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Hi guys, I haven't been on here for a long time but thought i would pop in and get some opinions. Many of you know that I have been in china for a long time, searching out authentic practices and schools and learning all i can from these masters/places. Many of them not known in the west and all of them only speaking chinese. I am considering teaching some authentic practices for the first time. The real methods for activating the dantian and cultivating qi that is tangible and in my opinion the fuel source for all higher qigong/neigong/neidan practices. All the time i have been here the one thing that bothered me was the secrecy and costs involved to learn these practices. I have always wanted to do things in a way that made them accessible to everyone without gimmicks, without secrecy and without worrying that you are wasting your time with someone who isn't intending on ever teaching you all the way. This unfortunately happens way too often with a basic outdoor practice being taught for years while milking people for cash. This happens most of the time. So, i was thinking of doing a zoom meeting, teaching 4-6 hours over 2 days and teaching the actual practices that I myself did and still do to this day. They are real, authentic practices for developing the dantian and filling it with highly refined qi. The next stage of teaching will cost the same, I won't be increasing prices over time as you get to the higher practices. I also want to create a monthly subscription for those who wish to keep practicing with me with easy access to ask questions. Only those who attended either a zoom meeting/in person meeting and are part of the monthly payment group will be allowed to come for the second, third and fourth level practices, but I think this would make sense as you cannot skip the first practice. It will take a good 5-10 years of practice to develop the dantian and qi to the level where you can start to emit it by yourself so please do not expect a new practice and level every few weeks of having finished the first stage in a few weeks ready to move onto the next. What you will learn i still practice every day and is the main method for replenishing dantian qi if you have been emitting it all day (mostly for treatment, I am a TCM doctor). There will also come a time when meeting in person will be required to adjust and open channels for students who made good progress but these meetings will also be reasonably priced. For the zoom meeting and teaching I was thinking $300 a person and those who wish to keep practicing with me and have access to a group I was thinking $50 a month (something like a wattsapp group). This means the following stages will also cost $300 and if we are meeting in person once corona is finished will keep prices as close to $300 as possible with increases only to cover expenses. """"" After some consideration and feedback I think it would be better to just charge $500 per seminar, no monthly fee but the wechat group will be made and kept for a while to allow questions and review and will be completely optional. This way people can learn to whichever level they want without any long term commitement. """"" I am only offering to teach up to the level where you develop the ability to emit qi (the wonderful electric qi everyone either wants or thinks is fake). I can also comfortably say that most won't get there because lets be honest, how many non chinese/asian in the whole world do you know who can do it? Then again, no one who could do it ever offered to teach it in this way so who knows. So, there are 4 stages of practice that will be taught, 1-3 within the first 2 years and the last one when you dantian is brimming with qi and you are ready to learn to emit it out of your body. Health will be the deciding factor in how well you develop, however, I don't plan on offering any treatment because this is the main complaint about how Dr Jiang Feng did things. I really wanted to ask peoples opinion on here because many here have practiced with many different schools, different teachers and I want to do things differently, do them right. PS. I would discourage people who do reiki or similar practices from doing neigong like this, they aren't compatible. If you do wish to learn neigong, you have to stick to it and leave reiki/similar practices behind. I injured myself really badly because this wasn't ever explained.

No apology or acknowledgment of jumping the gun for your misunderstanding and subsequent undeserved "aggression" towards me earlier?

Yes, you are correct in what you are saying but you are referring to pattern differentiation here. Terms like spleen qi deficiency or lung qi deficiency are primarily accepted as function. Spleen qi deficiency and qi are different things though. Lunq qi deficiency and Kong qi are not the same thing. Same with stomach qi deficiency and gu qi.

How would qi be a function though? Many things in tcm are functions and substance combined into one term, like yuanqi, or jing, but qi, how would qi be a function. It's like calling petrol a function, or the gas and heat released from combustion a function.

That is my point, they won't find anything that has not been previously discovered or known, they will just realize we lacked the proper understanding to put TCM theory and physiology together. Qi is a thing though, not a function, A good example is zhenqi and xieqi, they refer to very specific things, not function. Even if the things are technically the same but slightly different, again, one day this will make sense I am sure.

