TaoMaster

thx mang , glad you got something good from it . I can show you other cool stuff too in terms of duality if youre interested , hit me back Holla !!

MH can you tell me in your own words what the TAO means ? Ive read definitions of it so I have my own understanding and consider myself a master of it but id like to hear from others what it means. Tao . I also hear different definitions of my avatar and what it means and the little white dots that you have in you symbol in your signature . BTW I dont listen to everyone who posts to me directly . I will always listen to anyonyone at first and continue and many times coment but if their posts are directed to me in a derogotory way too often , i just put them on ignore list and the posters who I cant put on that list I simple do not read one word of their posts anymore. thx bro !!

oh wow so its not the other way around ? oh yes very much so and im seeing new ones more and more oh ok so its not just after . Do you mean it alternates one after another ? I do too but it always starts at some point in a new unit of time so to speak . my point was that its not someting Ive read about or know about , its something ive experienced forst hand and thats the best way to know something rather than hear say from another . very interesting stuff MH , thx for your time and personal insights. especially your take on spirituality and duality

thank you but unfortunatly........ and i truly hate to say this, I dont understand this at face value . ( the pyramid type image you included of 10000 ) Meaning it may or not be something i agree with . If I study it with all its contect included then certainly i can understand it . Its as if its in a different language that I dont speak or write. . So dont take this as a disagreement . can you explain it using simplier terms in your own words ? perhaps how it might be in ones everyday life . Not that I dont trust you but it will help me understand what you are trying to say and Im sure youre trying to show me how you see things from your point of view in a friendly way and I appreciate that youve taken the time to do that . Its a releif that i can even have conversations about yand and yin with others who are familiar with it . But it apears that so far there truly is not any referen from any text about how yang and yin are determined or that is it a matter of oppinion or perspective. we live in a world of duality and there is no question about that . -Its not a matter of oppinion Its every where and in every thing. Its not random and its not just in certain things and not in others.

It's basically like this The yang yin symbol I use is half black and half white . It say looses duality..... Duality is 2 When you add two more dots within each that makes four . It adds confusion and complexity to the simplicity of yang yin. It's not YANG with a little yin and YIN with a little yang . It's simply YANG AND YIN Makes no difference who put the additions there or when or why . Simple is simple and complex, complex . I also turned the symbol so white is on top where it belongs . White is yang and black is yin . Top is yang and bottom is yin So I turned it and put white on top Also up is yang and down is yin. See? ( smile ) Thanks for your comments and questions . I welcome them from you. ( smile ) Do you mind to give me an example in life where new yin and yang arise from old yin and yang and can you tell me how you determine what is hand and what is yin ? It for the purpose of better understanding your comments . I also do not refer to yin yang with yin first . It's yang and yin because yang always comes before yin . So to keep simple I use that order. Do you know of Occam's razor ? You can google it if not . It's a very simple philosophy that will allow easy problem solving and it's easily understood buy a forth grade student like me. Taomaster. ( smile )

how would you say it ? so if i understand you correctly, there is no evidence in the physical universe of duality ? its ONLY a subjective matter ? Duality is only found subjectively ? please comment

