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I would argue it is more about realizing human spirit. What you are describing is more akin to indefinite mortality than it is to immortality. If you take a biological humans head it is going to die. There-fore it is not immortal and immortality doesn't apply to the physical parts of the biological organisms. If you happened to cultivate an immortal spirit in the time you prolonged the biological death, then the body would still die, and the spirit would be without a body.
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The point is that if non of the aforementioned ailments kill you, the inability for cells to replicate will. I would prefer to see the research paper that refutes "aging" rather than a link to a book, then perhaps I would change my opinion on the matter. Senescence has been widely documented across many biological organisms: Nelson, Paul; Masel, Joanna (5 December 2017). "Intercellular competition and the inevitability of multicellular aging". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 114(49): 12982β12987. doi:10.1073/pnas.1618854114. PMC 5724245. PMID 29087299. ^ Lopez-Otin, C; et al. (2013). "The hallmarks of aging". Cell. 153 (6): 1194β217. doi:10.1016/j.cell.2013.05.039. PMC 3836174. PMID 23746838. ^ "Aging and Gerontology Glossary". Retrieved 26 February 2011. ^ Williams, G.C. (1957). "Pleiotropy, natural selection, and the evolution of senescence". Evolution. 11 (4): 398β411. doi:10.2307/2406060. JSTOR 2406060. ^ Austad, S (2009). "Comparative Biology of Aging". 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Death is a disease caused by cell division/replication. Each time a cell divides, the telomeres get shorter. When they get too short, the cell can no longer divide; it becomes inactive or "senescent" or it dies. This shortening process is associated with aging, cancer, and ultimately death. Over 220 billion cells are produced every day by the average human body, When cells can no longer divide, death of the body is inevitable. So perhaps one should consider looking beyond the body if they want to achieve immortality.
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Meditation on "Feeling" Love release Heart stress
maheosphet replied to 2ndchance's topic in General Discussion
For me it requires an activation each time I practice it. For that I just remember the feeling and the location of that feeling and focus on it with awareness. IE; Move awareness to that center. It helps closing the eyes at first because awareness likes to reside there by default. So closing the eyes helps to move it to another location. Another helpful tip is to physically touch that location, which will activate the sense of touch and guide awareness to that location. The feeling of joy/laughter is another center closer to the navel center, it can be activated just by recalling a funny joke and noting the location of the feeling, then putting awareness to that location and feeling it again. With enough practice you will be able to move these energeies (feelings) to multiple locations in the body. There are also other centers which exhibit "feelings" which correlate to their energy. Root, Third eye, and Inner Fire, lastly and the most pleasurable, imo, the crown. There is also one in your throat but I'm not aware of the sensation of energy that it generates. I use other energies to fill that location up when I inhale/exhale to help breathe a particular energy throughout the body. I think that for some, they are triggering an autonomous response, or something that is generally controlled by the body automatically. However the autonomous system can be overridden and controlled manually by various methods, most of which involve meditation. -
With the Idea of ownership, which includes an owner (self) and something that is being owned (not self), I would argue that you could not own anything. Otherwise you are just using verbal gymnastics and replacing the word self with awareness, without anything really changing. Anatta means (non self) in which there can be no owner.
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The glaring truth is a finger pointing a way to the moon.
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What about the energy centers residing in your body? Are those belonging to that body? Or to that awareness? What about the gray matter in your brain? Is that yours?