It does, you just don't know physiology well enough to be able to tell. Yes, though we very very rarely generate sparks, it happens by accident sometimes. Finally, someone who is saying the right thing. People want to make neigong/neidan this magical thing full of unknown substances and energies when this isn't the case. You can find the western equivalent of every single term used in tcm, people just don't want to do the homework and want someone else to put it together for them. Study tcm theory, then study physiology in depth and some medium level physics, you will see what I mean. Some really interesting developments in the study of electrons. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7736361/ https://news.stanford.edu/2015/11/24/cryptography-quantum-tangle-112415/ https://www.princeton.edu/news/2011/07/18/scientists-shed-light-private-lives-electrons This is especially interesting https://irenaroglic.si/wp-content/uploads/slo/znanclanki/electron.htm Sadly you still expect qi to be some magical uknown particle, it isn't, we just call it something else, many of the qi phenomena have been studied by fringe scientists for years, people just don't put things together because different terminology has been used. Tesla and rife and so many others. So many in internal arts hide behind these vague chinese terms to give what we do some sense of wonder and magic. This hurts it to be honest. Study the physiological changes that happens to free divers and if you let go of the magic of internal arts, it becomes quite mundane and logical really. What we are doing, how it works, why it works, what qi is, why it affects us. Again, people wana be spoonfed and argue online about things they know almost nothing about, which is physiology, physics and biology. Here is a nice study about freediving and the bodies ability to adapt. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2021.639377/full One about the effects of qigong on the body, simple enough, yet some key stats provide all the proof you guys are constantly asking for. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5902057/

Ok, so we agree that the human body does generate substantial amounts of electricity or voltage potential every single second. And we also agree that storing up energy isn't controvertial. So why is specialized breathing practices to harness this energy and store it such a big deal for people to accept as being possible? Ironically, I did do a medical degree, the only difference between my course and that of a western doctor is we didn't study pharmacology, did herbology instead. The lower dantian or gut, we don't have to guess, we know where the energy is stored and drawn from. The generation of the energy being stored is the nerves and muscles, there is no unknown function, the only unknown is how this additional energy is moved and stored, which is something I have said many times over the years, via activating the function of the dantian which is achieved by altering the flow of one of the meridians. No one believed me then and many still don't, that is why they so ferociously fight to condemn what we do as being impossible. It's pretty obvious you are generating and storing energy (electrical energy) once the dantian function is active. Not really, I can likely dig up some studies which measured the cells capacity to store energy and the bodies ability to conduct energy and how that differs in individuals and especially in monks who have been doing meditation from a young age. I've never once in my life claimed to be able to do this.

I was doing it ironically, I was making fun of the people who were giving their opinions as facts in previous posts..... It's why i put FACT in capital letters and made it bold, to highlight how opinions are not facts.

Which know laws of physics are making what we do impossible. Serious question, please explain to me which laws of physics are being broken by being able to store up energy and emit it?

I've already confirmed we will be doing such controlled demonstrations, with a stage magician who is a complete skeptic present. If not for covid we would have done it already. I have no issue with people being around checking whatever they need to check with me prior to doing a demo. I have never had an issue with it lol all the anger and negativity in this thread from the sceptics has been completely unwarranted really. I just want to do it anonymously. What I have an issue with is when you do it and they still don't accept it and then have more and more ridiculous demands because they refuse to accept they were wrong.