Hello and thank you for your comments . closed to change ? wasnt me who said that , link ? not the way I see it Please look up the definition of Tao. I am a master of the tao like no other you will ever know nor read about . I say this sincerely and with total respect to you . Because this is how I would like to be adressed by others. https://www.google.com/search?q=tao+definition+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb I have mastered "the way" and have fulfilled this above definition is every possible way . I know the way and I am a master of the tao in the fullest sence of the word. Ive also proved this to at least myself in the simplest terms possible. Im a real taomaster in every way and there is nothing anyone can say to change this . Not only have I mastered Taoisum but I have shown you how you can master it as well . A very simple meditative exercise. No need to read any book . also not only am I a master of the tao , I actually know the unknowable that the tao describes so im far abouve the tao in that I know what the tao says is unknowable . This makes me master of all taomasters. Far above all tao masters. Again with respect . I simply asked you a single question . Take a look at my last post to you . 1 simple question .. taoisum is about reading between the lines ? See the link i provided you . This is what taoisum is about . this is meaningless to me . It makes no sence . Its complicated and thats YIN . ( negative ) do you know what occams razor is about ? here are some O.R. quotes. "If you have two theories that both explain the observed facts, then you should use the simplest until more evidence comes along" "The simplest explanation for some phenomenon is more likely to be accurate than more complicated explanations." "If you have two equally likely solutions to a problem, choose the simplest." "The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct." . . .or in the only form that takes its own advice. . . "Keep things simple!" complexe and makes no sence. Not enough context . Beyond the 3 come 4 ? I dont get this . But if I had the rest of the context I might understand it better. these are not simple terms Daeliun. You say allot of things but it says nothing in terms of understanding. I dont understand it . I dont want to be lead on a wild goose chase . Im only looking for specific references to know how others determine yang and yin . Whats the formula used. I already know how but want to see if there is another way besides mine. this is not tao mastery and I continue to see your true color of opposition to me . Its been there all along . Its very clear now you have a big problem with my statements and name taomaster. I act like one because I am one . as per the above definition . I became one last Febuary and im still one today . In fact more of a taomaster now than ever before. My yang attribute are increasing in a progressive manor I asked you a simple question in my last post to you . . But this is the long winded ( as you say ) reply I get back and it didnt answer my question yes or no. Is there a reference you can direct me to that shows a person how to determine what is yang and what is yin ? Simple yes or no ? Im not gong to read whole books and end up no closer to my answer than the moment I started. Just a simple reference . If you cant then ok no big deal . I see now you cant . please dont speak in a derogatory manor to me as if im toying with anyone or that im simply acting in some way that implys im a fake. I just asked you a single simple question . A link or a " I cant help you " would have been fine. no need to reply to his post . Youve said enough .

so your oppinion is that duality is a subjective decision based on oppinion ? and that is doesnt exist in the objective world ? its subjective and man made ? yes ? no ? BTW subjective and objective are both the same item when viewed from a spiritual point of view. they oppose each other . you are correct in that subjective is yin and objective is yang . i had to look at it closer for a day until it colapsed for me and became a single item . its an illusion in that it seems like we decide we want to do something first subjectivly and the carry it out objectively after but this is not so . we simply do or see an action or a thing and then consider it after . The consideration says whats objective is not so and can say no in an infinite number of ways . the subjective consideration always comes after and says that which or what is , isnt . they are both the same item in that both are perceivable by life . one happens to be more dence and solid like the core of the planet ( obj ) while the other is alomst and can be virtually transparent made of very few particles. you can visualize a girl in a short skirt and bikini and you can even have her give you a blow fish ( google blow fish ) in a 24 x 24 x 24 glass aqarium with pink spots and blue dots and objectivly outside your body see the same girl , same fish etc etc . both are perceptable by you and if your good at it like i am others can see your image too . The more solid you make your subjective image the easier it is for others to see. I say this from personal experience

i wouldnt say that all thoughts are illusions . I have thoughts of short skirts and bikinis and i see short skirts and bikinis but i know what you mean . i consider an illisuion not real and real not an illusion but actually they are both the same thing . a thousand people can see the same illusion so just because my thoughts or your thoughts can not be seen by others does not correctly define what an illusion is . Perhaps its you with delusional illusions ? anything perceivable by us is real in terms that if it wasnt real it would not exist in anyway . i think ive come to a conclusion about yang and yin AKA duality. You mentioned at as well in other terms , realitivity is also realitivity . duality is also bound by the law of duality in other words there are some things that can be changed by perspective in terms of duality and some things that can not . this also proves my point that duality does exist and can not be changed by oppinion or perspective and at the same time it CAN be changed by perspective and oppinion . you cant change up and down but you can stand on your head and then down becomes up and up down . The sky is always up and the ground is always down even from outer space while you look up at the earth . a tracffic ticket is good for the cop and bad for the guy who ran the stop sign . its still a ticket none the less. so even the laws of duality are subject to the laws of duality and there is no exception to this . fast and slow are both attributes of speed or time in the singular term. so far no one has explained this to me in these terms . This is the purpose of my threads to get a better understanding and i hope others do too . i havent been put in my place ive just got better from all of this and im sure others have had some benifit as well . I know so , ive been told by them more than once .

