TaoMaster

can you add more detail to this ? yang and yin being the same thing ? how so ? perhaps a couple real life examples of this we can relate to ? yes but it wasnt that way in the begining order comes first then chaos. its comes after all order . which ones? reference please and how do they help ? day and night do complete a circuit . Circuit is derived from the word circle but day and night also oppose each other and the opposition generates motion round and round day and night day and night over and over . Its the universes natural generator that keeps things going . men and women oppose each other. men yang woman yin but they also complete a circuit and that generates a new life form . yang yin do both , oppose ( yin ) and complete ( yang ) like a car battery has + and - it generates power but without one of the other it generates nothing. yes sadly but like alllife forms and this universe is a life form btw , it starts small , grows up , gets old dies and falls down , theres no exception to this rule . the universe you see around you today is in its dying stages but thats ok there will be a new one and the whole things starts over again . up and down up and down yang and yin yang and yin its as never ending as life , the creator of the universe . robin williams once said , " i have bad news . the world is entering an ice age . the good news is that we are all gonna have free Daiquiris " or something like that . so how do we determine, how do we know what is yang and what is yin ? whats the formula ?

thx , correct , no single thing or pole of the yang yin generates another thing. Its takes two . like genrates like and dislike genrates dislike when you like me I like you and when I like you , you like me when you hate me I hate you and when i hate you you hate me back its a duality law thing. and there are exceptions to this depending on the degree like and dislike its not just about me and you either. we will hate or like others even tho its not the others who are hating or likeing us. you can like me and since i cant like you back i will like someone else. same applies to hate I think many have the karma thing wrong sometimes karma is this when you like a person and let them know , they will like you back when you hate a person and let them know they will hate you back . when you get this interesting dualitic law understood , you will know exactly what to do when a person hates you . Like them back it wont be easy at first but it works . It generates a really crappy sensation too . its alomst impossible to like someone back when theyve socked you in the nose in a fit of anger and hatred. The dulistic urge is to sock them back . any form of yin will do this My house was broken into by a thief ( Yin ) took my ipad and an old cell phone and broke the back door to my house. I knew who was involved and I wanted to tear their heads off and feed them to a pack of wild pigs I was so ( yin ) angry . Having done so I would have felt better ( yang ) but it never happened . this isnt about psychology its about law plain and simple . It always has been the duality law but the illusion is that its a psychological matter. Psychologists make a ton of money from this stuff and even they do not see through the illusion . Psych means spirit, ology means to study . But its not spiritual . Its a legal matter . Peace!

take a drum stick and hit the symbol or press the key on a piano keyboard. when the two points come together it GENERATES sound. exactly like generating electricity and all other matter in the universe. Everything in the universe is generated . Hit a key on a piano , it strikes a wires and a sound is generated . when yin hits yang , a " thing " is generated . our bodys are electrical and like light bulbs and all other things in the universe will " burn out " like the bulb . the present time physical universe is generated by the past and future getting close to each other. Yang is the future and yin is the past if you hit two rocks together it generates a spark between them . The spack is present time . its not thing ive read about , its something I know to be true from my experiece with as the 1 it looks like this yang+>matter+>energy+>+sensation-<-energy<-matter<-yin sensation energy matter are the physical universe in present time yang and yin are the future and past. theres no exceptions to this . None evreything and every one is made of yang and yin generation positive and negative the north pole on the planet is positive and the south is negative how do I know which is which ? yang is on top north and yin is on the bottom south east is yang and west is yin how do i know ? yang always comes first and yin comes last the sun rises in the east and sets last in the west . you guys probally wont beleive this but you are some the first to get this information on the planet . no one elese that I know of has it . its not published anywhere. nice eh ? you will not find this truth in ANY book or internet its a common truth and yet its no where to be found except here and 2 other forums im a member of . it showed the other forums the same things as im showing you now . take the positive side of a car battery and touch it to the negative side . it generates a spark until it burns out and then not spark. The other interesting thing about this universe is that no two things EVERY touch and there is no exception to this rule . there is always a space between yang and yin . when you step on a thorn and bleed , the thorn never actually made contact with your foot . The pain you felt is sent electrically to the brain . Things only come close to each other but never make contact. like the two poles of a car battery . They never touch but they do generate spark when close. everything from the smallest dot , speck of dust , cars boats trains and planes planets moons galaxcies and sun ...... are made of yang and yin without exception and can be used to trace all the way back to the creator of all things in the universe. its a binary construct .everything inthe universe is binary ........ 2...... yang and yin no color doesnt matter , but it is sybolic ( black and white ) and there are no coincidences in the universe . car battery DC current is red and black , red yang , black yin . you wont find yang and yin in physical terms , without each other . as soon as you do it vanishes. no two thiings ever touch and no two things can occupy the same space . When it does , itll vanish by the law of duailty . The LOD states there must be 2, yang and yin for a thing to be .

