Just saying hi to all, I have been gratefully re-researching all sorts of aspects of taoism and the 3 nei_'s nei-tan, nei-gung and nei-chia My far ranging questions [on BKF, Winn, fire vs water and fire/water, pdf scouring] in all these tao bums was there like a beacon of hospitality and wisdom in a sea of crazy, shallow and lame. If there was a daobums link about a given topic I came to know I would be entertained, informed and usually wiser when done. So, thanks to all for gathering, sharing and especially whomever the taobumpope pope for creating this digital oasis. --- my practice of chi-gung and meditation goes back to 1985 and gurdjieff school in st. pete florida that had a work teacher with a very strong background in taoism [he had had a couple real deal teachers and later alot of sharing with other schools]. But at the time I learned a variation of water style meditation via the sarmoung to gurdjieff to hess that is very nearly identical to BKF's water methods. Also some preliminary swings and simple chi-kung and a strange form of hsing yi, punches and kicks. At the same time I was doing HTao smile and orbit and in 87 would study with winn. In 93-4 I finally went on retreat at Silent Ground and got a great exposure to the whole htao system from minke and christer there. Learned the book 2, which has been a sort of touchstone and measuring stick since. I ran across a few of the fire-related problems many htaoists do and then looked into winn's changes whole studying ba gua and wutang tai-chi with zhang jiw in seattle. Got to do a big 2 month review in 2004 with winn and also do some excellent ba gua and hsing yi with frank allen. In 99 I began learning the short and long forms from jonathan russell, sr. of tt liang. In 2002 I began teaching basics regualry and have done so of and on here in lake co california as time permits. Focusing on medical and seniors chi-gungs for locals these days. Just recently enjoying a few threads on clyman/temple style which i dabbled in long ago. Nice to see the conversations. I also spent 95 to recently as an Orthodox/Traditionalist Christian, do to strange reasons largeley beyond me it seems I am setting much of that gently as i can to the side and returning to a more or less full-time study practice of taoist san nei. Cheers, DR the neotaoist
