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  1. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    You will find these things are shaped by our health. I see this often in clinic, people come and just by how they act and talk, how they express themselves, you already know which organs have issues. Once you fix their organs, their personality and viewpoints change too, it's quite amazing to witness. Many don't have the chance to see these things so they don't know, they just repeat things they heard from others who also don't know. Knowledge is too often hearsay that someone thought sounded reasonable to them and adopted this into their way of thinking, speaking of these things as fact,when in truth, they are just something you heard or read somewhere. No real evidence behind what they say, but they say them with authority.
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    This is so true. People don't realize the relationship between the mind and the body. The mind and emotions are completely controlled by the function of the organs. An issue in the organs will result in a specific issue in the mind. This is common knowledge in TCM but I remember when we learned this in university, most of my classmates just wrote it off as nonsense. When the organs become strong, qi and blood flow unobstructed, then the mind becomes the same. A peace and contentment that just comes naturally. We all know people like this, they are just happy, don't stress about things but are organised and motivated in their lives. Check their health and you will find their health is of a very good level. The opposite is true too. If you find yourself short of temper, incessantly thinking about sex, depressed for no real reason, then no amount of therapy will help. A good TCM doctor can help, you mind will just become calm all by itself as the body heals. Many men in their 40s think having a strong sex drive is a sign of good health, I laughed for quite a long time when i heard this. The kidneys become deficient, sex drive goes up and you cause them to become more deficient, before you know it you look old before your time. I am much more interested in health and healing than I am in teaching qigong, I don't think I will ever teach qigong, just not my cup of tea, but helping people live healthier lives (it includes helping them see their current practice isn't helping them as much as they thought) is what inspires me.
  3. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    I don't mind you asking at all. I have been told what they are but they aren't things to discuss on a forum, I don't do them yet. I am waiting for my teacher to deem me ready (This includes many things, not just qi development) to teach me the higher level practices. The lower dantian and qi are considered basic practices, even the point of emitting qi is considered low level practices, not even worth talking about in many traditions. Considered the foundation required to really start internal development.
  4. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    I believe if you understood the nature of the mind and how it related to the organs and energy flow you would not make this statement. Especially not as it pertains to qi and dantian development. Buddhism is known to ignore the physical body and in turn results in many many struggling to make any progress. But I am sure you know better. If it were you, but it's not. It's easy to say what you would do when you have a million dollars too, but you don't. Those without experience often talk of what they would do if they had this or that. The reality that faces you when you do achieve these things are always different to what you believed them to be. Diluting a practice so that the many can attempt to do them is no different than the lineage failing. We see this everywhere, so many systems teach diluted, half truthed practices to develop the dantian and qi, yet none make any progress. I would say this is a failure in itself. Worse than this, people think these diluted practices are the real practices, forever stuck in a cycle of not making any progress. Ignorance is the worst thing possible. Thinking you know better doesn't make it so. I am not here to argue, answered a question that was posed. The arguments ensued when people didn't like what they heard. They want a participation trophy, no two ways about it. If you want to develop your dantian and qi, then you either do it properly or you don't. Coming here with Buddhist philosophy or Indian prana philosophy is trolling in my opinion. Nothing to do with the dantians, so I could ask the few who did the same thing. If you are so advanced, if you know so much, why lower yourself to online forums, why try and push your irrelevant knowledge onto people. So many people come to china, learn for 3-5 years then go back and teach what they learned as a complete system. They write books and sell online courses. They barely learned the basics but sell it as a complete system. Then someone who spend more than 3 years here, learned more than just the basics call them out, tell them they are a bit lost if they think what they are teaching is anything like the real practices, will lead to any of the actual results expected. This is especially relevant for taiji. Go to wuhan, learn taiji for 3 months or 6 months then back to your country to open a dojo (or watever the taiji equivalent is) and teach taiji calling themselves shifu. Someone who then spent 15 years at wuhan, stayed long enough to learn the internal practices too, say what those people are teaching are all but worthless in developing taiji, then are trolls? Seems about right to me. But I get it, it's about the ego, telling someone they failed hurts their feelings. Telling someone they are wasting their time hurts their feelings. They'd rather live in the bubble thinking what they are doing is the real stuff. And truthfully, i don't really mind these people. The people that try and give advice and act like they are achieved become a problem, the ones giving advice on forums, the worst advise anyone looking to achieve some results can receive. Ofcourse they know better, ofcourse they have developed dantians and qi, it's easy, just 3 months of practice and bam, dantian development done, now you start with the middle dantian lol.
