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Looking forward to getting back to this thread. I’ve given myself rather a lot of work to do over the next month so it’s taking up almost all possible time. Until then here are some exercises to keep things loose bit of nice Qigong in there as well splendid…

If this is a simulation it’s massive isn’t it?

@Sir Darius the Clairvoyent have you chilled yet?

I would be interested to know how Yijinjing affects Motor Units - firing rates ,,, And my specific question would be , could exercises like Yijinjing sets (typical martial ones let’s say) off the the loss of Motor Units. This video suggests that by age 70 we could have lost 40% of days units [and no way to get them back] So we are not talking muscle size per se, we are talking about the motor units that fire them, for strength power swiftness and precision. I wonder if studies have been done to ascertain what this sort of intensity and repetitious stretching, contracting and relaxing exercises does for the central nervous system and specifically the preservation of more motor units for later on in life??? I figure study on the effect of later arts that still hold true to the Yijinjing principles may be of use in answering this question with at least some accuracy. I hope so I’d really like if someone could chime in with some empirical data …

I really don’t mind , but I would rather you focused on Yijinjing , there is a lot to be said about it, here are some of the places I’d like to take the thread the people, the places and the practices of early practitioners mainly earlier on from year 600 ad onwards (before can be interesting too though) Taiji, I-Chaun, Hsing-I, Bagua, all deserve their own threads in my opinion so I’m more interested in keeping to Yijinjing as much as possible,,, however offshoots, hybridisations and earlier imaginings , roots/commonalities are still welcome here. Although it would be good to see something more obscure than typical if you wanna mention other arts. Practice experience , hints, tips, tricks, dos and donts, pros and cons. Comparisons with other practices, suggested adjunct exercises, complimentary exercises to Yijinjing etc etc , subjective experience insights , that would be brilliant, if you had experience just jump in with a comment and keep it going? that’s about it really, where it came from, who practiced it and how, then how modern folk practice it, understand it. Yijinjing , anything to offer on the subject at all you’re free to offer. And if in disagreement to points that’s great ok, just try to keep it about the YJJ History - Notable Characters - Theory or Practice… hope that helps 👍

i don't mind to be honest, we can form mountains out of rock if we drip enough water on them.

I don’t know why you express opinions as truth, it really damages your reputation on here. Magnets exist in the earth, in fact it’s quite possible the entire earths core is magnetic Copper Coils only for electricity???, explain lightening I get what you are saying, nothing happens in life without oxygen i get it the universe wouldn’t function without. same could be said about the Color red, or cheese. it’s a shame you you have to get judgey here and it doesn’t seem to matter when people put you right. We have to make room for other peoples opinions for equanimity harmony, sanity… very important. So I’m not going to tell you about the human body creating electricity, (many it will illustrate a bigger point for you) you’ll have to find that research yourself. It’s a pity I’m a very amiable person. But you seem to prefer vexation to conversation. Also you’re the only person that seems to not want to delve into the subject of Yijinjing here. It’s a better I bet your would bring significance and have good contribution here if you helped it grow , best regards 🙏

Not totally. It’s easier though to be more energetically sensitive with less food I’ve found. I think a lot is down to simple blood flow and how much easier it circulates though to aid focus and concentration especially to the brain. Fasting is great, but I think not with Yijinjing practice

I don’t know I think you are leaving a lot on the tables talking about chi in terms of oxygen I find it a bit ridiculous when I think about what we know about electrons now. How neurons work and the electrical and magnetic forces that are at work on the planet, in the planet, on our bodies and in our bodies… We know there are electrical impulses firing. I know oxygen is important but you are very much missing the point that these old legends (and modern understandin) leverage as cold plain facts. Visualisation for example.it’s not a modern invention… you must realise, the mind doesn’t think in words, it thinks in pictures… The memory works that way, the senses give us input and lock us into our nervous system. A nervous system so incredible it cannot even distinguish reality from a visualisation (if the visualisation is absorbing enough) the nervous system will totally change … So you see it is thought and intention that has power to guide chi just as much as oxygen and food… I don’t know why you want to reduce it all to breathing. It’s important but only a part of the picture. There is some much beyond the focus off breath. I’ve found the real profound experiences tend to happen when breath is actually completely forgotten about… Oxygen is great but remember it’s really the Stars (and possibly the black holes) that power the universe… plus oxygen is just one on our periodic table even here. So much more to it. I do commend your dedication to it though , I really do…

My mind is a micro chasm!

You didn’t read my last post clearly enough. Please reread it slowly and get back to me , 🙏 Then more pictures 🗡

Wow that’s awesome. I can draw from my experience and see if I can resolve the some good checkpoints ,, You know one springs to mind. It’s funny what you find in Taoism that seems unrelated and one simple daily practice can change some massive dramatically. im thinking about social anxiety and associated issues deeply rooted and anchored to nervous system , how to shift? A really powerful way I started to change was when I started using the book Chi Self Massage… One lesson in there is, Draw Tear From Eye Simply staring at my thumb every day around 5-8 inches from my nose,,, but no blinking, like burning concentration. wow it was like eating a red hot chilli pepper 😂 but really… I think this takes a deep effect in nervous system and retraining eyes is a massive portal to the changes you seek. There are so many reasons but I can’t really have time to list right now. Still that book I mentioned , if you order it you want be sorry. A lot of what you are going through is deeply anchored in the body. As it is for all of us. This book delivers a great understanding of this. but better it gives practical easy exercises we can do through the day to stabilise real results a few minutes at the time. there are other eye exercises in there too. I learned all the exercises and I consider it a Bible. I studied massage and imo no book does what this does. It’s simple common sense once you know it but regular massage addresses none of it. Funny old world isn’t it. The burning eyeballs tear trick is great. I promise after you will keep eye contact and even while you’re doing it your whole physiology will change MASSIVELY Gawd Darn It!!!!! ps both eyes have to water though or it doesn’t count, good luck my friend, speak soon. And pm any time 👍

