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Yeah, pretty much what I thought. You really are that obtuse. Its a totally different thing that Im getting at than what you are on about. Theres really no need for you to reply to me anymore.

its irrelevant anyways, it seems youre saying "since no ones barely enlightened, whats it matter if we go down the route to oppression and loss of freedoms,etc". maybe youre one of the 99.99%? perhaps youre overestimating your own luminosity.

Always have to watch out for when someone says "when 99 percent of people"..have so and so or do such and such. In this case the great dark slayer of the internet underworld is making the broad sweeping generalization of all broad sweeping generalizations to try and down play the very real scenario of people in power taking advantage of a situation where they could have even more. Even if what you say is true, that doesnt mean its acceptable for those of us in the real world -not wanting to see things like that happen. You seem particularly obtuse and almost totally oblivious to human history, and what can easily happen when a fearful society gets freaked the f*** out and is willing to do anything for "safety".

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/03/lord-sumption-speaks-against-hysteria-driven-government-policy-.html The real problem is that when human societies lose their freedom, it's not usually because tyrants have taken it away. It's usually because people willingly surrender their freedom in return for protection against some external threat. And the threat is usually a real threat but usually exaggerated. That's what I fear we are seeing now. The pressure on politicians has come from the public. They want action. They don't pause to ask whether the action will work. They don't ask themselves whether the cost will be worth paying. They want action anyway. And anyone who has studied history will recognise here the classic symptoms of collective hysteria.

It is true technology has been being tracked for god knows how long, mostly for marketing purposes. It’s already intrusive enough. That doesn’t mean you just give up all rights to privacy cuz you’re scared.

I thought I was done with you. Why you keep taking one or two words out of my posts and posting them out of context. Go away, Warcraft troll. Go be a good boy and wash your hands.

Exactly. First you give up a little freedom for “safety”. Then more fear is created, ok we can push a bit further. It doesn’t take much. And people are missing the point. Wether it’s conspiracy is totally meaningless and claiming whoever doesn’t totally buy into all the fear mongering etc is a “conspiracy theorist”, all that does is totally discount any dissenting viewpoint. Which is very dangerous in itself. With technology how it is and people’s willingness to roll over at the first sign of adversity, it could be like taking candy from a baby.

That is probably true, and actually is proving my point, thank you. And..he apparently had enough clout that many governments listened to his recommendations the first time about millions of people dying. Hey, you’re the one who claimed to be listening to “top doctors” that this thing is bad. Point is that these are the people feeding you all your “reliable” info. But again,it appears the only thing you’re good at is apparently casting insults as opposed to any type of critical thinking.

Haha bill gates said he thinks it’s a good idea that there would be mandatory vaccines with tracking. He said it on reddit. That’s not a “conspiracy” it’s something he thinks is just a great idea, you know, for our own good. If you want to subscribe “conspiracy” to that that’s your own issue. Again, I prefer to listen to experts from Yale and Stanford and Germany etc who I posted about above rather than a dungeons and dragons cosplay fanatic. and another: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/prof-who-predicted-500k-deaths-uk-has-startling-change-heart-now-predicts-under-20k-two-week Ferguson - whose 'Terrifying' research from just 10 days ago predicted 2.2 million deaths in the US and that the UK would need to be under quarantine for 18 months or more - now says that coronavirus will not overwhelm the UK's ICU beds, and that over 1/2 of those it will kill would have died by the end of the year anyway because they were so old and sick Maybe it’s you, who’s believing in a conspiracy.

Conspiracy theories? I never said virus isn’t real. I posted many experts (real ones, not some guy pretending to be a wizard who’s probably just a dungeons and dragons role player posting random charts about 3000 people dying per day) who believe the whole thing is being way overhyped. Totalitarianism has happened before in case you didn’t notice. And usually when there’s a huge amount of fear the people are very easy to control. there doesn’t need to be any “conspiracies “. Now, I’ll leave you to your world of Warcraft marathon session.

Nope. 8th grade. But even an 8th grader isn’t buying your nonsensical explanation.