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    This I think is forgotten by most people nowadays. They want to do qigong, they want to do neigong, but want to do it at their own pace. Each practice is there for a specific reason, each practice has a very specific result, which must be achieved before you can move onto the next. People forget this, they dabble in this, want to move on to the more advanced practices before their time, don't understand the reason for the practices in the first place. Each practice has a specific goal, and you must hit this goal before you can move on. The way it works in an authentic lineage is like this. You are taught a practice, not told why you are doing it, but told to do it for as long as required. Your teacher will then evaluate your practice as time goes by. If he finds that you have achieved the desired result, then you will be taught the next practice to do. In many cases there is a test to pass, some method developed to see if you have attained the desired result. ONLY THEN can you move onto the next practice, ONLY THEN are you taught the next practice. The length of time you are to spend on this practice is influenced by many factors, your health, your dedication, YOUR HEALTH (said it twice for a reason). People do not realize that the state of your health will hugely influence the rate at which you progress. It can DOUBLE or TRIPPLE the time required to achieve the desired results of any given stage. Might even stop you achieving them altogether in which case your teacher needs to treat your health issues, or you won't get anywhere at all. This is a large amount of students btw, most are not healthy enough to succeed in developing and filling the dantain when they first show up. A good 80% of people won't ever get to the point of emitting qi without getting their health sorted out first, they are wasting their time. Building the dantian and qi is hugely influenced by kidney health. If you have kidney deficiency, you can expect to take AT LEAST TWICE AS LONG as people who have healthy kidneys though without any assistance from your teacher, you might never succeed. So, please tell me, how many teachers out there who are teaching dantian development and qi development, test whether or not you have achieved the required result before telling you that you can move on? I would hazard a guess that this number is very very low. Almost all teaching this don't have any dantian development themselves, how will they be evaluating your progress, how would they even know to evaluate your progress when theirs was never evaluated. There is no such thing as doing this practice for 1 month, then moving onto the next, then after 3 months moving onto the next one. You need to achieve the desired result for the practice you were doing before moving onto the next. People always go on about the need for electric qi, the need for qi emission. This is why it's done, to test students, to see if they achieved the desired results before moving on. It's done in stages. First you activate the dantian, once this is done, you then start to fill it. When it's got a certain amount of qi in it, you are tested, required to emit this qi into another person. If you can do it, then you have achieved the desired result. Now, you can have a practice added, one on top of the first, which helps you to learn how to pull your qi from the dantian into your channels. Later, you are tested again, now you should be able to emit qi into more people because you should have more and your ability to pull qi out of the dantian has improved. Now you have another practice added, you now do 3 in a row, build qi in the dantian, pull the qi out and fill the meridians, and the new practice is now doing something new. You get tested at this stage and then another practice is added. Eventually, years later, you have now done all you need to have balanced qi, a well formed full dantian and open channels. Now you are required to emit qi without any help. If you can do this, then you are ready to move onto the other dantians. Why is it done this way? Not because emitting qi is cool, not because it's about power, it's done because you require these skills to be able to work on the higher level practices. The higher practices are fueled by qi, which means you need the ability to draw your qi form you dantian into your meridians to fuel the practice you are doing. I cannot explain it any better than this. If people still don't understand why I say they aren't getting anywhere with their current methods if their teachers aren't able to emit qi, then I give up lol.
  6. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    It does sound really interesting. But sadly yes, the only way to really know is to meet. One thing that has put me off these kind of practices is the fact that they don't work on everyone, a non believer would be unaffected. Does this hold true for your jin emissions? Not trap or trying to trick you, I am geniunly interested to hear. I know of one taiji school, here in china, who develop dantians and qi to the same extent that our school does. There are some individual schools who have retained the knowledge, sadly, most don't, but they still think they do which is why we are having this conversation and thread. Your school might be an exception, who knows.
  7. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Jhana is exactly the same in my opinion. You either achieve jhana or you don't. If you don't fully achieve the jhanic state, then you haven't achieved it. Saying you have is just deluding yourself is it not? Basketball isn't quite the right simile here, but you are putting enthisis (can't spell it lol) on the wrong thing. Having a dantian, full and open channels is the same as having a body for these basketball players, their ability to play basketball is similar to the various degrees at which people are able to emit qi. Without their body, none of them can play basketball, without your dantian you can't emit qi as it should be. There are many layers of emitting qi, many more advanced methods than electric qi, but electric is the base, the first level, after that there are 3 more levels of varying difficulty. This is standard throughout authentic taoist schools. This is standard in other non-taoist schools too, most people on here have just never had the chance to visit lineages scattered throughout china to see this for themselves. If you want to compare it to something then you should compare it with something that is an absolute. Something that is black and white. Though I would have thought the jhanas as black and white, you either enter them or you don't. No inbetween really.