I am sorry but a precedent has been set. I can state facts and you are not allowed to give any counter argument because that would be excuses and no one may stand up for you, lest they be considered delusional cultists/victims of your hypnotic powers. You look decades younger than your age and you never get sick and that is it, and I think that is just the tip of the iceberg when you read my story below. For your research you say. But something you said did catch my eye, something a monk in a cave in the Himalayas told me about a few months before covid locked the whole world down. I never told this story to anyone but I am convinced you are the man he was talking about. I travelled to a small town near the mountains, I had heard of a monk who lived in a cave, deep in mediation and has been there for about 400 years according to the locals. I asked the locals where I could find him and they drew me a map, for a donation ofcourse. The hike would be about 20 miles but I was determined to meet this mystic. I gathered my supplies, made sure I had everything I need including a small medical kit and flashlight and set off along the small trail. I finally reached the cave and peered inside, saw nothing but ventured deeper and deeper. About 50 meters in, there were these strange glowing crystals, giving off a beautiful white light. Another 10 meters, i hit a corner, went around it and there was a biggish opening with a monk, sat in full lotus position deep in meditation. He looks like he was in his 20s with perfectly smooth skin, was clean shaven (no long grey beard as I expected) and short hair, his clothes were spotless and he was levitating about 3 feet from the ground. As i walked closer he opened his eyes, looked me straight in the eyes and called me by my name, saying that he had been expecting me. If not for the fact that he was levitating, I would have figured it was all fake, I mean, he looked young and was clean shaven. He told me I could ask him 5 questions and then I had to be on my way. He made it clear that I would not be able to find him again on this plane of existence and all I had were 5 questions and this single time to engage with him. I asked about his appearance. He said that when you reach a high enough level, you can affect matter and biology directly. He instructed his beard and hair to grow as he desired and also made the crystals on the cave walls grow to emit light. His youthful appearance he said was because of a stone, he showed me the stone and allowed me to hold it. It was reddish purple, looked like a crystal but was super heavy for it's size. Then he touched my forehead and I saw a bright white light and an image of this crystal/stone materialized In my minds eye, I saw this "stone" transform and go through changes, all the way to it's starting substance to which I replied: "WTF, that is what you use to make this stone, absolutely crazy". He said because of this stone, he did not age, had a mind that could reach the deepest levels of meditation, merge with the universal mind/consciousness and did not need to eat or drink anything to sustain himself. He said the stone was pure creation/God energy, which could manifest anything the body required once consumed and restore health in any circumstance. Next I asked about God, the nature of reality, how to practice to reach his level, asked about reincarnation the period in-between lives and asked if he would teach me/take me as a student. He answered the last question, which wasn't really a question and technically was question nr 6 first. He said his knowledge is dangerous and so special that he can only teach one student in his lifetime, as few students as the horn on a unicorns head he said. He already had a student who was in a different cave, and this student was already 400 years old. He said that he had been alive for almost 1000 years and would transition to a higher plane soon. But he did say to reach his level of attainment requires decades of internal cultivation using special breathing and focus techniques with the help of external alchemy, this red/purple stone thing he had. Over the period of a few hours he went into detail and answered every single question. Some of it was lost to translation as my Chinese wasn't perfect, but I got most of what he said I think. When we finished he told me that once I left his cave, I would forget most things that he told and especially the vision he gave me but, that it would slowly come back to me when I meet another mystic of extra ordinary development and understanding, a man who would quote the above phrase about having as few students as the horns on a cows head. Just one horn his junior if you think about it really. Now sadly, none of these memories have come back yet, and the only reason I even remember the vision is the voice recorder on my phone, which had enough battery for just the first part of our conversation. He somehow knew exactly when my phone would die, because the last recorded sentence was him saying: "ok, the time has come, I can now safely answer your questions". Sadly with this vision on how to create the crystal, I didn't explain in details what I was seeing, just bits of amazement and wonder as I watched this movie in my head muttering the occasional vague description of what I was seeing in my head. Such a stone would be incredible to have but sadly, I just don't remember anything. I will keep you guys informed in the memories do come, as I am sure taoist texts is the right man. After all, he deals with intangibles: old words and eternal salvation and his research by the sounds of it, taught him everything there is to know. Truly impressive for a toaist to be so advanced with just theory, which again, makes me believe he could be the right man.