enlightenment is an attribute of yang . yang is a positive . yin is a neg . if its not yang it must be yin and if its not yin it must be yang . its a dualistic universe made of 1s and 0 s yang 1 and 0 is yang enlightenment on its own , by its own as in singular is yang anything attributed to yang is yang and to yin , yin . all we are doing is assigning polarity and voltage in a sence, to each thing in the universe. in order for a thing to exist it must have both yang and yin . so in that respect no yang is not all yang but when compaired to its neg pole , enlightenment is more pos than neg so i say in general terms , its all yang . if it has more yang than yin , its yang and more yin its yin . yang and yin are simply two poles of the same item. the only way and i mean only way as in a single way yang becomes yin is when all yang becomes yin at the same time. the way this is done is when all things are viewed by life the creator of all things . Life is always yang and there is no exception to this . its not an oppinion or relative or perspective. life comes first and lifes creations come after . yang always preceds yin . heres the twist . life has no begining and no end . its always been and will always be . it can not be killed or end itself . i know life very well . Ive been one with all life . it happened last Febuary . life IS aware of itself just like you are aware of yourself. Life is not physical . it creates physical in the tao its known as the unspeakable or something to the degree. I know why . Life does not want to be known but it can never be fully unknown or it would no longer live . i didnt read this in a book . i experienced this first hand . many will say ive experienced enlightenment and i agree but there are many levels of enlightenment just like many levels of awareness. in terms of my human form? lets just say my pencil is not the shapest in the box. and my elevator does not go all the way up . my education is literally at the 4th grade level . i was yanked out of school for two years and then tossed back in at the 7th grade i failed every class from that point on with the exception of metal and wood shop and didnt do too bad with science class. I gots A's and B's but failed in 4 of 6 subjects all the way up to the 12th grade where i dropped out and took the GED 3 times before i passed it . Spiritually ? ive never met anyone as spirituall advaned or enlightened as me and ive been looking everywhere . i xcan see things that as far as i know , no one can else see about life and the universe but only in general terms . My detail is improveing and im getting allot from this website in terms of furthering my spiritual ability . i can feel the pain others have from my posts and im truly sorry for that . the LAST thing i want is to see others suffer from my actions . Not all do and some do both , suffer and experience enjoyment , namely me . it hurts to be attacked in a negative and derogatory manner and i dont like it. i know opposition and i know and agreement. very well . Im truly here to help you and me both . whats helpful for one is not always helpful for another . I cant do anything abaout that . So if my posts are hurting anyone , its best to just not read them and if they help then read them all many many times. pretty simple logic , im good at logic , in my oppinion

Ok I just examined some statements from a text , online about duality . It stated that there is no good and no bad , no beauty and no ugly and no right or wrong etc . It's opinion only that can differ from one to another . This goes right back to perspective again. Which I don't agree with . For me ? These are all duality . Good bad happy sad laugh cry black white , subjective objective etc . It's not a matter of opinion or perspective . What you're saying is that it's all a matter of subjective opinion , correct me if I'm wrong here. I don't want to misunderstand you . I can clearly see that what's good for one person is bad for another. Let's say a cop writes me a ticket for speeding. It's good for him because it shows he's doing his job but bad for me cuz now I gotta cough up some cash to pay fine or get into more trouble if not . This is opinion in the fullest sense of the word. So is the ticket good or bad ? The ticket is just a ticket both good and bad depending on the POV from one person to the next. It's a good thing in the eyes of the father who's child was almost hit by the car that was speeding but bad for the driver who needs to fork over the fine to the city . It's good for city revenue but bad for the drivers investment portfolio. Is this what your saying ? That for your comments . The one and only master of the Tao ( laughing ) hey it's an opinion .