  8. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Someone who disagrees with me, disagrees with what i said about dantian and qi development, would you mind answering the following? How do 10 different people from 10 different schools all develop the dantian and fill it with qi, yet have 10 different outcomes? Same dantian, same qi, different results. Some schools only spend a few months working on the dantian and others spend many years. Do they achieve the same thing? Is 3 months just as good at 6 years. Will you have the same results? Both say their dantians are developed and filled, but surely this can't be. One of them has to be wrong in their statement, because both can't be right.
  9. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    In all instances I was specifically referring to developing and filling your dantian, not referring to any practice or school as nonsense or false. Most teachers don't have a clue how to develop and fill the dantian with qi, most schools cannot achieve this. Doesn't mean I inferred the schools or teachers were useless. They just can't develop the dantian with their methods, their methods to develop and fill the dantian was being spoken about. But you seem to be taking it quite personally, why is that?
  10. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    I love this, this is a thread about the dantian, how to feel it, and in turn develop it. Why do people ask questions and then when someone actually tells them the correct process, what actually happens, they get uptight about it. You want to hear the lies, you want a participation trophy. Meditation in most instances is good for you. But if you are trying to develop your dantian and your qi, then there is only one correct way, one way that generates the results you are supposed to get. I know there are hundreds of different schools, and hundreds of different methods, but they don't quite get the results you are meant to get do they? And because they don't get the results spoken about in the authentic writings, people start to believe the results they get are all you can get, or what you are supposed to get. I don't understand the mindset. If there are 100 different methods, and 100 different schools all have different abilities, then surely there is something wrong no? If they all develop the dantian and qi, yet all have wildly different results, something isn't quite right. Isn't this logical to people? Surely the logical mindset is that you develop the dantian and your qi, that everyone will end up with the same results? If you don't all get the same results, then some are getting the wrong results? Everyone can't be right surely? Develop the dantian, fill it with qi, the end result should be the same for everyone. We all are working with the same dantian and the same qi no? Or do some people work with a different kind of dantian, maybe there are 50 different kinds of dantians, and maybe there are 50 different kinds of qi, so you can have hundreds of different end results. It's a bit absurd no? Kind of like following a recipe but all ending up with a different dish.... how does this work? Same dantian, same qi, should get the same results.
  11. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Never said what anyone does is nonsense or false, just said it's not going to lead to the results you are meant to see when working with the dantian and in another instance said what he does and what we do are not the same thing. Curious how you read nonsense and false?
  12. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Most of this forum see electric qi as something out of a book. If i start talking about the abilities that come from developing the middle and upper dantian I would sound crazy to most. But I know how utterly unbelievable things become, which is why I can safely say that very few even come close to developing the middle and upper dantians despite their belief that they do. The dantian is just an area, a place until you cultivate it, so yes, I guess you can say we view it in a similar way.