its just an analogy as it relates to the law of duality. as far as light bulbs go? AC stands for alternating current . it goes back and forth with a rate of frequency . It uses the black and white wires and a ground which connects to white like my avatar heres a reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_current http://rockawayrecycling.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/romex-wire-150x150.png http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/semester2/d21_dimmer.html i use to be an electrical contractor . about 30 years or so now im a master of the tao . i liked your post , made me laugh . the one with the human body but no mind anywhere to be found. did he hit a home run of foul ball ? Im pretty sure most people that i know of , in american anyway, consider the mind in the brain . its pretty well taught that way from the first day of life and all the way to the end. I used to consider having a mind too so called emotions are also goverened by the law of duality , like evrything in the universe. example when we really love+ someone and really care+ about them and they get hurt- we feel bad- about it when we really hate- someone and really dont care- about them and they get hurt- we feel good+ about it when someone we love goes away we feel bad when someone we hate goes away we feel good its pretty simple once you get the hang of it . notice the plus and minus ? theses feeling have nothin to do with education , being raised by parents a certain way , if you are male of female or anything other than the LOD emotions may seem to be mental but are in fact very physical and govererned by the law of duality , Yang+ and yin- yes , if you step on a nail barefooted an electrical message is sent to the brain , Thats what its for . its the Hub for the whole body . Its at the top and centered. The brain has a very specific purpose and has two sides yang and yin . one side for each side of the body

what is the mind and where is it located ? does the mind generate thought ? is the mind aware of things? can it be in control ? thx for your comments

thx , pretty sure thats the case with most others too . I certainly didnt pay much attention to it until recently . Its was just a little black and white symbol for temporary tattoos on Fremont street here in las vegas. turns out to be amazing beyond my wildest imagination . its in everything and its every where from the begining to the end . Its in songs , spots, trees, people , words, dirt, dust, dogs and cats , the sun and the moon and galaxcys , stars , walnuts , home crackers too. me and you . in fact there is nothing that escapes it other than life . Even then life is like everything yang and yin . Life as in the eternal toa and the creator of all things . Some call god and pray to from time to time . but never get a call back . the all but elusive spiritual being that put everything we see now .....here