No paragraphs are just paragraphs , in starting to spin in a world of confusion now , NOT GOOD , ( laughing ) It'll end soon and I'll be on my feet again so to speak . What is all yang ? Where is this elsewhere place ? Link ? I pose questions to get response from others that will get them to explain their reality . Then I compare it to mine . Many times I share mine so they can com pair it to theirs and comment . The purpose is sincere for all . Yours truly . I can only know the things I know . We all do . As soon as I know a thing , it's no longer not known and becomes known by me . It's a matter of question . When one no longer has any questions about life and the universe it can be said truly that one knows everything about the universe and life , the creator of the universe . ( smile ) I'm on my ipad so I can't do smile icons. ( smile )

Hey marble head , thanks sincerely for the time you spent putting this together for me . I've heard of other religions that state there is no good and no bad . Not going to say which as it tends to open a new can of worms when I speak of things that are very sensitive to others who might read this . ( laughing ) but I'm going to examine this more . What really caught my attention in another post you made was that you said duality is subjective and not objective . So I tried to look at things without the subjectivity , something I've only done a few times for a very short time . I've woken up in the night and didn't know where I was for a second or two . It was just a room , no location on the planet or city or street . It was not a good sensation and then it ended and I knew exactly where , when and how about the room . The above is an extreme example . So basically you're saying duality is a man made observation . A dog or cat or monkey does not see duality? I'd love to see your point of view better . Really ! And you mine. Who knows, it may be the missing link that fully enables my goals . It's impossible to know what I don't see. Because as soon as I see it , I no longer don't see it . I can only know what I didn't see or didn't know . Same for you too. When I say I understand everything about the universe , it only applies to the thinks I know about it and may not be everything. But so far I know what I know and don't have any questions EXCEPT for your statement on the duality of subjective / objective duality. But this is a good thing and it's another purpose for starting this and all my threads . To get myself and others to examine life and the universe in details and closely . Vanish illusions and become better . But if there is no better and no worse as in duality then what's the point ? Perhaps it truly is all about the sensations of conflict and opposition. So ya I'd like for you to go into more detail about duality As man made observation that does not exist in the objective universe. Thanks !!

Yes , huge, correct, any questions? It was very spiritual

Ive done that before. It was mid 2010. Cried and laughed same exact time really hard. It was brought about by the collapse of huge reality ><illusion package. A huge spiritial realization about life and universe. Thx for your comment ( smile ) Laugh >< cry. Same difference . Both outflowing Cry says no to laugh. Laugh is yang . The more you laugh at another who is crying the more they cry. Laugh is happy cry is sad Peace ( smile )

Mr Marble head , i have another question please. You mentioned duality being a subjective matter and not an objective matter. Can you please go into more detail on this with a few examples. ? you might be onto something I havnt realized before. it may be helpful for me in some way . You say there is no duality in the objective physical universe, and that duality is only subjective . please elaborate on this a bit . thx !!

interesting but not very descriptive in terms of understanding. This can mean so many different things sounds like the planet we are on . the center is low and inside and where it begins and the outer limits of the sky above, is high and where the planet ends. i like simplisity . I agree 100 % that simplisity can answer the most complex questions. Its how i answer all of my questions. meaning less so far and not aplicable to any of my posts sounds like a girl i met who insisted she was a master of the tao but would not let me get a word in . She talked for hours and i finally told he i need to go now. its called two way communcation . I use it al the time and i always allow others their turn to speak . sounds good to me but i dont see how im in conflict with this . Anyones welcome to say anything anytime . I listen but if its derogaotory i dont read it . I dont read Brains posts anymore. Its just allot of rant and rave . Cany ignor him using software but i simply dont read his posts anymore. Hi Brian ( waves ) ok i see . so each line represents an action of shining or not in some way . so do your posts and so far what im reading from this one is shut and and listen to others even if what they say is rediculious, agree with it . Thats not going to happen anytime soon or ever . Not until i read something that makes sence . I like much of what i read and allot does make sence. This post of yours relates to my cup spilling over and ill say it again, get a bigger cup , my cup has no top , its limitless and always will be . If its too much for others to swallow , thats not my problem its theres. Im a big guy , a locomotive in a way but without the loco . Im yang and allot of it . Alpha. i used to be nick named the preacher when i was 15 but i was mute then . I never spoke more than a few words at a time . I was too inhibited and ironically i was named the preacher by some of my friends. . if i can benifit others as a living demonstration , im happy for that . Im happy to help anyone I can in any way and needless to say im unhappy to hurt anyone in any way . its a legal matter that most of us live by but dont realize it . im not here to piss anyone off although i knew it was comming , always does. I see it allot from otrhers too who are trying to help . There always seems to be the few who attack thoses who want to help . I understand "why" Its a compulsive issue . its a legal matter . They get ignored after they show their true colors a few times. many will read my posts , agree and move on or disagree and move on but there is always a few who just ...... go..... insane ... over what i say . they know who they are but unfortunatly theres nothing anyone can do to help them . Sadly . the best i can do for them is simply ignore them and thats exactly what im doing now . they have had plenty of oppertunity to shine back but instead they fight back , lash out , ridcule and hate. sorrry , no thanks , the energy sensations are hellish so i choose to avoid them alltogether . Can you tell me Daeluin , is there a reference book you know of that can help anyone determine what is yang and what is yin ? I already know how but im looking for some kind of text i can read for the purpose of conformation and to know if there is a certain formula that is used, Maybe similar to the formula I use. thank you for your commenst , you have a nice way of expressing yourself and i like what you say . even if its to etell me to STFU and let someone else have a chance I still like you . I like Brain too and the rest but im ignoring him now . Couple others too . Im sure youd want that too if you were me . keep posting your comments , ill listen to what you have to say , id love to hear what you have to say and long as its polite and respectful in some way and so far you have been just that .