  13. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    I do not know this school, sorry. It's not a doctor thing, it's whats meant to happen when you activate and develop the dantian. Just happens to be extremely useful when used along with acupuncture and herbs. Increases the effect of treatment exponentially. But, if you are on the dantian path, then this is what is supposed to happen. You need this qi to fuel the higher level practices. If you don't reach this stage you can never reach any higher level stages. You know so many people who skip developing the dantian properly because they don't have the methods or teacher to get there. They do however move onto the other dantians and higher practices but never really develop anything that is meant to happen. They don't know what is meant to happen either and this is why they can get away with it. Just apply what they have achieved and make it fit with what is written. Once in a blue moon, normally in dantian development threads, and I try to explain to people the real process, but normally I am met with hostility and arguments. So, i get fed up and disappear for a year before I come back and try again. I geniunely want to help people, I don't teach or advertise my school, just want to help those who were like me, desperately wanting to learn the real practices but not knowing how. I also learned from books, learned from local teachers, lived in a bubble thinking I was making progress. Read a step by step book on Daiost development and made what I experienced fit with that was written in the books. Now when I look at the books, things make sooo much more sense, because I am no longer trying to make what I experience fit with that is written, what is written just makes perfect sense based on what I experience. So, emitting qi, it's just something you can do, just a byproduct of correct training. You don't have to do it and unless you are helping students develop or treating patients, otherwise you are just wasting qi for no benefit to anyone. Better to keep your qi and use it for the next stages of practice. A good example is this. About 2 or 3 years ago, I was doing my practice and all of a sudden my dantian/stomach began to move, it would contract and expand very physically, a good 2-3 inches of movement. Looked like a balloon inflating and deflating, just kept going like that and my mind jumped to how my dantian is now so full it's pulsing, expanding, I am soo good, have so much qi now. Truth is I had a blockage and too much damp qi, this wasn't happening as a sign of development, but a sign of a problem. Another time I started to get burning in my laogong points, bright red marks appeared on both hands and felt like I had acid on those points. Again, mind jumped to how full my dantian is, how strong my qi is, how my middle dantian had started to activate. Truth again was an issue in my meridian flow, this was happening not because of something good, but because of something negative. Not a sign of anything positive. The reason I thought these were both positive, is because I read about them in books, or heard about them on forums or people in lineages I believed were high level, they were classed as signs of achievement, signs of doing well. When you consult you teacher and he laughs for 3 mins straight and explains the real reason this is happening, then you slowly realize what is truth and what is just made up stories of those who don't understand. We all go through this process of trying to make sense of things, trying to understand. I started the exact same spot as everyone else, was just lucky enough to be able to travel and seek out teachers. When i come here, I don't come to argue, but to help explain away the wrong beliefs that will hold people back. Unfortunately it normally turns into arguments because others refuse to be laughed at for 3 mins straight, they never learn which beliefs are total nonsense and which are true. If you don't learn which beliefs are wrong and which are right, you can never improve your practice, you will never achieve anything. In fact, quite a few schools list signs of development and people are so happy when they achieve them. The reality is these are signs of deviation, but they don't know. Slowly over time, not only are they not developing their dantians and qi, they are making themselves sicker and sicker. It will take a good 10-20 years before the damage becomes so great it turns to serious disease, but it will come. People then just brush it off as age related, it's normal to start to develop issues in your 40s and 50s, people just accept it but never wonder if there isn't a way to be healthy and not have these issues.
  14. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    It's dangerous if you don't listen to your teachers advice and don't respect your limitations. When you faqi, you drain more than just your qi, your blood gets drained too. When you push yourself can easily get to the point where you collapse and can be in real trouble then. You develop this just like you develop your qi. First time you faqi one person, next time 2-3, next time 5, next time 8 and then you get a feel for what you can do(This takes years, not days or months). You get a feel for your capacity, qi levels and when you need a break. Constantly faqi, no break inbetween, there are limits to what you can do. I did a big jump (quadrupled the amount of people), thought I was going to die afterwards, couldn't really walk, legs jelly and shaking, wanted to throw up, felt super dizzy, had blurred vision, was genuinely scared. Was with my teacher though and somewhat felt safe cause I knew if something went badly wrong he would help. He just laughed at me and asked me why i was being so stupid, he said you know how this works, why would you just faqi and keep faqiing person after person without a break. He said he was just sat there waiting for me to collapse. In hindsight kinda funny, but faqi is not games, you can really cause damage to yourself. If you know your limits, then it's fine, however, teacher said do not faqi when you are not with me, so I don't. No point not listening to those who know better than you.
  15. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Happy to share. I can faqi on my own, but most of the time my teacher does my channels first. Makes it easier on me and less draining on my qi, so I am always happy if my teacher wants to help first. Also, if he says come over here let me open your channels so you can faqi, you don't argue, you do as your as asked. When my channels are opened, qi flows smoother, less qi is wasted and you can do more patients. I am by no means a master, but not a beginner either. Practice is such a small part of developing qi. Health and healthy living is the most important factor there is. Qigong will not fix your health by itself. You can do the most advanced practices in the world, if you are not in good health, you won't get anywhere and the practices won't improve your health either. Your lifestyle needs to change for the better along with daily qigong to really start having it improve, and depending on how bad it was, can take years or even decades to recover. My daily practice is short, about 20-30 min a day, I have a range of practices that I do, some time spent accumulating qi in the dantian, some spent bringing qi out of the dantian, balancing yin and yang in the body. No need to spend 3 hours a day, guys who tried this took way longer than me to reach the first stage where you can faqi with help. Takes your body a long time to develop qi, takes a long time to progress, years, not months, and more than 30 mins just didn't help the guys who did it so I never saw a point in trying to overdo it. In the first few years you don't do all this this, most of your time is spent gathering qi into the dantian. It's a process and you add practices as you go (when you teacher evaluates you and decides you are ready), but you can't skip the first part and you can't add practices if you don't have a dantian, you won't get anywhere. There is no point. Also, no teacher, no point unless you are only doing this for a small health benefit. If your goal is to develop the dantian, develop qi, then you 100% require a teacher, not having one is wasting your time.