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My spirit (ME) still tends to own aspect of this body, especially the energy centers. Wouldn't want any strays to get the wrong idea. How would you convey such an idea without self, without endless tediousness, especially once you rid yourself of anything to own or any owner to own? Let's say just for instance; you are abiding in pure awareness and I come along and just take your soul/spirit, who or what is going to stop me? (hypothetically of course)
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I don't know if the point is to "achieve immortality" for all. Maybe for some, but they might be disappointed when they find out it is a spiritual immortality. Even more-so if they go down the wrong road and spend eternity suffering in bondage. I think pretty much every religion dangles some sort of supernatural carrot to entice it's followers to partake in it. Looking past the gold laden promises and peering into the heart of the matter, one might come to perceive the glaring truth of actuality. (What we really are)
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Singing Meditation to heal and protect Heart (Chakra)
maheosphet replied to 2ndchance's topic in General Discussion
I have had similar experiences using music during meditation. Solfeggio Harmonics 963 Hz, tends to help me (especially for the upper Dan Tien or 3rd eye (Ajna)). But some old tunes like Rythm is a Dancer, Walk Like an Egyptian, Sweet Dreams, light me up with energy. I mix heart energy with the chi to expel negative energies. I also like a couple spiritual tunes by Jesus Culture, like One Thing Remains, Break Every Chain and Holy Spirit. These songs also light me up. I would like to be neutral, but when you get attacked by negative entities it is difficult not to see them as they are. -
From what I gather they can resurrect once a day, early morning hours in the US of A. Wakey wakey, smitey smitey!
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Smite Mara twice a day to keep the evil spirits away!
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Lucky for you that you haven't encountered a malicious ethereal being. Perhaps considering Mara only in allegory is an easy way to discount the documented existence of malicious ethereal being beyond the veil. Without direct experience and sometimes even with direct experience, (one might write it off as mind tricks), one has no reason to believe such things exist, so I understand that perspective. I think it is easier for one to consider something so disturbing that it rocks the foundation of what one has considered as reality, as mere metaphor, rather than to rethink the foundation which all of ones accumulated "knowing" has been derived from. For then one would know very little. Do you know of any religions that don't document beings existing beyond the veil?
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The cause of this phenomena seems largely unknown in the medical profession. I have looked at many posts about this but haven't found a definitive answer in regards to medicine. What happens is that when I am about to fall asleep I feel my bed start to vibrate. It is slow at first but gets going faster if I let it be. By the time I wake up, (sometimes I am awoken in the middle of the night from it), the vibration is really fast like a cell phones vibration. I found that if I use my spirit and heart energy to push it away it will leave me alone long enough to fall asleep, but I feel like I have to constantly push it away from me even while I'm sleeping to keep it away, which makes for an unrestful sleep. I don't "know" exactly what it is but I have some guesses. I am curious if anyone knows what is (or even has an idea what it is) the cause of the vibrations and how to get rid of it? Thanks for reading. Here are some topics I found on a health forum about this topic and it seems to happen to quite a few people. https://ehealthforum.com/health/bed-shaking-at-night-t136404.html https://ehealthforum.com/health/topic90844_40.html
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Bed and Body Vibrations during sleep.
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It's like it starts in the bed and creeps into me if I don't push it away. -
One easy way to do this is to move the heart energy into your nostrils and breathe in through the nostrils letting the flow of energy coalesce into the lungs, then use the heart chakra to fill the lungs with even more energy, then breathe out the mouth. Rinse and repeat, this works for me in filling my entire body with that energy. How do you do it?
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Grue and bleen oozes. When you snoozes you loses. No more excuses.
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Light being seen in cultivation : some explorations with a gifted lady
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I see things like you describe, but in the sunlight. I call them sprites and they look like little swirling light particles dancing around. But that is with external sight. -
Light being seen in cultivation : some explorations with a gifted lady
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When you saw yourself as a light being, how did you see yourself? Was it with your external or internal eyes, and how big were you? About the diet, What do you eat and why? -
Light being seen in cultivation : some explorations with a gifted lady
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HI Sionnach Can I ask some questions about your experiences and diet? -
Cool story. I've seen a saucer with a cup of Au jus slide across a wood counter-top before, unaided. (meaning no strings or by any material means) And I was the only human in the vicinity.. There's more to it, but I'll leave it at that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tb8bWbA678
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I had once disregarded it as well and also at an early age. What are your thoughts on spirits/souls if I may ask?
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Perhaps it is fortunate for you that you have never encountered/experienced such "mystical" or "supernatural" phenomena / beings. I wouldn't believe it without first hand experience either!
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Perhaps it depends on how broadly one defines need, and if one can find happiness in contentment?