to understand it better . Understanding is a good thing . its one of the yang attributes. when you increase one yang attribute , all increase to the same degree. its also a good thing to know whats a yang attribute and whats yin . . This is the first step to enlightenment using the exercise, ive provided in the previouse posts. Its a form of meditation and when done correctly , produces amazing results , all yang . try it http://thetaobums.com/topic/35969-how-do-we-know-whats-yin-and-whats-yang-really/?p=580257

never said it did , .....link ? ive always known subjective is mental and objective is physical . Actually they are both physical but two poles of the same spectrum . anything subjective or objective is physical becuase its perceivable . anything perceivable is physical . its made up of particles, matter , energy and sensation. including subjective , whats your point MH ? what is it that you are opposed to in my post?

ah ok i see , thank you . makes sence too . The law of dualty is very strong and apparent in this post . Its a little complicated but i get the gist of it . my philosophy is that the simplest explanation is always the most probable . But this does not mean both are untrue, just one is more probable . Its a lesson i learned from occams razor . I try to keep my posts simple and use anology too like you have. very good of you and i understand when you say my cup runnith over . Theres a time to sit back and say nothing so others can shine too. this is exactly the kind of corrispondance im looking for in my threads. so for that i say thanks again . tell me more .

here is an illusion that im certain will not be accepted as truth . when we are outside and the sun is shining we see and feel the sun when we are inside the house with all the blinds closed , we do not see or feel the sun the illusion is that there is a sun outsdie but because we dont see it does not mean it does not exist the reality is that when we do not see the sun it does not exist . period. when we feel the suns heat but do not see the sun , it still does not exist . only the heat exists. this , as ive mentioned in earlier posts the far extreme of reality and illusions. the consideration is real . anything you consider is real in that it is perceivable by you . It may not be real to others but that does not make it real or not for you . of its not real for you , then it isnt real . It may be real for others but until its real for you it simply does not exist. nothing behind you exists either . Sounds coming from behind you ? yes but only the sound. The car does not until you know it does. we can only know things that exist to be known so by law things you do not know , do not exist . most people will say ok , man you are totally insane , youve lost your mind and are a complete lunatic. not so yes I do not have a mind , but i can whip one up in an instant at will 24/7 365 i dont see the illusions most, if not all, others do. sanity ? more so than most if not all than others as well . happy, fun, laughter, brightness, intelligent and the other yang attributes ? almost all yang all the time . Not so much yin but i can certainly sense yin attributes from others and it feels horrible .

