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Oprah and Ellen degeneras? wut. Oprah wears skin creme made from circumsized penises. Its easy to look "open" when your making millions giving bullshit advice to middle aged women and feminized males who think they know everything because they own an iphone 12.

Excellent.

true.

You dont have to. You were throwing things around in your post about the after death state with a lot of certainty, so I simply am wondering where you got that type of confidence about death from. I figured it was some religious thousand year old text you were referencing, but just was curious. You dont know any more than me or anyone else does.

Where did I say Ive experienced the "death bardo" in meditation? I have no clue what that even would look like. Ive had "cessation" type experiences though, where things flickered out and went offline.. but nothing constituting anything like youre describing. You totally just made that up, please dont. Also, Im not sure I agree with your assertion about what happens in meditation. Theres "dullness" that can be circumvented with enough practice time that I suppose could be akin to "death" and the aliveness that comes when real awareness and attention are brought in could be "birth"-so again as metaphors I can see these working, and even in seeing ones own mind and proclivities certain habit energies "die off"...but upon more careful observation these are metaphors, nothing more.

You made a lot of claims about what happens at the moments of death and beyond up to and including the ""49 days" where we can reincarnate..or not. Im aware that this may be metaphor-if so please tell me because taken literally it just sounds like more religious nonsense.

Well Im sure we could take any book and imagine a scenario where what its claiming or talking about "could" be true at any given time under the right circumstances. But theres also the danger of getting lost in the words.

experiencing it first hand is of course much different than buying into what any book says wholesale. that still doesnt constitute any type of proof of what you claimed in your other post, though.

oh. which book shall we worship today?

Source?

I agree for the most part. I should've said "objective science" without An agenda isn't the problem. The Buddha was a scientist in many respects. In regards to what you're saying, look at how many people latched into Elon musk and his simulation theory and now use it as their worldview. A very intelligent human to be sure, but something tells me that he and ones like him who come up with these things are exposed to narrow "reality tunnels"(i.e. Technology) then get into positions of influence and suddenly their worldview is "in".

I don't think It's science that's the problem.

Glad someone finally said it.

No offense but I don't think it's censorship in this case. Most of your posts are really just self serving bullshit and if you're trying to be funny they aren't that either. It was cute for awhile but now it's just annoying and quite a bore.

You can't juxtapose things from 3000 years ago that were said and take them as literal. The world was totally different. To even find someone to teach you meditation would require arduous journeys and no guarantee of even finding anyone. People had no toilets and lived short lives. (got this bit from shinzen young) taking all that into account awakening or enlightenment was probably thought of as virtually impossible and for good reason. Today the average 12 year old has more comfort and knowledge at their fingertips than the kings of that time. Taking the words said by masters back then and pretending they are literal truth without looking deeper(at least when it comes to the subject of this thread) is very shortsighted and somewhat ignorant.

The first post was so full of dogma that it was tough to even get through. But then @allinone came along and just.. well idk but he did what he always does and types nonsense, which kind of fits in this thread I suppose.

The above two posts are true however I've seen as in sure we all have the affect of the phones and social media. People have the attention spans of fleas and it's only getting worse. That's no way to go through life. I've witnessed it in myself when I'm not aware. now you have twelve yr olds w cell phones who think they know everything, and can't pay attention to anything or anyone for more than 5 seconds at a time.

Now I really want to hear!

I dont get your posts really but no big deal. I was coming at it from a different perspective I suppose, since I have some experience with this type of practice. I just think all the theories etc are fun to read about but pretty much irrelevant when it comes to actually experiencing what the practice can do .

Thats great. I'm just saying someone *could* read and decide Reich is insane and dismiss the work entirely. Someone who overthinks or analyzes everything could come to this conclusion. But I understand it can go both ways and actually be motivating.

wow I think you guys are totally taking the reich stuff way out of context. Reich may have "started it" but dont get all bogged down in who did what when. It really doesnt matter. All Im trying to get across is the exercises and the breathing are highly effective and worth looking into. Put aside all the psychological and "orgone energy" nonsense, it really doesnt matter at all. Idk enough about Osho to even comment but again, does it really matter? edit- I realize I may have taken out of context the above posts, Im just saying that analyzing wether reich was right or wrong or even delving deep into his theories are totally irrelevant to doing these practices, and actually might stop someone from trying them or may in fact get in the way. Nothing personal:)

Thats a nice link, theres hundreds of exercises in this "system" that are contained from many sources. Calling it Reich or Lowen or bioenergetics is just a shorthand I suppose but at a certain point it becomes the indivivuals own personal repertoire of exercises. The actual breathing sessions/body work that I engage in is something else entirely than lowen/reich,(at least how its described from decades ago) although obviously it has elements of both.