TaoMaster

Haha yeah ain't that the truth..... Not really . In reality nothing is the absence of anything. Give me an example of how you can lie about something that does not exist . Good luck ....as soon as you try it becomes something. A lie is stating a thing is when it is not or it is not when it is . It's impossible to prove a thing is this or that or here or there or not there when it doesn't exist . Nothing , no thing, will always be nothing. It's the complete absence of any thing, it's yin in its purest form . Or not is ness, if you prefer Even when a thing is brought into existence , there will still be an absence of that thing. No thing, nothing. If you view the planet from the bottom it spins in one direction, from the top another direction yet the planet is always spinning the same direction no matter which perspective you view it from . You can be trillions of miles out in space, it's still turns from yang to yin at the surface. Or spirals , same difference . If you see the sun rise in the east and set in the west from the planets surface it will not change. If you view it from a remote location it does not rise or set at all . If you go even further is no longer exists and will vanish. But this does not change day and night on the planet . Yang is day yin is night. You can view the planet from a remote distance from any point of view , any perspective you can imagine but that will not change the gravity that keeps objects down , ( yin ) or the star light we see in the night sky's , ( yang. ).....( Brian ) Again this belongs in the yang yin thread not illusions reality . Bearded Dragon, I understand you do not understand my threads and oppose them and me too. That's totally ok . I completely understand your inability to understand. Yin tends to stick to yin and yang sticks to yang like two poles of a magnet and karma. If you snap a magnet in half , you still have yang and yin but now you have more of them . Perspective will not change that no matter how hard you try . Subjective and objective reality are both real things . Without you there would not be me. But you don't understand that either. Hahahaha that's ok . You are just as valid as I am , you are the yin to my yang. I enjoy your comments. It just empowers me even more . Like Darth Vader to OBWon when he took him out with his light saber. You don't understand that either , nor did Vader . OB did and so do I.

Got cha thx , Take another look ......pretty sure it's you whos ignoring mine big fella. Did you mention something about a tea cup ? I replied . The tea cup is yang and no tea cup is yin. Yin is always the not, or lie , or illusion or denial of the reference, it's always the negative of the positive . I posted a list of five yang yin examples and no one stepped up to show me how they can mean either or and or both. You included. What was your other example? I don't recall but if you repost it here I'll comment on it . I guarantee you won't be able to do it . Perhaps there's just a big difference in definition ? No .its as simple as simple gets . It's a matter of opposition . My yang and your yin. I came first and then you say no way . Yang always precedes yin . There can't be a yin without the yang first . Can you lie about nothing? Try it . The lie is always yin no matter what perspective, opinion viewpoint or attitude . My explanation of yang and yin and the yang and your reply that it's not true is the yin .

Perspective by definition is merely an attitude . An attitude will not change yang and yin . It have nothing to do with dimension either. Nor a point of view. Yang will always be yang and yin yin no matter the attitude , point of view or dimensions. But that's on the " yang yin thread I started " There is only 1 dimension . It's right in front of you . You can add the other dimensions , opinions attitudes, and perspectives you want but that will not change what is right in front of you . https://www.google.com/#q=perspective+ The universe is a sphere that is projected by life through the sun via the life forms . It's governed by the law of duality and is generated by yang and yin . It appears and vanishes like our thoughts do . Out thoughts are projected no differently than the physical universe. This is my reality as it is now but it changes to lower levels as needed when having conversations with others at a lower level . There is no thing behind us , only an illusion that there is . An illusion that generates dimension and perspectives with the use of yang and yin . There is only what's before us right now and nothing more than the consideration that there is something more.

Roger that , same here. I went into an art gallery and the hostess described what she saw in the painting while I described something completely different than my own reality of what I was seeing. Even though the painting is the same . From my perspective , only the perspective is different between person to person and sometimes the same. But like the paintings and forests, yang and yin do don't change from person to person , just the perspective from one person to the next . There are levels of reality from illusion at the bottom ( yin ) to reality on top ( yang ) no matter what I say or try to illustrate , if ones really level is only so so and less than mine , they will not see what I see. Same for me as well . I'm certain there must be others who see what I do but we have not met yet . I'm also very certain there are others who will never see what I do ....... Ever. No matter what I say or show them . It's a route one needs to climb up them self just like I had to do myself. I have not met anyone who can show me different perspectives for the same yang and yins. Same context too. It's not possible . If it were then all those who have stepped up to say perspective is a factor would simple give me at the very least , one if not more real life examples. I've asked many for examples over and over but no one will because they can't. This is how I prove my preaching. Of a thing can not be disproved as true then by the law of duality , it must be true. So I hold my ground on this and will gladly step down when anyone can prove perspective changes yang and yin . Word for word , without changing context or definition.