good points, male><female and extremes , interesting for sure . waxing philosophic? no problem . ive heard about staying cenetered and keeping things balanced is better that being yang all the time or yin all the time or ost yang or mostly yin . i see allot of that in my own life , and others. but what if you have 20 lifetimes of mostly yang and 20 of mostly yin . is that not also being balanced ? if you had a choice of living your life mostly on the yang side vs yin side which would you choose? lets say , i hit the like button on everyones posts. ( like is yang ) would it not become meaningless after a while ? same with Yin or no coment in this case since there is no hate button ( aka dislike ) no one wants to hate do they ? every one wants to like dont they ? still curious about dropping the g off the yang but its no big deal , its just anothet word for the same thing . i have not studied any tao in this life time so anyone who has some references to yang and yin , please post it up . the more the better . Mainly to compare it to what i know about it already . as you know ive already changed the symbol and turned it on its side and removed the black and white circles. may need to turn it a little more to the left to keep it balanced. so the big question if all things anre eithe yang or yin that make a thing whole how do we know whats yand and whats yin ? how do we know if right or left is yang or yin anyone ? thx !! good points fo sho , home cracker thx the eternal tao that can not be spoken of ( aka life, the creator of all things ) ( aka you and me non physical .....spiritual ) for some its not easy to spaek of things that do not exist in the universe yet still exists in a spirit , The 1 , the creator of all things cab certainly be refered to and can be known very well . The 1 knows us very well . It knows anything it wants to know .....or not know. The 1 has in fact total freedom of chioce . Theres no freedom more free than that . Its absolute . The eternal Tao is also absolute and can be Yang or yin to any degree . any ability , any level so to speak . someone had to create it , the universe that is . a back does not scratch its self . how do we communicate with the eternal tao ? it never speaks back . so how did the exteral tao come to be ? when ? a back does not scratch its self. better not go there yet back to the topic . how can we know what is yang and what is yin and even if we do know , how will that make a difference ? I see earth and our whole universe as the central point between the yang and yin . the future ( yang ) is heaven , the present time is earth and the universe ( center ) and the past ( yin ) is hell yang and yin do not make contact . ever........... and yet they complete each other as a whole . theres a tiny space between yang and yin , You wont see it with human eyes but its there . you will see earth and the universe with human eyes and other sences. but when you you at the whole past and the whole future in comparison , present time is almost impossible to see. Like looking at the space between my black and white avatar. see it ? me neither . the past is pessimism and the future is optimism google the definitions for both , its worth your time . when you trace yang and yin all the way back to the source of all creation , yang and yin flip and all things that were once yang become yin but ill go into more detail on that latter . i think the world would be copletely different if yang and yin were taught to children from like age 2 and up until their 8th year in college . Completely different . What a goal that would be i think ill do that next life time . even tho its already been done .

never heard of the koan until now but your post makes sence. dont worry about the past or future.? not a bad idea Its easier said than done for allot of people but for some its pretty easy to do . the past and future are in conflict with each other and also complete each other. the future is yang and the past is yin they are stacked from top to bottom not side by side. Yang is always on top and yin is always below. . Its how the heaven and hell concept came to be . Heaven above and hell below. yang and yin the future comes first even tho for many it seems like it has not arrived yet . Or its still coming so to speak . everything that existstoday came FROM the future. its stacked from the top down and its the why behind gravity . easy to prove it too the past can be known just as easy as the future or the other way around . Many beleive only the past can be known because the future has not come yet and it doesnt exist . its a pretty common consideration if you ask some others about it . They both exist ( or do they ?) and they can both be known just as easy as the other. the closer to the past- from the present the easier it can be known . the closer to the future+ from the present , the easier to predict. Can you know somthing that happened 5 minutes ago ? how about 30 trillion years ago ? can you know something that will happen in the next five minutes ? how about 30 trillion years from now into the future. ? the future ( yang ) and the past ( Yin ) are simply two poles of the same spectrum called time. when you remove time, the past and present vanish as well . when you get really good at it you can easily know what you want in the future , from the future so to speak, and pooooof , it appears. when you get really good at it you can make the past vanish and poooof its gone. but first you must totally understand the yang and yin .

thx man, so whats all the significance of yang and yin , yin yang ? is it yan or yang ? thelerner i know its an ancient symbol but how does it relate to life in the universe? Daeluin can you chime in too?

reality >< Illusion are two poles of the same thing the reality comes first , its the truth and then the illusion that says its the true reality when its not . Its the lie. if an illusion is real then every thing that is real ( everything ) is also an illusion. The only thing ( and its not actuallty a thing ) that is real is life , the creator of all things . Everything else.......... ( which is everything in the universe ) is the illusion. Life ( yang ) comes first , then Yin, lifes creations. Life IS all of the yang attributes and Yin is created by life to oppose itself .

every thing is where it is and put there when it was. Thoughts are created , held in place and then vanished from existence. Vanished from where they were put and when they were put there. For me its usually in front of me . Like a computer keyboard is put in front of my human eyeballs. life forms are just physical reflections of the 1 spiritual life spiritual Life can see, hear, touch, smell , feel, sence, etc etc and so can our physical life form bodies. My life form has eyes in the front and spiritually i preceive thoughts in the front too. you mean its an illusion ? no appoligies needed but thx anyways

the illusion and whats real are both perceivable by life. They are both " things " even if the illusion is a thing that is not real its still perceivable by life and that makes it real . a real illusion . Let me ask you this Can you see an illusion ? Can you see a real thing or something real ? both of them ? are they both, not real ? are they both, real ?