This thread is exactly the reason why I don't really ever want to make fully controlled experiments/demonstration public. I never quite understood it back when I was a beginner student and I asked Master Jiang Feng why he doesn't just do a demo to shut people up once and for all. He just said those who believe will come and those who don't believe won't ever believe. It's not for everyone and I do understand him now. I am kinda sad no one took up the offer to do an interview and answer questions hooked up to a lie detector. For any sane person that would be proof enough I feel but won't be enough proof for the hardcore sceptics which is a win in my books. I love the statements people make because they "know" things. I make more money working as a doctor than I do teaching neigong. I make more money trading stocks than I do working as a doctor. I could stop teaching tomorrow and it won't be an issue. I don't need to trick people or make fake videos to get students because I don't rely on this as my sole or main income. I do it because I wanted to make these teaching available for much cheaper than what it cost me to learn. And I do teach it for less than 2% of the cost I paid to learn the same thing. I am really milking people for money here aren't I... The below is just general, not aimed at you Taoist texts. This entire thread has been opinions being thrown around like facts from people who have never met me, never learned from me and didn't even bother to ask me any questions. FACT They just know everything about me and scrupulous methods, just by looking at me and some videos. FACT Just because a video or demonstration can be faked, it means every single person is using the exact same fake methods when doing a demonstration. FACT There is literally zero chance that faqi could be real, despite it being a quite commonly accepted siddhi in many traditions. Not in the west, but all over asia but this isn't a fact because it's not in books or commonly explained on the interwebs. FACT You can know everything and anything about a person and/or cultivation as a whole by never leaving your house and with 100% accuracy say what is and isn't possible from meditative practices you never tried or even heard of. FACT Anyone can say anything they want about another person they have never met, make horrible accusations without a shred of proof and this is perfectly acceptable and reasonable and makes them heroes deserving of praise. The hypnosis thing is funny though, a bunch of Chinese doctors who don't speak a lick of English are hypnotizing people. Some on here are suggesting that the following would result in people feeling strong electric shocks from sheer belief. We take 10 people and have them stand next to an electric fence. I tell them all the fence is on and they have to touch and hold it. The current isn't enough to damage them but will be really strong and I say this over and over.. I turn it off but none of them know this. You are suggesting all of them will touch the fence and feel a continuous electric current running into them because they thought it was on. Really? Or would they be hesitant at first and when they touched it quickly a few times without a shock will get courage and just grab onto it with zero sensation at all. Any logical thinking person will understand that this will be the reality of such an experiment. Also, hypnosis isn't instant, that only works on a very small number of people and Dan Brown talks about this, he is one of the best hypnotists that I know of and he cannot hypnotize everyone. He gets a bunch of people and picks the ones that are especially sensitive to it, and sends the ones who aren't off the stage because his act wouldn't work with everyone. We have never had a single patient not feel a strong electric current when we do treatments. Some are suggesting hypnosis works 100% of the time on everyone which I guess is another FACT End of the day, no one here will convince the other party of anything. It's pointless arguing and for what? Some here call me a fake and a fraud, others who actually know me and learned from me say that that I am teaching something precious and don't have the character of a scammer. Just let things be and let those who don't want anything to do with me find another teacher to learn from. FACT Taoist texts has read a lot of books so I would recommend him, I know for a FACT he looks decades youngers than his age and is in very good physical shape and never gets sick either, even a freak of nature disease like covid. In fact I can confirm what I said as a fact despite never seeing him in person and just knowing these FACTS based on his writing on daobums because that is how FACTS work. Sadly I can't know absolutely everything about him because I haven't seen a photo or a video of him, he doesn't show his face, body or real name online, I honestly can't imagine why but it means my facts about him are only 99.9999% accurate. All of you who call me a scammer and a fraud, pick him, learn from him, you can't go wrong. He seems so happy and content with life and it comes across in his demeanor and interactions here and you can be happy and content like him too. Also, he teaches for free FACT.

I'll answer this as it is likely going to be useful for many reading. Qi is generated in our bodies from the food we eat via the practices we do. If we are working on a lot of patients and start running low, or running out, eating a big meal replenishes a great deal of qi. This is at the later stages of development, doesn't work like this in the beginning. Only once the dantian is fully established and strong with the channels being well developed and open too. So it does requires years of doing the correct practices slowly enhancing how the body both produces and stores energy and how it easily it can move around in the body. We do treat serious conditions successfully all the time, don't compare us to other systems you know about without having met us and seen what we do.. Qi is used as a tool in combination with tcm based healing methods like acupuncture, bone setting, tuina and herbal prescriptions. Depends if the patient changed the problem which caused the conditions for the problem to arise in the first place. If they did, the healing effect can be permanent and continue to improve with time. A doctor can stop the bleeding and put stiches, but if the patient goes home and continues to cut themselves they will keep bleeding. The same thing happens internally with bad diet, lack of exercise, stress and not enough sleep. Qi is energy, it gives you more, and you can give more to patients. It doesn't make you immune to viruses, or bacteria or poison, it does not stop aging and I don't see why it would or should . It just allows your body to function at it's optimum capacity which doesn't mean it's invulnerable or won't age. It will definitely age better than someone who doesn't have the qi if you don't overspend your qi constantly. Using qi every day to treat patients is draining not to mention getting exposed to sick qi all day every day. The monks who do the same training as us but aren't actively working as doctors look years younger and live much longer than the average person. Hope this helps others who thought the questions were interesting instead of just being a set up for you to come with snarky rhetorical questions later for whatever reason you like to ask them.