please explain , Hex 36 line 6 . Understanding yang yin duality in the subject of tao is what i do best and id love to hear what others know about it . If anything . The best way to do this is to talk to others about it . Hence , all this talk of yang yin . Reading is not a bad thing, I do that too but its limited to snips from others on the subject of duality rather than whole books at a time .. it seems very few know that much about it and yet it is so basic . My purpose for this thread is not only to help others understand yang yin and how to determine yang yin but also further my understanding and discover things about it i may not know exist on the subject . We can not know what we do not know and its not easy to know what we are not knowing because we dont know the things we dont know until we know them . we can say we dont know how to play a piano but if we dont know that a piano exists, we will never know how to play a piano until we do . Grandmaster P reality ><illusion are just a single example of what yang and yin are. there can be an infinite number of specific attributes for the basic yang yin . i think the best way to describe yang yin is that yang is always a + and yin is always a - so we're simple assigining + and - to all things that exist in the universe . you can find a partial list here http://thetaobums.com/topic/35665-what-is-love/ these are like the notes of a keyboard in a way . They all sound different and you can learn to read the universe like you would learn to read music in terms of musical notes of a keyboard . its very benificial when you understand which is which youll know what or who to aviod in life and what and who to embrace. yang attracts yang and yin , yin . like the poles of a magnet attract and repel . if you want happiness in life , hang around happy people . If you want misery , hang out with miserable folks. its pretty obviouse whos happy and whos not on my threads the energy sensation feels horrible the energy sensations from those who are generally happy feel much better

It seems that way but the more you understand it the more precise it becomes. Like understanding the piano in a way . It first it seems impossible but with practice you begin to understand it more and more and your ability to use it in a pleasurable way increases. Understanding yang and yin are no different in this respect. First you determine the notes on yang yin. There's only two . You can form sentences like the keys form cords. The sentences can reveal illusions about life . Which ones? We all have them. They differ from one person to the next and some are the same too. You can learn to read the universe like reading notes of music on a score . The benefits ? Yang tends to attract more yang and yin, yin. The bad? A lack of understanding , mis understanding in other words, attracts yin. When I attempt to explain it , I get attacked by those who don't understand it . They can't see what I see so they don't understand it . They get frustrated , pissed off and generally make a fool of there self. Understanding yang and yin is like gaining ability to understand and play the universe as it were the piano It's amazing in ways that differs from one person to the next . Very key on the keyboard has a purpose and so does yang yin. I consider myself a master of an art . It's not scientific in that respect . But in many ways it is . Just like + and - are . You're just assigning + and - to words and context and perspectives. The notes never change only the way you view them , arrange them and apply them. I taught myself how to play yang yin and then latter learned that I'm not the only one who's played . It's an instrument most don't even know exists and it's truly thee most amazing instrument in the universe . It explains everything about it . How it got here , who put it here , how many times it's been here and much more. Are there past lives ? Yes is there reincarnation? No How do I know this ? Life is the one constant in all life times past present and future. Life is the common denominator . We as human life forms can know anything life knows and life knows all . We were all there in that respect. It's the illusions we need to vanish to know these things . The illusions are what occlude reality . Yang is what's real and yin is the illusion . When you know which fork in the road to take ( yang ) you be on the right path . But if you take the yin fork , you'll just get nowhere. Knowing the differences between them is everything. grandmaster p , My question to Brian was rhetorical BTW ( smile ) but thanks for your help ( laughing )

so theres no up or down in the universe. No day and night no left or right, no good or bad no war and peace, no forward and backwards, no war and peace, hot and cold, happy and sad , hard and soft , sweet and sour, ocean and land ? these are all things in the physical universe. does the law of duality only apply to some things and not others ?

thanks , your comment made me laugh. I can give you thousands of examples and you can reject them all so im gonna pass . I see you're upset and i TOTALLY know why but you wouldn't believe me . You'd shoot it down too . Thats what yin does. Its says no , its negative and it also has negative sensations . its like a game in a way i serve the ball and you throw it back and say no . I serve it a little different and you say no . No matter what I say or how I serve the ball you say no and toss it back . sometimes you dont comment and thats good too . Better to say nothing than to say something negative . Ive browsed some of the others threads and i don't agree with many of the things others say . But I don't post up and comment in a negative way . I just move on and I think there are many who don't see what i do and just move on without a negative comment too. so with that said , can you give me some examples of something true and something that is an illusion ? any thing that is perceivable by life is real in some way or it would not be perceptible in any way . if an illusion is perceptible then it too is real . They are two poles of duality reality and illusion .