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  1. deleted

    i donno why ppl say that. the first line says exactly the opposite: dao can be expressed. funny peeps;)
  2. Most accurate Golden Flower translation?

    first of all it does not matter. with or without XXX GF is doable only for a select few not an average reader. Secondly, saying that a book is useless without XXX is bafflingly unreasonable. who would write a useless book? who would read a useless book?...idk ppl just keep saying the damnedest things...
  3. Zhou Ziliang's elixir

    there is neither of these occurrences in his extant diary. In fact the elixir is mentioned two times only: 1) the spirit says to him 'when the elixir is swallowed you first go to the Penglai paradise' 2) in his papers there was an unattributed elixir recipe with no other pertinent info. just in case you guys are curious what the recipe was (AI transl.)
  4. Zhou Ziliang's elixir

    it is by Tao himself, in the body of his original preface. It only appears to be at the end of the translation because a large chunk of the original coming after the 'note' was omitted by the translator. https://www.zhonghuadiancang.com/xuanxuewushu/zhoushimingtongji/29412.html because he documented his preparatory communication with the spirits, departed at the previously set time, shed his body serenely, with no symptoms of poisoning, and was unavailable in Tao's dreams the difference is not due the structure of the otherworld per se, but rather due to the individual merit. the practicers with high individual merit get to be independent 'retirees' in the otherworld, versus the ordinary mortals who have to go through the process to be later conscripted as minor heavenly officials. It was the same in ZZ's time as well
  5. Zhou Ziliang's elixir

    a part of the story can be read legit on googlebooks one would think that the blame and remorse is about not stopping Ziliang from suicide, if it can be even called such. but it cannot be so because Ziliang successfully transcended. Actually the remorse is about failing to learn Ziliang's transcendence method. actually it was normative. the shock was due to the unexpected nature of the incident, not to the use of alleged poison. Also the story specifically denies any evidence of poisoning
  6. Is this forum still about Taoism...?

    the party line is that DDJ, ZZ, LZ all belong to some kind of an abstract 'ancient chinese philosophy' , to the 'philosophical Taoism' branch of it : 道家是中国哲学史上的一个流派
  7. Is this forum still about Taoism...?

    i did not;) why read cringe western fakery about china when there is so many genuine chinese literature? i recommend this for starters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Tales_from_a_Chinese_Studio
  8. Is this forum still about Taoism...?

    unfortunately they are wrong on this. And the reason for being wrong is that China is (and always been) a totalitarian state. The chinese leaders always minimize the sway of religion, in case of taoism declaring that the historically most important scriptures do not belong to it. And the reason to keep a tight leash on religion stems from the recent history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion No; that is not all that is claimed. By describing them as philosophers you put them in opposition to religion, thereby claiming that philosophy and religion they are mutually exclusive. Which is patently false. And if they are not mutually exclusive then describing them just philosophers and not religious philosophers is false as well. this particular master is fictitious but there are many such cases in historical sources exactly. In all of the human history religion predates 'philosophy' by thousands of years. Religion is documented in China long before 'the philosophical classics'. Claiming that the classics were corrupted into a religion or they are somehow isolated from religion is simply meaningless.
  9. Is this forum still about Taoism...?

    as usual there is not a single logical argument, only insults;) of course it is. because those who use that term never define it. what does it even mean? that the historical Lao-zi or Zhuang-zi were atheists or something? or they do not refer to religious rites in their books?
  10. Is this forum still about Taoism...?

    may be some value for the chosen ones;) those were written to save the gullible from the neidan-peddlers during the Great Neidan War of 2017 (? i dont remember exactly), since then the peddlers moved on to push used cars, ionizers and penny stocks, taking with them the value of my notes. Did you notice that thankfully we never see any neidan posts for quite a long time? The neidan fad is dead which is wonderful. Yippeei! On the other hand it was so hilariously farcical...hehe;)
  11. Is this forum still about Taoism...?