first off to the mods who asked me to use the multi quote feature. I will try but some times I read others posts and dont feel like comentiong on them or replying to them and then latter when re reading them , i have a reply i want to share . its a timing thing but whenever i can, i will most certainly use the multi quote . Unfortunatly this is not one of them so sorry to say .. so in reply to ST light and darkness are in fact the same item like youve mentioned as darkness being a frequency of light we can perceive. YES yove got it . look at light as having a dimmer switch to dim a light bulb. the frequency of light is the highest when the light is the brightest and its viritually off when the frequency is the lowest . when we remove the light dark dual package , theres no light and no dark . Theres nothing. like wise when you remove the darkness , theres only light . light is yang dark is yin . yang always comes first thx for your post

ok no worries ill be here when you do

Hey guys thx for the replays , Beyonder , no problem , I understand completely . LaoZiDao, I went to the link , thanks for including that . When I got to the the guys answer where he referred to humans as " souls " I had to leave the page . It's not a bad thing . I used to be convinced of that too. And before that I didn't even know anything about spirituality . Earlier this year , I had the experience to be one with all spiritual life in existence. It was amazing . It was then that I realized there's only one life , one soul, one spiritual being for all life forms , not separate would for each life form . If someone were to tell me this prior to this year I would have said oh really .? Ha what a goof ball. I know I'm a spiritual being key word being the letter A , and you are a spiritual being as well. We are separate beings just like we have separate bodies. There was no doubt no question . Just like prior to 1982 when I had a full blown out of body awareness experience. It was like wow, I'm not my body and my thoughts and spiritual being can leave the body and return to it. Like when the body dies so to speak . My son got hit by a car when he was 5 and he told me he left his body too when it happened. Fortunately he was ok and just had a couple bruises. But last Feb I went out of body and rejoined all life as in one with all life . Spiritually . Life as I call it is a spiritual being , just one spiritual being for all life forms everywhere. It's just another progression in my spiritual awareness. First no spirit just body , then latter it became spirits and body's and finally one spirit for all body's. What's next ? I wish I could tell you . when i know i will tell you . Here's a little analogy. When a person walks into a room and it's dark , they turn the lights on to see. So they assume that in the beginning of creation , it was all dark and THEN there was light. Mainly because they are so used to living in the physical universe and have very little knowing of the spiritual aspects of life . So like the guy who , like me at one time , has and had the understanding that each body has a individual soul, mainly because he is so used to living in the physical universe with individual bodys. You'll see when your body dies, you'll just rejoin so to speak with all life again and that's that. It's the way it's always been and will always be . When we dream and then wake up from the dream completely , can you go back to the dream you were just having? Life outside the physical universe is no different. When we die , or our body's die , can we go back and live with the same body again? Like the dream , we can go back if we don't wake up all the way but of we do then no. Our body's are the same way . Once we die completely , no going back . Some how or another , I went all the way "dead" but my body didn't die and I came back from being one with all life as if I died completely . I was doing my meditative exercise and looked at the self and others dual package and colapsed it completly . When i did , spiritual others vanished and by the law of duality there must be two poles for a thing to exist in this universe. POOOOF ! i was back to being just self and no other or in other words self and all others too. It has been thee most amazing spiritual experience to date and at the top of the top for me . The voodoo religion for example in convinced that there are three body's for each soul. I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it. True reality must be experienced , not instructed. Mine included. When i read about the three body concept I was like..... oh come on . Thats horse radish nonsence. Well now in hindsite they are much closer to my reality than most others Ive heard to talked to . my experience, my reality is one soul for all life forms . The 1 is very self aware too . All knowing and all the yang attributes to the fullest degree and the fullest sence of the words. Absolute in every posible way with limitless ability and no exceptions. Thats life in the spiritual form. Im in no way refering to life forms . Those are physical forms created by life . Spiritual life has no creation . it wasnt created , its always been and will always be . Awareness has levels. The above is the top of the top in awareness level. Thats not my awarness as i write this post but the awareness can be reachived by me when i need it to . I keep in my back pocket so to speak and pull it out when the going gets tuff. im here now , ( and i know this sounds spiritually narcissistic ) but im here to have conversations with ant like life forms and the best way to do that is to become an ant. Only the ants are human. Please dont take this the wrong way . Im a human too . Have you ever tried communicating with an ant ? good luck with that . If you stomp on their ant hill or nest, youll have communicated with them as youll notice they are moving allot faster in a panic to survive. Its like the admiral sounded general quaters on a battle ship. Im in the same boat now with humanity and i know stompimg is not the best way to comunicate from my experience. In many ways its like talking to myself. Or playing a game of ping pong by myself. Theres only me and others who are also really me . Insane? not to me but to others? oh very insane. So be it . I know what I know . I knd of view others who dont know what I know as the insane ones but I dont dislike anyone. I pose my questions in a retorical way yes. Its just a way to start a conversation . No harm really. Sanity ( yang ) and insanity ( yin ) are just two poles of the same item . Life can choose which side it prefers at any given time. Then be on it . Or sit nicly between the two poles like it can and does with any other pole it choses. " It " being life, the creator of all things. Read all my posts and threads. There arnt that many . When you do youll get a much better understanding of who I am and why im here . Or not, its your choice. I can show you a way to becoming one with all life but if youre not interested or consider me a lunatic or both then thats fine too This is why i say I totally understand. Because I do .