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    I will share a funny story with you guys. A few years back, maybe 5 or 6, was visiting a fairly well known teacher who could emit qi. A few guys showed up on the trip, they had been doing the stolen mp practices and were part of the dedicated mp group. Each had been training an hour a day and been training for 2-4 years each. They came up to the teacher super confident, ready to be checked. He evaluated their health, had some minor deficiencies, nothing major, some blockages, quite common these days for most people. Then they asked one by one, what about my dantian, what about my qi? The teacher kinda giggled, confused look on his face, asked them what qi? There is nothing here, no dantian, no qi. Angry they sat in the back mumbling to each other. Over a few days their moods improved, they accepted that they wasted their time and was finally here with a teacher who could do what they hoped to achieve, so gave it their all. I became quite close with one and we talk every now and again. About 3-4 years later, one of them finally managed to accumulate enough qi in his dantian to get to try to emit this qi with assistance. Channels are opened for you, making it easier to do. He succesfully emitted qi, only a short 3 second burst of electric current and he was empty, but he did it. I asked him later on, what the difference was in his practice. At first he did quiet sitting practice with focus on the dantian for an hour a day, no channels opened, dantian could not develop but he didn't know this. On the first trip mentioned above, his channels were opened, allowing him to skip the 3 years of horrible mabu and immediately start to develop the dantian. I asked, did things feel any different when you trained? Before and the past few years. He said no, things felt exactly the same. He had the same kind of sensations in the dantian after coming and actually being able to develop a dantian that he had before when he was effectively wasting his time. The sensations most of you experience in the lower abdomen has nothing to do with a dantian. I know many desperately want to believe they are working with their dantians and can feel their dantians, but you can't. It's not there, you are just feeling random sensations created by intense focus, breathing, increased blood flow, stretching of the abdominal muscles, blockages, etc. I wait for those who come to argue, I know there are so many who will angrily tell me they have dantians, they can feel them, they can emit qi. Yes, but can you emit qi that will effect everyone, make their muscles contract? Whether they believe or don't believe in qi, whether they are focussed or thinking about gummy bears while you are trying to emit qi. The answer will be no for every single one of you, so, maybe, just maybe, you are not correct in your thinking.
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    You replenish most of your qi just by resting and eating. To go to maximum amount (for yourself based on what stage you are at) you do meditation every day too. Don't need hours either, a quick 20-30 mins will fully replenish you, given that you have had good food and got enough sleep the previous day. I am referring to after you emitted qi into patients, the electric stuff everyone always goes crazy about, everyone wants, but no ones listens when you give them the answers they don't want to hear. I'll try again. You cannot feel your dantian or even develop it without a teacher guiding you. Most teachers out there don't have a clue unfortunately. The only way to really develop your dantian, is to go and find a lineage and master where they are able to emit qi. You want to be able to emit the super strong electric qi, then you need a teacher who can do it. Makes sense no? You need help to open your channels in the beginning, or you will waste your time. You can do the correct methods, if channels were not opened/adjusted for you, you will not develop your dantian. While you are developing the dantian, you will not feel anything like you read in the books. You will barely feel anything in the dantian. Over time you will feel more and more in your meridians, dense electric qi will fill your arms and legs when you train, but your dantian will have very little sensation. You are just aware of it, similar to how you are aware of your hands. Once the dantian is developed to a certain degree, which means it contains a certain amount of qi, condensed into a region, not scattered throughout your abodomen, then you can start to try to emit it. For this, in this stage you need a teacher, who can enlarge your channels/ open your channels temporarily as they are not sufficiently open yet to emit the qi you have gathered. Later, to progress further, your teacher is the one enlarging your channels, your teacher is the one who helps you progress. No teacher, no progress. This is reality, this is how you progress, this is how you feel and develop your dantian. It's not what people want to hear, so they argue, they claim they develop the same abilities from who knows what. It's just not true. You guys always to know the secret method, you want to know how to be like famous masters, yet you don't listen when you are told how to go about it. The dantian, it does not exist, it's not there. You have to cultivate it, you CANT do this just by focussing on the stomach, letting your qi sink into your stomach, guarding the dantian, watching your breath, you are wasting your