanerous ' Drew Hemple arguing with me about some pretty obvious historical and archaeological research and theory regarding BMAC archaeology , Indo-Iranians and related subjects . Of course, replete with insults, straw men, laughter , mocking .... " No such thing ! " and 'DBs psychology ' , etc . Then I would refer him to the source material . he eventually called foul accusing me of having some type of modern super computer that could look things up and find references faster than he could . In a way he was right , as I was using ...... my brain and memory .... from what I had studied and referenced and collated previously and I already knew how to frame my questions and the location of the citations . It would take me a few minutes to write reference and counter his obvious ignorance and sheer egotistical power tripping attempt at uneducated and untrained 'mental / academic 'fencing' . Then he would have to take a very long time to find things on the internet , to back up his wrong opinion ... well of course that is gonna take a lot longer he was arguing with me within my field of specialty , in a subject he didnt even know existed ! (Not that I am accusing you guys of this .) The above might sound like an ego trip in itself , but it it isnt ..... it would be rather stupid of me , for example , to take on Coby in a debate about the meaning of Chinese texts . Then there is just the banter side of things where talk about things as 'uninformed opinion ' ..... sometimes the two things get confused .

That isnt a monkey wrench , as 'the enlightened' know there is direct access (by inner earth UFO ) from Himalayas to North America . he gets around , pops his head up here and there .... if you had a big space hammer you could play 'wack a mole' .

Caption anyone ?

Anyway folks .... let's get back on track ; Jesus in the Himalayas ;

Eh ? Did I infer It was 'odd' ? It did 'work' , I was saying , for her . ..... for a while . Well, for a while , when she was doing 'the steps' , ( at least that seemed some type of 'acknowledgement' she did come to me and apologise for being such a bitch and acknowledging how good and patient I had been with her . That surprised me . But turns out she later dumped Jesus later . .. . maybe he wasnt 'convenient' for her any more ? I think she is some type of pagan conspiracy theorist now .

yes .... or being unable to back up what one said when it is challenged . . . that can make one an instant DBs psychologist . I must warn you , they have penetrative insight and can be aware of motivations in yourself you never knew you had (or others observed ) . - right from the beginning I just knew an 'Abrahamic ' religious discussion forum was gonna 'pay off ' .

No I dont . You're bossy .

I didnt say Freudian psychology . https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=root

Besides, I dont like them things , a priest dropped one on my arm once ... started fizzing and burning me it did !

have you read Joseph Cambell 's writing on 'eating God' , 'divine cannibalism ' ? ... then wash it down with a nice glass of fresh blood

I got an idea . lets abandon the idea if Jesus was in India and start picking on Maddie instead .... and offer her free psychological advice from the TBs experts !

And thats what Thomas said after he did it .

Ermmm ... John 20:27 . (hows that for 'selective quoting ' )