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Hey Chidragon, I didn't include you in a multipost reply on my last post because you posted after I had started it . In case the mods want to know. But do this next time you're in pain. Go to a room with silence and no others . Sit down and focus on the feelings of discomfort with your eyes closed. Then put those unpleasant feelings around you 360 over and over again until it either goes away or lessens . If it just lessens, get a drink of water , come back in a few minutes and continue over and over. Sometimes it will vanish after a few seconds. Sometimes a few minutes, sometimes not, but it's worth trying.

Thx Rara, It's not an easy question to answer. Like let's say , how old are you or are you a man or a woman or do you live in china or USA. I read so many others posts and articles around the world where others have completely got it misdefined. The word defined is derived from the word definition. From definition we get the word definite and from that word finite It's like if I tell you a story about a dog chasing a cat up a tree , and you tell someone the story and they tell someone the story , but the time it gets to the 100th person the story is completely different than how it started out to be . Maybe even the cat chasing the dog up the tree. The current definition of the mind seems to be a combination of spiritual and physical. The word psychology means the study of the spirit but over the years it has degenerated into something that has nothing to do with spirituality . In the USA it's just another way to make a fast buck from others who are in mental pain. Conscious is another word with the same meaning as awareness, correct. Mindful and mindless is another word for careful and careless. Im not one to consider accidents as a true incident . Nor coincidence. Nor subconscious. Subconscious is just not knowing or unaware and these are choices we make . No problem there. Accident and coincidence as well . Same thing. We can act and be unaware of our actions but that does not excuse us from not being responsible for them . I've spent much of my life time being unaware of things I'm aware of now and I'm sure there is allot I'm not aware of that I do today . For me it's more like doing something and not assigning a reason why for doing it and then not knowing I've done it . ( after ) That's how I define subconscious. We can know just as easy as not know We can hate just as easy as we can love We can sleep just as easy as we can be awake We can understand just as easy as misunderstand We can get up just as easy as sit down We can speak just as easy as we can be silent. Some of us can and some of us can not Some of us want to and some of don't Some of is must and some of us must not. Life is very simple but it becomes complicated and confusing when the definitions are misdefined.

