Paul

I won't discuss Dzogchen with people who only want to be ruthless toward it. Is there anything else you want to discuss? Emptiness is the opposite of fundamentalism, BTW. It is the destruction of concepts...

Nope. Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Fear the beard.

Because in their presence life is bliss and you are a joker on the internet. Sure, why not? I don't trust you in any way, shape or form.

Here's the key difference. I requested teachings from these realized beings and they gave me transmissions of the lineage. You are a joker on the internet. I don't care. I don't have to. If you want to understand that we can meet and discuss in person or you can follow a transmission by a Dzogchen teacher.

The Buddha is emptiness and emptiness is the Buddha.

Because they taught me. I think I'm following buddhas. I don't care what you are doing. You say this because you have no idea what you are talking about.

Coming with questions and doubts is one thing, calling Buddha trite will be taken as disrespectful. So you would find out no one has any time or anything to say to you.

The term appears millions of times in the sutras. It's fresh to me.

Vedantins need gurus too

I mind. Gelong Yeshe Rinpoche, Drubpon Gonpo Dorje Rinpoche, HH Drikung Chetsang Rinpoche, HH Taklung Matul Rinpoche, Khenpo Konchog Gyaltsen Rinpoche, HH Tenzin Gyatso, Traga Lama, Choegyal Namkhai Norbu, Kunzang Dechen Lingpa Rinpoche, Garchen Rinpoche I'm saying you might think going without a teacher might be enough, but for me that would be woefully deficient. I never said Dzogchen teaching frowns on analysis. I said Dzogchen is beyond explanations. The teaching is not Dzogchen.

It's none of your business. You reject the teacher in favor of yourself, so you're automatically out.

You don't know what I believe. I sure can. I know who my teachers are. What's enough for you might not be for me. So?

I suppose if respecting my teacher is funny, then laugh on... But consider, wisdom in Dzogchen depends on a teacher.

Yay!

I don't have a view to outline. I can tell you what my Dzogchen teachers say. First thing they say is it breaks samaya to discuss Dzogchen with people who are not earnestly devoted to the teacher. A single word of Dzogchen teaching is enough to attain enlightenment. So each word is precious. Those who want to denigrate, analyze and be skeptical of Dzogchen have no business advising what these terms mean to an OP who appeared sincerely interested in what the terms are. I mentioned clarity-emptiness is wisdom in Dzogchen. To which, some joker said "emptiness" is trite. To which I replied, that's bullshit. Now here we are.

Did you expect anyone was taking you seriously?

I know. It's better to stick my tongue out at these people than debate Dzogchen.

My mummy died. I hate you.

Go back to smelling your farts in the bathtub, genius.

You're most unwelcome

Puke face

Go jump in a lake.

Their called the Dzogchen tantras. They are relics of the dharmakaya. So, yeah, they have a fixed form.

You're right Dzogchen is not a lineage. But the teaching is.