You only speak “truth” but choose to post a fear mongering chart that twists numbers to suit a certain narrative. So you’re a lying fucking hypocrite too, besides being an over sensitive little [word removed by system].

“Never let a good crisis go to waste”

Lol you actually think that an insult. Sensitive much? Meanwhile you are calling other people stupid and telling them they are autistic or have Alzheimer’s.

Nothing to see here. Just keep obeying. If you’re comfortable with shit like this then you probably deserve whatever comes after. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/an-invisible-quantum-dot-tattoo-is-being-suggested-to-id-vaccinated-kids https://savedmag.com/bill-gates-quantum-dot-digital-tattoo-implant-to-track-covid-19-vaccine-compliance/

Show me where I insulted you first. You cant. The chart makes no sense without context. Like I said, you dont have to be a math major to figure out theres no way in f*** that COVID is killing 3000 people "per day" like the chart says. Thats all it says and it seems to be insinuatiing it kills way more people "per day" than all those other diseases. Since COVID been around for 5 months and had a grand total of 36000 deaths as of TODAY, clearly its either making a projection or something else, hence why I asked the question for some context on what it was getting at. But you took it personally like a bitch in diapers.

you are the one who said it was "per day",. then backtracked and said its for "today". Huge difference. Im done talking to you about it , but continue throwing childish insults around. I was simply trying to understand the context of the chart, since it seemed disingenuous. Bye.

LOL. Ok. Random chart guy. You win

It isnt "fact" . Im not arguing the cases havent jumped. Your original chart made it appear that that many people were dying every day over the lenght of the virus. Since you didnt clarify what it was actually showing, there was confusion.

right, so its just a model. He shouldve said so when posting the chart.

https://www.theamericanmirror.com/2020/03/video-cbs-news-used-packed-emergency-room-video-from-italy-in-story-about-new-york-hospital-conditions/ Hilarious.

Ok? the virus has been around for four months, at least. how is it killing 3500 people per day when the death total is at 36,000 right now? According to your chart, that total shouldve been achieved in the last ten days. Like I said, doesnt make sense.

Im not very good at math but that doesnt seem right, especially since the total death toll worldwide isnt even 40,000 as of now.

I will provide a video, where he shows papers and quotes from high level scientist all over the world basically stating if the virus hadnt been brought to anyones attention there would be really nothing out of the ordinary and the overall death totals are actually down compared to even just the last couple of years. Its up to you or whoever to watch it with an open mind, without that theres really no point. I will quote a few of the prominent doctors on the video to give an idea : "If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR status, the number of deaths due to "influenza tyype illness" would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have noted that the flu season was a bit worse than average".. This one from the founding director of yale prevention research center: "I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life will be long lasting and calamitious, possibly greater than the virus itself...the unemployment, impoverishment, and despair will be public health scourges of the first order" As long as you are just plugged into the medias narrative, thats all you will see. And theyve already put through legislation things inching ever closer to the scenario I laid out. I have no desire to spoon feed anyone about all this, the information is readily available, and not on "conspiracy" sites , either. anyways, heres the video, I suggest watching from minute 59 through an hour and 40 minutes. The media is not your friend, its basically psychological warfare. The fallout from the lockdowns, emotionally/ and fiinancially,(even if it doesnt lead to greater loss of freedom, which I sincerely doubt) will be much worse than the illness. Its crazy, its like most people have no sense of history.

I see all this worry in this thread over the virus. I could post about 30 different quotes from highly respected scientists/epidemiologists all over the world saying this whole thing is being totally overblown and that the after effects from the panic will be much worse than anything the virus will do. does anyone care that their phones are being tracked now pretty much legally by their governments? Does anyone care that more than likely there will be a mandatory vaccine that will be rushed thru with really none of the usual testing standards? Besides the devestating financial downfall and traumatic media bullshit they are shoving down people’s throats, it has the potential to make 1984 seem like kindergarten. , but no one is even talking about it. Nevermind that your fellow citizen will be your “policing ” you, taddling on you for coughing or not obeying the orders from in high.