i dont consider myself having a mind and from what i see many will confuse the mind with life , the spiritual creator of all things. its not mind body and soul for me its more like soul+ and body- . soul is yang and body is yin . yang always comes first and the yin . no exceptions. the so called mind is whats between the two in a physical form . its a little of both in a way . the mind is not thought. thoughts are a physical creations from life (aka the soul ) theres no morning afternoon and evening . theres only day and night . day is yang and night is .......anyone ?Bueller ? anyone? yin . theres no winter spring summer and fall , theres only summer+ and winter - when the sun rises its day time and when it sets its night time. thats it . period. the sun rises+ first+ , yang and sets- last- yin . we wake+ in the morning + and we sleep- at night - we are aware+ when we are awake+ and we are unaware- when we sleep- there cant be awake with asleep . not becaus eof human nature , its the law of duality at work here. its mankind that has sturred the kettel into a state of confusion and then passed it onto its children and then degenerated further to their children and so on . its not about affermation + and denying- the yang and yin . its about sorting out whats yang and whats yin . it will vanish all confusion . instantly so this is why ive provided the meditatiion excercise of yang yin . not to deny nor affirm . its not something you study , its about vanishing the lies and illusions thru meditational exercises when you collapse a dual package ( yang and yin ) the yin will vanish and the yang will empower you . theres only thoughts and no thoughts. when a flower is born+ it grows+ up+ gets old- falls- down- and dies-. its the same for all life forms in the universe including the planets which are also life forms. the planet we are on started out small, it grew and some day it will die . i use the + and - next to the words for a better understanding just befor i hit the send button yang is + yin is - its a binary universe of yang and yin . anything other than that is just a cocktail mixture of the two items . the execise of forming yang and yin is simply a way to sort the universe out for what it is ( truth ) and vanish the lies it contains. get to understand the true nature of the universe and you will also understand and get to know life the creator of the universe. i didnt read this stuff from a book or on the internet . I vanished lies and illusions revealing the turth and reality I didnt know any of this stuff untill last febuary and im knowing more and more as i continue to vanish lies and illusions . you can too and i hope you do . how? do the drills . ive posted how to do them on previous threads and posts and thats all i can do for anyone . but im here to help anyone too . we can go back and forth like a game of ping pong until the end of the universe but until you do the drills yourself , we wont get very far with it . in fact itll just get worse.

The mind is a created thing that does not know . But rather its known by its creator .................life, the creator of all things. Life is spiritual in nature. its creator of all things that put the mind there and its the creator who will vanish it .

reality is yang and illusion is yin reality comes first then the illusion . this is the basic law that governs all life and all things in the universe . the law of duality . when you fully understand the yang and yin you will fully understand everything there is to understand. the sooner+ you get to it+ the better + the longer- you wait- the worse. - its pure logic and as simple as simple gets yang = + and yin = - theres nothing more to this or anything every created by life in the universe than this its as basic as basic gets to get a better understanding of this you can start forming dua packages of yang and yin. its not hard to do and once you get started youll be amazed at what you didnt know but now do. youll want more and as you get a better understanding your ability will increase and you knowledge , your happiness, and all the other yang attributes. theres nothing more i can say but to take this journey yourself . It must be this way , there is no other way . your are already on that journey , if you were not you would not be here today reading this . its a very personal journey and you wont be taking others with you . they must also walk alone on their own journey as I have and am right now . even if you walk with another on the same journey you are still walking alone , but just side by side with another.

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light and dark are two poles of the same spectrum. when you remove the spectrum of light and dark both will vanish from existence. no darkness and no light . there can be no light without dark and no dark without light. light+ is yang+, dark- is yin- . pretty simple Yang always precedes yin but it happens virtually in an instant. light><dark ...... like my avatar theres no need no value in the little black and white circles within each half. in order to have an absoluteness there must be an inabsolutness. the yang+ >< yin- symbol is absolute perfection ( yang+ ) and inperfection ( yin- ) are all things inperfect that oppose perfection. .

No one has ever made me laugh as hard about things that are so trivial than he did . He could come up with humor out of thin air and hand it to you in ways that would make you laugh so hard it would bring tears to your eyes. He is with all life again . He'll always have my admiration. I truly feel the pain from his loss : ( so long bro .

yes as a matter of fact or make up a mind in other words thx for your comment , i like it children are yang ,, they come first, adults are yin they come last . You can get much truth from asking children questions like this. They havnt been " programed " yet, also known as brainwashed, hynotized , falsely educated etc. Children are my favorite people. I have 2 "a child is born with a heart of gold + but the way of the world makes their heart grow cold -" earth, wind and fire wow there seem to be so many different kinds of minds . criminal mind, reactive mind, analitcial mind, dirty mind, conscious mind, subconscious mind, role playing mind, etc etc, probally more that i havent mentioned. open mind, closed mind. creative mind.