Libel is libel buddy, maybe you should do some research. I feel you think I am just being loud and won't actually go through with it but it's done. Again, you need to prove you knew the for a fact the things you said about me. Not strongly believe, or assumed, know for a fact. Can't get butt naked in a courtroom, but a willingness to take a lie detector test will certainly help. If nothing else, it would go some ways to prove I am definitely not a fraud or a scammer to anyone who was unsure reading this thread. Again, besides the point, when you get sued for libel/defamation/slander, you gota prove what you stated as fact is in fact factual. Also, no DM, guess you are a little more scared than you are letting on. Don't worry, daobums would need to give your details in a legal matter. I am off to bed, keep going with your comments, they only serve to help me.

You should copy the above wording and have your lawyer put me on the stand with a lie detector test, this isn't a bluff, I won't fail it. I would take this more seriously if I were you. I can't fail the lie detector test because I have never faked a demo or video in my life. That I promise you and I am more than happy to take the test, in fact, I might even do that just for fun and post the video on my channel. Actually, I will do that and post the video just for you. Do we have anyone in the UK who has access to a lie detector test who would be willing to participate, you can ask any question you want regarding my videos and demonstrations and we can see what the results are. This is a 100% serious offer.

Niceties fell away when you involved my wife without even realizing it. Again blurting out your fantasies as facts. Just get lost mate, you are starting to sound like someone trying to prove how clever he is to hide his insecurities. Actually, you need to prove that you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that I used some sort of machine or trickery to do my demos, you also need to prove you knew for a fact that I was in Ukraine for the sex trade. Both impossible to do. I don't need to do any demo's or prove anything funny enough. But I can take a lie detector test without the slightest worry that I will fail. Have you ever used a machine to falsify a demonstration or any of the demonstrations that you posted online? NO Have you ever used some sort of trickery or slight of hand or magic act or hypnotism to convey having an the ability to project "what you call qi" and generate an electric current in a person of a negative field to affect inanimate pieces of paper? NO Have you in any of your videos posted been aware of any sort of trickery or slide of hand happening to facilitate the unusual effects happening? NO Quite frankly, you can change the wording to whatever you want, I still will not fail a lie detector test because I have never faked a demonstration in my life. But if you are so certain, speed things along and DM your details, we will get things moving forward. Don't worry, I will show you.

You are just butthurt because your years of reading led to nothing but a sad, miserable existence where you get off on trying to upset random strangers on the internet with, what you believe to be, funny, intelligent digs. The only delusion here is your thinking you know real internal alchemy, but have a good day anyway.

Good thing my best friends wife is a lawyer then isn't it. Again, I suggest you look up slander/libel/defamation, actually, I will do you one better, I will quote it and just for fun, show some payouts. What slander/libel/defamation is Defamation includes slander and libel. Libel is the act of defaming another person through writings, such as newspapers, other publications, articles, blogs or social media postings. Slander is the act of making a false oral statement about the character or professional standing of another person. The requirements for slander, I think they have been met. To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement. Recent Libel Damages awards. In the case of Triad Group Plc v Makar [2020] EWHC 306 (QB) allegations published on Twitter about the claimant being involved in serious criminal activity were held to be both defamatory and had caused significant serious harm. In addition, the claimant brought a claim of harassment against the defendant which was also held to be serious. The claimant was awarded the sum of £60,000 in damages in relation to the libel and an additional £65,000 damages award in relation to the harassment claim. In Gilham v MGN Ltd [2020] EWHC 2217 (QB) a teacher was reported incorrectly as having been found guilty of misconduct following a regulatory hearing. The allegation of misconduct related to physical assault against a primary school age child which was very serious. This had an impact upon his professional reputation. The article was printed in national newspapers as well as online. The claimant accepted an offer of amends. The final award by the court was £49,000, however in this matter less than 50% was deducted from the award based on the conduct of the defendants. In Turley v Unite the union [2019] EWHC 3547 (QB) a claimant had been awarded the sum of £75,000 following trial. The claimant brought an action against the defendant who alleged online that there were reasonable grounds to suspect that he had been dishonest and fraudulently joined the trade union in order to vote in its leadership election. The defendant continued to publish the article without apology. There was an aggravated damages sum awarded, although not separately in respect of the defendant’s conduct at trial claiming the claimant was dishonest without merit. The allegations were serious, amounting to criminal behaviour although the meaning of the publication was not of guilt, rather ‘reasonable grounds to suspect’. The libel was against a Member of Parliament and the matter involved political persuasion which added to the seriousness, thus the damages award. In Doyle v smith [2019] EMLR 347 a defendant alleged there were good reasons to suspect the claimant of fraud and reasonable grounds to suspect him guilty of blackmail and sending malicious communications in two publications. The defendant argued only 242 had viewed the first article and less the second therefore damages should be restricted. Following trial and no offer of amends, the claimant was awarded £37,500. In Fentiman v Marsh [2019] EWHC 2099 (QB) a CEO of a company issued proceedings against a defendant who claimed he had illegally hacked its website and social media pages. There was evidence the allegations had spread, known as ‘grapevine dissemination’, additional publications taking place directly as a result of the publication by the defendant therefore increasing the extent of publication. Following trial an award of £55,000 was attained which included £10,000 aggravated damages.