    it never was. it was always new-age masquerading as 'taoism', a post-modern simulacrum, a fad (with the exception of my posts and a couple of transient chinese people's) no, good riddance to the fad again that was never an option. not only because the others do not know what taoism (or buddhism) is but also because you (or them) would not accept the truth about what those teachings really are. of course you are always welcome to ask me;)
  12. Is Buddhism a complete path?

    but he is, right?
  13. Levitating Taoist Refuses to Kneel and Acknowledge New Emperor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heshang_Gong
  14. was? was that before or after this the idealistic explanation is because these are the later times of kali-yuga. the materialistic one is because of the hydrocarbs based diet. either way les jeux sont faits; rien ne va plus
  15. because its one shingle body of bodily qi behind them. its like a sea tide, when the tide rises it is anger; when the tide ebbs it is sadness. but it is the same seawater, the same qi lots of ways: exercise, diet, fasting, massage you know ppl talk about doing qigong all the time but when asked whats the point of doing it - all you get is a blank stare. and some anger hehe;)
  16. lets say i live in barbie land where nothing bad ever happened to me, hence no bad emotions, yet i have an inborn stagnating liver - then i will still have outbursts when the liver overflows even though there was no original trauma a real rage is caused by a direct external cause. an outburst of qi has none except an innate liver defect. E.g Tourrets syndrome not quite. the physiological qi is insulated from the psychological qi, otherwise the body would not be able to function being disrupted by emotions all the time she clutched her liver, others clutch pearls, yet others get red in the face, some suffer a stroke etc. The somatic response varies. Think this way: two apparently similar persons are exposed to a similar emotional stimuli. Why are their reactions different? correct, thats the common explanation, sufficient for the general audience, which never asks why the liver? why not the lungs or the heart?
  17. since the commenters miss the point by a mile, i will explain. yours is a typical case of liver stagnation whereas an inborn energetic defect in the liver causes the qi to accumulate in the liver. When the liver is filled to capacity, the stagnant qi bursts forth in the moment of calm, causing an emotional-looking reaction which is not a real emotion. Instead it is a physiological reaction caused by the stagnated liver qi bursting to the surface. It is a symptom of a liver energy issue. It has nothing to do with meditation, repressed emotions, rage, past-life traumas etc yada yada Can be rectified by a number of modalities of which tcm drugs / acupuncture are the least effective
  18. How does it work?

    just FYI since your wondered
  19. How does it work?

    hey man. i approve of your enthusiasm. what you were proposing earlier is qigong . nothing wrong with qigong. its a nice pastime with placebo benefits. its just not alchemy. as to explaining alchemy, it is a tricky thing. first of all maybe 10 men in the whole world can do it, and of them probably only i can explain it in reasonable terms. of course i am not going to do it publicly. second of all when alchemy is reasonably explained peeps flat out refuse to understand it. They can understand it. They just dont want to. Here is the beginning work, see if you want to
  20. Jing Replenishment: The Rooted Path Revelation

    the mothership is calling them home
  21. Can jing be replenished?

    means the guru answers no free questions. these topics are available for extra fee after much stringing-on. Of course not. Because making the MCO a goal (heck making anything a goal) would make the guru accountable if the student will not reach the goal (and no student ever will, of course). Hence no goals, just chill. kumbayah
  22. Can jing be replenished?

    i am sure they did but judging by the interwebs they tout the orbit WLP: http://longmenpai.blogspot.com/2008/06/1995-channel-small-heavenly-orbit.html ZTJ: Classes Master Zhou Ting Jue http://www.masterzhou.com › classes COME TO CLASS WITH CASH OR CHECK MADE OUT TO: "ZHOU TING-JUE." ALL STUDENTS ... Level 2, Intermediate Qi Gong, teaches how to move energy in a small orbit ...
  23. could someone translate this for me?

    you did fine given the this is a well known phrase 紫气东来 zǐ qì dōng lái The Purple Qi comes from the east -- a propitious omen of Lao-zi's arrival (and departure to the west)