No problem , it's not for me in enforce reality or stip away illusions on anyone but he's very close to the far side of reality . The fact is that if a thing does not exist or does not happen before YOUR eyes, you human eyeballs, it doesn't exists and it didn't happen . If life can only know things that exist , yang Then by the law of duality , Every thing that life does not know , does not exist . This is the far left side , the yang side of reality . It's as real as real gets . All else is an illusion . When you sit in your room alone , only your room exists, nothing else. Hence , my note . " for the advanced taoists " You may hear a truck drive by or some birds chirping but it's only the sounds that exist , not the cars and birds . Illusion or reality , ? Which is which ?

Very well said . It's a lie , illusion that is . And reality is the truth. Truth and reality , yang. Illusions and lies, yin . But that's a different thread . Another guy Dogson , in an earlier post to this thread , said , in other words, it's not so much about the differences than it is about what can be done about it . All my threads are about what can be done about it . Know what's yang and yin and you can do something about it . That and much more . Reality is yang and illusion is yin . See my thread called how do we know what's yang and what's yin.

allot of good sensations for sure . its what life is all about . Pos and neg sensations.

yin. men are yang women are yin ..................generally. see what i mean . ? but you can fine tune out the generality of yang and yin . When you do the excercise. Its both subjective and objective . you can fight it , deny it , oppose it and refuse it , all yin. But it wont change the universe one bit . Youll just be swimming up stream . Is it not better to row, row , row, your boat gentally down the stream ? Life is but a dream .... or something like that . typically speaking , dudes will be like , do it bro come on do it !!! and laugh while sistas will be like NO i said NO . Dont do that . key word is typically. girls say yes too and guys say no as well . when you look at the whole universe or as much of it as you can youll see yang and yin every where . Many will say theres more to life than just + and - but they dont see the details . Its ONLY yang and yin . There is no 3rd or 4th . its a binary universe. always has been and will be . No matter how we spin it . you can change your perspective or oppinion all you want but it wont change yang and yin . i did nt dream this stuff up for lack of something better to do . or did I ? im not the only one who " sees" it either. I thought i was until i started looking into the yang and yin from others When i met my wife , her english was not very good. I didnt care . I knew she was a good person . I would use words and pictures and write them on paper for her to read. I made a list of positive things and then wrote the opposites next to the positives. Afte the list got to be about 40 words long in columns , i noticed something very interesting about the list . It answered questions about life for me and for her. Illusions began showing up and vanishing . It gave me a good feeling about life and living. . then i started forming sentences about 6 years latter . opposing sentences. Then longer and longer sentences. all opposing . It was amazing . I was back to zero and the begining of creation of the universe and the role life has with the universe. . life is the only non dualistic in the universe but life is not physical. its spiritual and has no mass , no matter . no location. life is perfection and the only absolute in the universe, but life has no location so its not in the universe and it is in the universe. Its both in and not in . you cant give life a name like i have, because life is not a thing nor a noun nor a verb . life is everything the physical universe is not and the physical universe is everything life is not . Life is what put everything and every one here. Life is who and what runs the show so to speak . Life is who everyone is praying to ( ) when its actually life praying to self, in human for to sprirtual non formed. life is yang , it came first then the universe , yin it came after to oppose yang. we are all life all 1 spiritual being , not sparate beings or souls. you and me ? same dudes and sistas brah. . See that treet frog on the tree? BOTH you and both me . That makes you and me the same dude or sista too holms. You can deny it all you want . That what life does. It propoes and denys self , yang and yin . outside the universe , there is no self and others . only self . LIFE . Life is singular. The 1 but also ZERO . Life exists and does not exist .