If you are wondering why your posts have been summarized and saved, you won't be wondering too much longer. Expect a call over the next few weeks.

Just wanted to get a copy of this before you go and make changes.

Another fact which is already way passed slandering/libel/defamation with zero evidence as most of your posts have been. I have reported your post and will get a lawyer involved. You can't just keep talking trash with zero proof and this was one post too far. I was in Ukraine because my mother in law had passed away and I was supporting my wife. I suggest you google what slandering is and take a look at the legal ramifications associated with presenting opinion as fact harming an individual or business.

That is a different machine and they are not part of a neigong lineage, they just use this machine for medical purposes, but even with this machine, it's still years and years of them running current into their body opening channels or electric lines and slowly training their body to hold onto the energy in their gut. It's not something you can just do overnight and from what I understand, it's a pretty painful process the first few years. ALSO, i said it's takes years and years of actual meditation to be able TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE MACHINE. Please read. This is my point, you guys hear machine and all of a sudden they are all the same. These machines are completely different in function, in how they look, why they are used. Challenging me as if I was caught in a lie because you don't know the full picture but assume you do. So many assumptions, so many wrong conclusions. It's why I don't like to post on here or take part in discussions. Again, this is something some people will take as some sort of dodgy thing. He doesn't want his information or lineage online, so we don't post it. You will think it's some dodgy reason but the reason is perfectly understandable, it's just not something I wish to post online as it can have repercussions for me. The information about me and what I teach is on my website and youtube videos. If it's not enough for you, move on, I certainly am not trying to convince anyone to learn from me. I just responded to this thread which was specifically about me to clear some things up. I feel like I have said enough now and I won't be participating in this thread anymore. Make all the wrong assumptions and conclusions you guys want and accuse me of being a fraud from your home. Don't bother travelling and meeting different teachers, doing some actual investigation. But i guess finding the truth first hand is too expensive, not cheap to fly here and there, and a sofa is way more comfortable. All the best guys.

There is no secrecy, we don't use the machine so I don't know the exact name. What I do know is the machine is pretty bulky, and requires you to hold onto some electrode and I believe the person you are pushing the electricity into holds onto some grounding pipe. It's done openly, it's not a secret or something hidden in their system. The results of real faqi and using a machine as miles apart if you know the difference and have felt both. To a newby, it would be hard to tell any difference. Getting the current externally from a machine helps to open channels and it speeds up the process a tiny bit. It still takes years and years of meditation alongside the machine to be able to generate and store enough of your own qi to be able to do anything without the machine. Finally, sometimes you just have to take the risk. I certainly took a risk flying out to china, searching for all these teachers and trying to learn. Some turned out to be dead ends, some turned out to fakes, some used machines secretly, others didn't but would never teach past a certain level. It's always a risk you take. Call them out and disrespect them and you might find a con artist at best, at worst you had a real teacher and ruined you chances of ever learning from them. Some people seem to think they are special and entitled and a master should prove themselves to the amazing, world changing student who not only deserves these teachings for free, but also deserves a master to bend over backwards with their demands. Put yourself in a teachers shoes, especially if they aren't using tricks or machines, if they are the real deal. Why would you care about these kinds of potential problems/students trying to call you out when you did nothing except offer something real.