JinlianPai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana

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Well how do you know? Everything in our body relates to something in nature. If the ancient masters called it golden elixir then there might be something to that. Especially if there are such things as golden immortals.

Jeff, Im questioning the spiritual and elemental make up of the golden elixir as it relates to golden immortals.

Jeff do you know what makes a god. A god is the representation of a force in nature. Like the god of love and so forth. It makes complete sense to me that the early alchemist used the element of gold to transmute the physical and spiritual bodies. As gold is the most precious metal on this planet and a great conductor of electricity. An plus I just remembered this I cant beleive I forgot this and I hate to do this but. In the magus of java even john says that your true aura must be yellow or golden. So theres something there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Dragon

Well if the golden elixir has anything to do with actual gold then you would have a connection not only to the earth and sun but every star in the universe.

Ok Now follow me on this. Now if the golden elixir has an actual connection to gold then a few things make sense. Since gold is at the center of the planet and all gold on this planet came from the sun.... So this could suggest that this attainment would require a deep earth chi but yet still be very yang. Which brings me back to this http://www.integralworld.net/powers1.html Earth is referred to as center and in some cultures center is also know as void.

Well I think the golden light is a real thing. Plus Lama Dorje said that if ypu attain the golden dragon body that you should be able to emit light. Now golden flower translates to golden light. But heres the thing toaist and taoist practices has vast connections to nature. I bet that the golden elixir is alchemical gold made inside the human body that is connected to gold in real life. There are stories of hindu mystics that use to get gold and try to energetically pull the energy out of the gold and put it in their body. Gold is in the core of every planet. An plus theres this. http://www.cttbusa.o...rthstore1_2.htm

thank you.

Wu Ming Jen what do you think im talking about? I mean I quoted sources and posted links. Your not actually reading my posts and then giving a vaild answer to be honest your just trolling. If you had read my posts then you would have seen this http://icbi.weebly.com/zhao-bichenrsquos-taoist-yoga.html That was post seven on this thread and this comes directly from the secret of the golden flower.... So Wu Ming Jen is this how you do your research and study....

Man either your not reading my posts or I dont know what. Some of the links and quotes I gave earlier in the thread were from the book secret of the golden flower just read my posts this time and read the book again..... And could you please actually read my post first before hijacking my thread.....

Now lets do some deductive reasoning. Since we know that the secret of the golden flower came into daoism via Lu Dongbin who got it from the Guan Yin sect. Now the question becomes what did the Guan Yin Sect study and practice? Well it turns out they studied the Lotus sutra and the golden light sutra. Now what is the goal of the Lotus sutra? Oh thats right to become a buddha and attain the golden lotus. Now questions come up like if you cultivate the golden elixir will you become a golden immortal? and the answer is yes the golden immortals are the highest level of attainment and attaining that means you attained buddhahood.

Oh god more wishy washy thinking we are all immortal so why question anything and actually do the research..... Ok Wu Ming Jen so do you think that the masters of old were just kidding when they said golden elixir or maybe it was a metaphor.... Thats funny very funny and to be honest its kind of lazy and a excuse not to question further or to do more research. Im glad you posted on this thread like the way you did. I like to use my common sense. Now follow me on this if you were just to tell someone that you do golden elixir alchemy that leads to immortality and that you study and train in it diligently. But your not really sure why its called the golden elixir you havent even looked into golden immortals and you cant manifest the golden elixir..... It just looks bad. See my point?

https://books.google.com/books?id=_P6C4JO4JCUC&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=adept+emits+golden+light&source=bl&ots=CCVRx8lTpB&sig=wPBahfavLrZnnNas1INInrVipKQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Sc3vVLnUDsiuggSlpYPgBA&ved=0CE0Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=adept%20emits%20golden%20light&f=false

http://www.integralworld.net/powers1.html

Thats interesting I thought it came from the Guan Yin sect who taught it to Lu Dongbin........ No not really. The jindan isnt poetry. Its alchemy. There is a very very good chance that it is literal. Sometimes you have to listen to what your actually being told....

http://www.cttbusa.org/esscommentary/earthstore1_2.htm

Sure anytime! it was something I came across and it confirmed a few things I was thinking about as well. Its my contention that gold immortals are able to emit gold light. http://www.tbsn.org/ENGLISH2/article.php?id=1219 https://books.google.com/books?id=a_olqazEVvMC&pg=PA115&lpg=PA115&dq=taoist+emits+golden+light&source=bl&ots=CBSPhXKp-S&sig=1CCxAPJrr4IzYDXeJLx46uw8oS0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=c37vVIXwIoiWgwS7wIGYCA&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=taoist%20emits%20golden%20light&f=false So this confirms for me that the Golden elixir will cause the adept to emit gold light. http://icbi.weebly.com/zhao-bichenrsquos-taoist-yoga.html

I understand but it was this that caught my eye. Higher than the heavenly immortals...so I find this interesting.

I agree Id say it takes 25yrs of hard work and PROGRESSION and LEARNING. Anyone can do something for years and not really progress or learn anything more according their level of progression.....

Practitioners of the golden lotus are suppose to have results... They are suppose to be able to manifest the golden elixir. Zhen qi is elixir yes but it is not the golden elixir. The Golden elixir is literally the energetic expression of gold made inside the human body. It actually correlates to actually gold in the outside world. This is why alchemist referred to it as gold and why some Hinduism work by trying to asorbe gold energy directly... The golden elixir has vast connections to nature.

Well at least I havent received a response in the traitor language of mandarin...Cantonese only please..... Taoist.... Gum Guang Ging...

Im waiting for the Wulipai guys and so forth. Ralis, Zoom and so forth your not wrong.....To be honest All we can do as taoist is be utterly honest with ourselves. Taoist accept other practitioners....

Its not complicated Its just not.