Thx Brian , Yang and yin are always a positive and negative . If there were no language for example, and all we could do is say two words, yang or yin or yang and yin, THATS yang yin. Kind of like a grunt .....yang....grunt yin. Yang is a yes and yin is a no . It's not relative to any other thing other that yang and yin and perspective has no bearing on it in any way. A yes is always a yes and a yin is always yin , no exceptions. What some have trouble with , is adding some kind of context to it giving it perspective options. Spinning it . So to speak . Yang is always positive and yin is always neg . No exceptions. What is pos or neg can change based on context but pos is always a pos and neg is always neg. Yang and yin can be assigned to words based on context . A tea cup is yang when compared to no tea yin. A tea cup by itself can be yin or yang A small tea cup next to a large tea cup ? Use the large , it's more and more is always positive when compared to less. If you converse with another only using the words yang or yin , yang will always be pro and yin con . If you use the meditative drill of forming dual packages, it's always used based on your feeling or what's positive and what's neg. It's done on general terms and can always be changed based on your opinion. It's never done based on another's opinions. Past considerations will arise, get sorted out by you and then vanished. I can assure you though that there is nothing in the universe that is not either positive or neg. Not because I read about it in a book , it's because the universe does not change based upon perspective , perspective is changed by you . Only by you If the color green is yang then the absence of the color green is yin . Absence is a neg , it's a no, a not, a minus. Present is a yang a yes , a certainty, a positive . The only thing that changes is your perspective , but not the yang or yin . Once you get started on the drill , you won't want to get off of it . The more you do it the more you'll want to do it. You'll know more about life and the universe than anyone on the planet . It will take you all the way to zero . I can tell you where else , but you won't believe me. You'll be like ok BS dude. You just need to do it . You will thank me latter. You'll also see others around you who don't have a clue as to wtf is going on , how did all this come to be ( the universe ) ? Make a list Put the pos on one side and the neg on the other . See where it takes you ? If it goes well, you'll know by how you feel. It'll feel good if you do it correctly and like crap if you don't. Feelings are your yang and yin . Yang is always a good pos feeling and yin ? Do I need to say ? Rather than try to disprove it ( yin ) try to prove it to be true ( yang ) See what I mean now ? It's simply putting a + to a word or a - Be honest with yourself .........yang . I look at my absence of education as a positive . Yang. Others will say it's yin . THATS perspective. Using the drill will sort it all out for you . It's a personal thing. There will ba those who say , " I did it and nothing happened " its then being negative and you will understand the why behind it more than they know why they went to the trouble of telling you it didn't work out. There's nothing in this for me . I'm not selling anything. A book or a class. I'm here to be helpful. Who knows it may catch on and many will use it . A magnet has two poles. Which is pos and which is neg ? Neither depending which way they lay . There's no way to tell the difference unless there are two separate magnets or more. When you place the magnets in a way that they stick to each other , you'll find like poles . When they oppose, you'll find unlike poles. Yang or yin are always opposing to each other , while two of the same complete each other. THIS IS YANG AND YIN . perspective will not change this. From this perspective there is no pos or neg . Just opposing or complementing poles. Pos always attracts and neg always repels. No exceptions. You can spin this anyway you want and even lie to yourself about and you won't change it . Front can only see front and back can never see another back . Do you see life forms with eyes on the back of thier heads ? Human life forms as well as all life forms are based on yang and yin . Two eyes, nostrils, ears and many other sets. Any singular items are based on life the creator of all things. Like the heart for example or the head . It's life and the physical universe. . Life form. Religion has nothing to do with it . Religion is like a motorcycle club. Just a bunch of people getting together on a subject. It's all scientific and spiritual . You can and will literally and figuratively understand all there is to understand about life and the universe. Who would not want to know this stuff? You'll be amazed at how many do not . We were all present when the universe was created, just as present as we are right now. Weather or not you choose to know it is your choice. It's not mine . I choose to know . It's yang . Yang sticks to other yangs just like the magnet and yin sticks to yin . Who do you want to stick around with ? Who do you not want to stick around with you ?

the universe has not changed since its conception , we live the same ways life time after life time. Its nothing more than knowing , not remembering , knowing how it was created. We were all there when it was . We are the architects of the universe and we are the only thing that keeps us from knowing what we in fact created. You were there just as much as i was. Theres only 1 spiritual life and many physical life forms. humans are no different than a tree with leaves. The leaves drop off and new leaves are grown . Sometimes a whole branch dies but the tree lives on . On until itt too as a whole dies off. humans are not trees , we are the leaves of the tree. We drop off no differently but some day the tree called humanity will pass away and other trees will take our place . Its a cycle we have been through countless numbers of times.

thing is , i was never taught by any spiritual masters .. not directly in full anyway . just small amounts of truth i picked up from a life time of looking by many others . If i could relate to it in my own life , then it was a true thing . i do both . subjectivly ( intellectually ) and objectively ( in the raw sense ) I do have the feeling of being trapped in emptiness at times but its a trap i know how to walk out of . I know too much to be trapped now. i havnt killed myself and dont plan on it anytime soon or ever . But some days it seems like I have both literally and figuratively. Im having way too much fun . both subjectivly and objectivly. Illusions are vanishing more and more progressivly now . but i do like your post

Perspective does exist but the dimension you say you view the planet from is an illusion. Its also the " Why not " you cant give me an example we can all relate too. Illusions are lies about reality. As soon as ypu spot the lie, the truth also presents itself in a yang attribute. MARBLEhEaD..... thx for the comments. Between yes >

the sun goes up and then goes down . Illusion ? can you give us an example of the " another dimension " ? what does it look like from another dimension?

