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  1. Are thogal visions nimittas?

    Ngondro is a Tibetan invention. But the practices of prostrations, Vajrasattva recitation, mandala offering, etc, are Indian. What's Asian and not Indian is setting up a Herculean number of each to complete. Remember this Herculean number to complete was the Tibetan accomodation for the Herculean feats Indian masters imposed before teaching, like jumping off of cliffs or living for years on an island in the middle of a poison lake infested by starving dogs. If you think karma will not throw up huge obstacles despite your best efforts to avoid them you will come to wish a master had forced you into hard labor instead. This is the tantric approach of putting yourself in the masters hands. In dzogchen, the master puts you in control. That doesn't make it any easier.
  2. you won't meet a teacher in your dream unless you want to; there must be that connection; my teachers are happy with my report of my experience
  3. For me it was like seeing with my own eyes.
  4. Are thogal visions nimittas?

    They do. They are the fire and wind element metabolism, mixed w earth, food, water, blood and awareness, space. These refine into colored lights. Seeing these colors rigpa arising from the basis. Herein lies the magic.
  5. It was a clear appearance. Like a first person shooter,meeting different beings. Then realizing these were iterations of reflections.
  6. Are thogal visions nimittas?

    Yes this is. But also talks about this in the Upa-Kilesa Sutta. Buddha talks about beautiful forms. And what stops the beautiful forms are all the hopes and fears related to samsara. But that if one can remove all those hindrances then the beautiful forms don't stop. And this is enlightenment. But there is no distant instruction about this forms as such. It's full import does not begin to be described until the inner dzogchen tantras. The Theravada meditation manuals talk about kalapas. Dots of light. This is becoming a more Yangti flavor.
  7. Yes you get it. I had number theory teacher who was a strong proponent of Sankara. Specifically he believed there was an absolute ground of being. Mathematicians think of the world of mathematics as a separate and distinct objective world. Smart people can manage many views. Even contradictory ones. Yes because in the final analysis the mind has no basis means we muck it up or clear it up. We are doing it either way. Practicing daily mindfulness is very helpful. If you keep in mind that root of action is in the mind, and that actions have consequences with strong moral and ethical implications on many levels, One will feel more motivated to keep up to speed on what is happening in the mind. When the meditation is on cause-and-effect the mind becomes very motivated to keep up to speed on everything going on within itself.
  8. Free of suffering can make you high a little for a while. Imagine you have on your boots too tight overnight. In the morning your feet are sore. So you take off your boots. You get a sudden rush of pleasure. But it is only the pain leaving the feet. The body senses pain leaving as pleasure. This is one of the illusions. In subtle form there is a pleasantness known as absence of pain. Awakened beings know this can become a wrong turn in meditation. It's not the awakened state. The awakened state is what knows this was because of boots on too long. that sudden realization about the source of suffering.
  9. I'm still okay with defending myself using force. But I try to use my personality to defend me first. As they say one friend is one less enemy.
  10. Problems with practicing alone

    Look at who is dreaming and why.
  11. Definitely love Kung Fu. Lifetime of passion for martial arts. I didn't get to learn enough internal style. My Dzogchen interest was something I didn't talk about until a recent meeting with my teacher. I want to say more but even today I had my screen freeze when I tried. I take this as a sign to say less.
  12. He travels too. I have practiced for my whole life.
  13. My practice is day and night practice of yangti.
  14. A teacher Taklung Tsetrul. I have the transmissions and experience.
  15. Dispensed rarely on a well timed occasion.
  16. If one is a Dzogchen practitioner, pressure is aided by drinking beer, maybe eating some bitter fruit, maybe eating some medicine like Bimala, relaxing in water, looking out at clear blue sky and continuing to see the lights and appearances of rigpa.
  17. oh too long academic book
  18. Vajra strands