time. First you need your channels opened, or know how to open them yourself. It's a really horrible form of mabu, which i have never seen anywhere else, which does it if you don't have a teacher. it requires 3 years of doing this mabu to open the channels required for dantian development to even happen in the first place. Just breathing into the stomach is a wonderful exercise for health, no saying anything bad about it, BUT, IT WILL NOT DEVELOP A DANTIAN. I know people will argue with me, they always do. But before you argue, ask yourself. Can you emit this qi, have you ever felt this qi, have you ever met anyone who can emit this qi? If the answer is no, then you do not know better than the person who is able to... PS. I hate having to say this qi, or electric qi. For me it's just qi, it's whats supposed to happen over time if you are dedicated and have a teacher. Unfortunately very few public teachers/schools have this knowledge, the ones that do, stay out of the spotlight. Most schools, go back a few hundred years, all developed the same thing, many just got diluted over the years and lost the knowledge. We saw this happen with the school that must not be named. The only one who could emit qi was kicked out, and the rest just had theory, and words, but none could do it. In a few generations electric qi will just be a legend in their school, a story told but not something that was true.
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    Not talking about this at all, maybe Dwai is. This works on students and those who believe, but some random non believer from the street, some MMA fighter, it doesn't work. The qi cultivation from from taoist practices can be felt any onyone, regardless of what they believe or what they did before.
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    It's used to enhance treatment. The man in the video is a doctor, mainly treats patients and uses his qi for this purpose. Truth be told, most who can faqi, not the stuff dwai is sharing, the powerful electric qi, is used by chinese medicine doctors. I can't think of one lineage or master who can do this that isn't a doctor and uses it to treat patients.
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    Really sorry, but this can't even be called similar to what you can do when you develop Neidan. What they are doing are completely different things. One requires belief and cooperation, lest you feel nothing. The other requires nothing, you will feel it. But you are allowed to think what you do and what neidan does are the same, doesn't make you right.
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    Was more referring to it being used on me. I feel a whole lot during meditation, couldn't say what is responsible for what though.
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    Never said what you don't do is geniune, no matter what system, they do have benefits. They just aren't all the same, though you would expect them to be. I live in china, but travel often, might be in the US a few times next year, will see how things go. I know the abilities that your system develops though, I have come across it a few times, so i know it's not the same. Something real yes, no doubt about it, not the same as the stuff an authentic neidan school develops, but again, it's ok, you seem to have also met a few authentic neidan masters so can easily and without any hesitance say it's the same.
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    Not that hard to do ay? Everything besides this seems reasonable. Doesn't matter, i'll pop over to a seminar one day, come experience it for myself. No point discussing it anymore, you can't convince me and your ego won't even consider that it's not the same. But Forestofemptyness kind of made it clear. Not everyone experienced the same thing, not everyone experienced the same intensity. That to me says it's not the same. Qi is savagely strong with neidan, no matter if you are sensitive to it or not, it bends you out of shape, it almost hurts at low amounts and definitely hurts at higher amounts. Everyone experiences the exact same thing and everyone is equally mindblown afterwards. Doesn't quite sound like this is the case there. Not saying what you do isn't real, just not the same.
  24. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Yang qi by itself is hot, yin by itself, actually I have no idea, never felt yin by itself. Electric is equal, or roughly equal amounts of yin and yang. Without the yin the yang won't flow outside the body. Especially when you are doing contactless emission. Best not to worry too much about yin and yang, most systems should have a balance of practices to ensure you cultivate both equally.
  25. How to find the lower dan tian ?

    Truth be told, if the right knowledge was in the west, we woudn't have a need for electric qi, we would just say qi. Glad you found your teacher, still don't think your system develops neidan. Truthfully, can the advanced students easily emit qi? feel like an electric current? if they can then I will shut up, but if it's not a normal thing for students to develop, then we can safely assume what you call dantian development isn't really internal or energetic, more muscular as it is for every other Taiji master/student/adept that I have come across. There have been many actually. Not trying to badmouth your system though, please don't misunderstand. Just gota accept that what you do and what taoist systems do are not the same.