can you give us a real life example that we can all relate to ? How is your fact a fact ? what do you mean by subject/object .? i dont see how is><isnt, is a false duality. can you explain ? thank you for your comments

wait , what ? non duality ? in our universe ?. and whats the ten thousand . ? whats the one ? whats your definition of the tao ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao thx bro !!

illusions are there in many places. as soon as you spot on itll vanish. like the illusion of time time starts in the future and is suspened in the present by the past future is yang >< Yin is the past present time is whats generated between them both and its what we see feel touch ect . its the physcal universe that everyone is scratching their heads at wondering how the heck do all this stuff get here. ? its simply yang meeting yin . life forms tend to do the same stuff every day like walk, sit , stand, blink, swallow, speak, listen, feel, look around and much more. we did it yesterday and well do it again tomorrow. If we just look at the past present and futre of what we do every day simultainiously , the illusion of time will begin to vanish . Its just allot of doing the same stuff all the time. every thing comes from the future. It all came from the future and landed in the present where we see it now. Its being suspended by the past of this universe. without the past there would be no present time because all things would not stop at the present , they would keep going and vanish like an unwanted casual thought. the future many will say has not come yet. its comming soon tjhough. It always does. when a woman has a baby it comes from the future like all things have. when you vanish the illusion of time , you can trace all creations to the origin but youll be tracing everything back into the future where everything came from . Not the past The past and future are the same . Present time is the illusion . the purpose of this thread is to understand the differences of reality and illusions and similarity too. when the illusion is revealed for what it is, it becomes as real as reality and they both vanish as soon as you take your attention off it . Reality ( yang ) will not exist without the illusion ( yin ) holding it in place in the present . the planet is a yang yin spectrum as well its high pressure solidity with extreme heat at the core and low pressure transparent cold air at the other side of the spectrum . a city has consentrated populations at the core of a city made of solid concrete and then thins out into the suburbs and country sides and softness , just like our planet . illusions come in many ways . Anyone want to share some theyve noticed ?

an illusion is a thing we cant see and a lie is something else we cant see . we also cant see the back of a thing while facing the front of it . illusion lie back all yin. when we see the illusion, as an illusion it becomes yang and vanishes. when we see the lie , it becomes truth and vanishes. when we see the back of a thing it becomes the front and the back vanishes. when you view mountains in the distance you dont see the back . front always faces fronts . when you realize its a painting of mountains , the illusion of demension and depth vanishes and it becomes a real 1 demensional painting.

I once met a physicist who did not understand the basic law that governs all things and life in the universe. Or even the concept of positive and negative. So he decided to learn from masters of the Tao . Who know.

Thx GIH, different, but Interesting . Ive never heard it being defined as cognition without location . I like the without location though.

Good for you Brian , can you tell me , how do you know which is yin and which is yang ? This is my qiestion.

Thx for the comment, The law of duality is somthing i specialize in . Ive mastered it to a degree. So, Im a tao master to the dame degree that it relates to taoisum. Youre certainly free to consider duality BS . Its your choice, not mine. I love It. I know of others who also find it interesting..

Ya funny , hitting the floor that is . We can actially see others thoughts and show them ours. I only say that from experience. Many times its a little starting for others and they look at me with a stange look on thier faces. For a long time too. But usually, others dont see others thoughts, true.

yes , read the section under my avatar . I am a master of the Tao . a real one . Nice to meet you . the law of duality is the basic law that governs the universe from the beginning of time . no thing in the universe is not governed by the LOD except for life and life is not a thing . Life is the creator of all things in the universe. But even life governs itself using the LOD . It can go outsdie the law , just as easy as you can run a stop sign while driving . you can only lie about the past .....yin you can not lie about the future ....yang you can not change the past, but you can change the future . if someone says im going to the base ball game , you can change that if they say i went to the baseball game , you cant change that . once you understand the basic principals of life and the universe , you too can be a master of the tao

where is the mind located ? does a chair have a mind ? if no then " without a mind" is an option you can consider any things to be physical or not but the consideration does not make it so . you can consider a thing non existent or existent , its either does of it doesnt , its a legal matter . called law of duality there is life , non physical and there is everything else that life creates that is physical. its life who has capacity , not mind. The mind is a created thing , created by life the creator of all things. a mental image of a chair is as physical as a chair you sit on but the only difference is one is more solid than the other . They are both physical . mental images of things are no differemt in terms of physical things . they are both made of same physical universe particles . solidity is determined by the amount of particle in proximity to one another .

what is a considration made of ? is a thought a physical thing? how about a mental image of a chair / physical ?