    Sorry. Beginning of Book II The Practice of Tregchö "First of all we should get into the right state for the essential ripening of the mind. For this purpose it is necessary to receive the initiation. However, if you come through this preliminary practice you will receive initiation with the practice itself." Then it is restated in footnote 1. "Lopon comments that when you receive initiation it is to show you the natural state. Afterword you can check whether you received anything by seeing whether you then perfectly understand the natural state. However, if you do the preliminary practices you will see the natural state. So that is the initiation in itself." Heart Drops page 51
  19. There are twenty something or more ways to describe lamps from the terma texts. It is better to make generalizations. The pristine absolute space is always referring to the Dharmata, nature of mind as open and clear, kadag. It's not a chakra or a Bindu. Thodgal also does not mean a form of gazing. It is a mode of liberation. It is also referring to lhundrub, the five lights which are also the nature of mind. Sometimes thogal will make use of gazing into sky to reveal vajra chains. But by the second vision it is not necessary. In some teachings one sits in dark to make visions appear. Gazing up is optional. It's true I'm not going to use quotes. Those are easily misinterpreted, as you are doing. I assure you Thogal is the practice of resting in the nature of mind as a mode of liberation. And it does so without involving the two side channels and the chakras. What it's really doing is dealing with the true nature of the sense organs in the head.
  20. Vajra strands

    At the end of the section on Rushen
  21. Anapanasati takes breath as the object in a gradual path of traversing various samadhis until one arrives at the wisdom of the twelve links of dependent origination and the cessation of perception. Zen belongs to the Mahayana so it has a different set of levels in the path than Theravada. Zen is supposed to leap-frog the Mahayana levels if one has transmission from a qualified lineage, and one is said to rest at the 10th Bhumi. Dzogchen is the final level in Vajrayana, so Dzogchen will say that Zen will take you three countless eons to arrive at buddhahood. Vajrayana relies on initiation to do its leapfrogging. Where Dzogchen differs from everything else is it uses inner lights to achieve buddhahood quickly. This special concrete experience is something visible to the eyes so a huge lump of speculation and abstraction can easily be thrown out of the window. Most of the on-line debates and discussions revolve around speculations and abstractions. In fact all of Theravada and Mahayana are about abstractions and speculations. So Dzogchen is by far the superior vehicle to attain lasting peace of mind.
  22. Critical thinking can help one to arrive at the conclusion that self-made hells are very real. They exist on Earth as a consequence of foolish or destructive habits, Such actions and consequences are what is meant by karma. No one knows if consciousness exists or not, or if it might continue after the body dies, critical thinking cannot get rid of this possibility because there's not evidence. So one can at least assume there is a possibility of a self-made hell emerging as a consequence of extremely self-destructive thought patterns that will appear to oneself after one dies.
  23. The light is from the heart and emerges from the eyes. Thogal is the higher practice of non-meditation. Again, you are mixing up top and bottom so your remarks are wrong. The chains and bindus reside inside of the heart as it is explained. The connection with the eyes is that the Kati channels rise up from the heart, travel up the spine, up the sides of the neck, across the sides of the brain and terminate at the two eyes. Concentrating at the point between the eyebrows means they appear in front of you, but very close to you, as if between the eyebrows. The key feature of Thogal is that one is working with visual perception in a concrete way. The two channels, roma and kyangma which also travel up the sides of the body and terminate at the nostrils is what is related to the brow chakra. The lamp of pristine absolute space is not the brow chakra it is Trekcho. Finally, the quote from Manjushri relates to experiences from the practices of the path of transformation. Those are not related to Thogal. I'm afraid you have become mixed up.
  24. Vajra strands

    Another problem I see is that these texts talk about visions, as if they are a universal constant. However, it is not so. They are various. So a practitioner could be doing better than they think simply because they are expecting elaborate visions which may not occur. Also the texts talk about the fourth vision as if the visions dissolve or disappear. But this is also not so. The body disappears at death. This is what the fourth vision is referring to. Tremendous wasted effort is spent due to these simple misunderstandings. If one wants to practice the combined paths of transformation and Dzogchen in a very well-kept lineage, then of course one should follow the traditional route. But if one wants to practice Dzogchen in a very simple way, one can also do that. It's important to keep in mind that one has to keep one's practice a secret. Discussing it will ruin one's path because one will become the servant to so many distractions.