Knew that would get your attention. Ward is to Draw ✍️ ⚔️

Existence is a completed movie, We just think we are in the middle of it. the moment is just like the laser light hitting a dvd disc as it spins. We are completely completing completed completion… Word backwards is Drow

Another interesting Figure of Songshan is Ge Xuan, the grand uncle of one of my favourite characters so far, Ge Hong... He was kicking around the mountains possibly earlier than anyone else in recorded history, apart from the legend / myth character Yin Xi.. Anyway here is a video with a bit of nice history... Regarding exercise Ge Xuan is said to be the originator of; "Five Animal Frolics" (五禽戏, Wuqinxi): A series of exercises mimicking the movements of animals. Ge Xuan is believed to have refined these exercises to focus on internal qi cultivation. "Nine Bends of the Yellow River" (黄河九曲): Movements symbolizing the winding flow of the Yellow River, used to enhance qi circulation and calm the mind. "Drawing the Bow to Shoot the Eagle" (引弓射雕): A posture designed to strengthen the back, regulate breathing, and open the chest. I'm certain it's hard to say for sure though, it was 164–244 CE Ge Xuan's methods likely included biqi (闭气), or "breath-holding," to concentrate qi in specific areas. (This is a new term for me today in Chinese although I have used the technique before and do use it is some of the Yijinjing form I'm currently practicing) Just looking at breath for a moment I though to include this quick summery, although more general and not specific to YJJ, still interesting to see the history of these well known to modern readers techniques for ingesting, circulating, breath / qi... Daoist Breath Circulation Practices: From the Tang to the Song Dynasty Tang Dynasty (618–907) During the Tang Dynasty, Daoist meditation practices underwent significant developments, incorporating Buddhist influences and the teachings of various schools. In particular, the 8th century saw the composition of important texts that shaped Daoist practices, including breath circulation methods. Sima Chengzhen’s Fuqi Jingyi Lun (730) Sima Chengzhen (647–735), a prominent Daoist of the Shangqing School, wrote the Fuqi Jingyi Lun (Essay on the Essential Meaning of Breath Ingestion) in 730. This text combines traditional Chinese physical techniques with Buddhist-inspired meditation (guan), focusing on purification and longevity. The text is divided into nine sections, with one of the key ideas being the practice of "ingesting breath" or fuqi. In this practice, practitioners absorb Qi (vital energy) instead of food, using techniques like visualization and internal guidance to circulate and store Qi in their body. Initially, practitioners would abstain from eating grains and instead "ingest Qi" by visualizing the rising sun and guiding the Qi through the body’s organs. Although this process can initially weaken the body, over time it is believed to purify the practitioner and lead to greater vitality and spiritual realization, with the ultimate goal of becoming a "zhenren" or "Perfected One" after nine years of practice. The Taiqing Xingqi Fu and Other Methods Another important text, the Taiqing Xingqi Fu (Great Clarity Talisman for Facilitating Qi Circulation), offers detailed guidance on breath circulation. It explains two primary methods of circulating Qi: Xingqi (Circulating Qi) – This method involves directing the Qi to specific areas of the body, such as the brain or areas of illness. Inner Vision – By focusing inwardly, practitioners can "see" the flow of Qi through the body's organs and guide it mentally. This method distinguishes itself from ordinary imagination by emphasizing a deeper, more controlled visualization. Further texts, such as the Yanling Xiansheng Ji Xinjiu Fuqi Jing (745), explore advanced techniques, including using the will to guide the Qi to specific areas of the body and holding it there to heal ailments. Song Dynasty (960–1279) Daoist breath circulation practices continued to evolve during the Song Dynasty, with new techniques and interpretations emerging. Master Ning’s Breath Circulation Method One notable development during this time was the Ning Xiansheng Daoyin Fa (Master Ning’s Gymnastic Method), attributed to Master Ning, a legendary figure said to have served the Yellow Emperor. His method included a series of exercises inspired by the movements and breath of various animals, such as the toad, tortoise, wild goose, and dragon. These exercises involved rhythmic breathing, breath retention, and body movements, each designed to guide and circulate Qi through the body. For example, the "Dragon Procedure of Circulating the Breath" involved bowing the head, holding the breath, and using hand movements to massage the body. This method, like others in Ning’s system, was believed to have powerful benefits, including enhancing the practitioner’s ability to withstand extreme conditions, such as going into fire without burning. Guiding and Refining the Breath Later texts, such as Ceng Cao’s Taijing Daoyin Yangsheng Jing (12th century), emphasized the importance of guiding the breath (xingqi) to control internal energy and the role of physical exercises (daoyin) in managing the external body. These practices were seen as complementary, with xingqi controlling the internal Qi flow and daoyin promoting external health through physical movement. @ChiDragon largely correct in most regard, but do you do much visualization? if at all?