Bud Jetsun

All perception for all beings arises from the abyss, this is inescapable as an effect of ultimate reality being Nothingness. Thoughts have a propagation time that corresponds with a beginning, middle and end, therefore a thought can't be in Now, what is in Now is the rising edge of unprocessed unrealized perception without delusion (like thought). For this reason, if you had a sense of self experiencing your fractal vision, it wasn't perception of the abyss, as there is no 'time-space-illusion' to be imaging to enable existence of self-illusion to persist. No human or animal consciousness has ever experienced being outside the abyss, however very few have experienced a state capable of perception of the abyss they have never entered nor never left. You will know you have approached the abyss when the summation of all fears is manifested and reflected back at you. This is when the 'sane' depart to preserve the illusion of 'sanity.' Entry to the perception can not be forced, and any struggle becomes indefeatable as whenever its your own mind you are battling, it's a stacked deck against any defense or offense you can pointlessly offer. The key to awareness of the perception is through surrender of ones own mind. The experience is so beyond what words could describe, it's playing a fools game to even attempt. What you described is more like what a tiny threshold dose of a psychedelic offers. Unlimited Love, -Bud

Much good wisdom, incomplete, but so is any arrangements of symbols. If you dont want to label your daily meditation as practice, that's fine, seems to be effective towards realizations of the nature of human reality. Its missing realizations that require perception beyond mind to empirically self-realize. However, from a pragmatic quality of human experience view, that is not a requirement, as you will find out irregardless when the minds moment receives it's singular entitlement. With unlimited Love, -Bud

If you lived by your own forum signature, could you suffer?

If one believes math exists somewhere beyond the minds of humans, did math give rise to reality/God or reality/God give rise to math? Either way, why would math be at best a system of non-relative construct approximations rooted in human observation/perception?

I have good news for you sir. Unlimited Joy is already available to you by will alone Now. There is no special clubs to join, no required secret password to chant, and there is nobody else who can do it for you, no matter how impressive the beard or beautiful the poetry. Lay down your delusions of knowing. Lay down all unforgiven burdens and choose to forgive all yet unarisen events. Realize why you deserve your compassion, and choose to appreciate your own perceptions of Now until your shirt is wet with tears of joy, then still continue if you like. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

As you know better than most Karl, I am extremely fortunate to live a dream to live my RnD passions as a gift to improve air quality for all earth bound living beings. No matter what 'misfortune' (because 1st world misfortunes are 3rd world fantasy), I would remain unable to suffer without consensually forfeiting realization of mindfulness to instead choose to trade it for the illusion of being a victim of my own mind to suffer. At some point it becomes a question of at which point do you choose to stop recognizing your thoughts are exclusively your domain. I wouldn't claim to rule out anything, but it seems extremely unlikely to choose to return to delusion after self-realization. If someone had merely told me I could only suffer my own minds choice to experience suffering, that awareness could be lost easily because it wasn't my awareness, it was my interpretation of someone else's realization. If one self-realizes Truth of the nature of reality, it would take choosing to not recognize reality and instead choose a path of self-delusion to suffer. Not impossible, but improbable if one chooses to continue to value compassion (Love-thought rather than fear-thought.) No matter what circumstances may or may not arrive, you don't have to face anything more than this one moment of Now that encompasses our human experience. I don't know if I could burn alive in Nirvana right now, as I've never tried it. I do realize if one is going to burn alive, it would be particularly compassionate to choose awareness of perfect mindfulness during the experience, and pointless self-torture not to. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

There is no objective condition that evokes suffering on a being, aside from the being choosing to believe they are experiencing suffering, and then override perception of Now with this inherently self-imposed delusion. Humans are taught to suffer, and impose it upon themselves to whatever extent they choose, completely irregardless of outside conditions. Someones "worst day" is someone else's ultimate dream fantasy life day, the difference is in the choice of perception. Suffering concludes in proportion to ones realization of mindfulness and compassion. Complete mindfulness, complete compassion (which is inherently a fearless state) can not suffer. Humans don't need some amazing new process or technology or some profound wisdom to not suffer. Just stopping choosing to suffer ones own delusions, and instead embracing perception of Now is more than adequate. Not suffering, and choosing to experience unbreakable peace doesn't require any outside resources or help, or even waiting until tomorrow. It is a gift you can give yourself through realization of mindfulness Now. These are the first low hanging fruits to pick to begin a path towards self-awareness and then awareness. Think less of finding a specific practice or teacher or book of wisdom, and more about removing the delusions you were choosing to replace perception of Now. Nirvana is already inside you waiting to be perceived, it only costs laying down your burdens of delusions to accept the gift that was always there waiting for you. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

Choosing this belief set as opposed to an alternative God-based belief set is equally making a faith based delusion your reality. Realize why you can't know anything, and why there is nothing to know. This realization offers liberation from delusion of human-knowledge of reality being reality. Many have already accepted the eyes generate an illusion derived from some perceptions of some reflected mystery consciousness-deterministic mystery called light. Why then do we take the 99.999999% emptyness with some unknown constructive/deconstructive energy pattern we perceive as "solid matter" to be something through human perception induced arrogance we assume to know so well. If you want to be logic and direct observation driven, QM in the clever interferometry experiments "solid matter" is undefined and unarisen prior to consciousness' participation/perception, as well as showing evidence of universal entanglement to the limits of a humans ability to test for it. Just realization of the double-slit working with light from distant galaxies focused through a telescope being indeterminate until a conciousness makes a choice of how to give rise to it, then it defines the path it took some number of billions of years ago. It doesn't require watching someone part the sea or walk on water to realize the humans concept of reality is built around a series of perception limited delusions. To jump to the conclusion of "knowing" is merely an alternative label to the same jump in delusion being made for any belief set, whether it be God/faith based or word/faith based or atheist/faith based, equally they are all products of human delusion to replace realization of Wisdom (not knowing). With Unlimited Love, -Bud

Realize the disobedient puppy is illusion, and perfect domain over your thought never could have lost. What departs is your perception of reality being ignored in trade for giving rise to illusions that someone/something else runs your thoughts for you. Unlimited Love, -Bud

This is the "logos" warping misunderstanding to choose to trade reality for word-delusion surrogate reality. "Logos" was the ineffable divine way, divine logic, the way a seed knows how to form a tree, the way a human eats and apple and without our guidance it becomes a human and a cow eats the apple and without the cow teaching it how to make a cow body, the same apple becomes a cow. The moment "Divine logic" (or any term to express any aspect of the nature of reality) is used, then the "Divine Logic" is lost and hence replaced by whatever humans can think up to define it as when people inquire about what they are defining when they say something like "logos". Through this path, the nature of reality and/or God became "Logos" logic of man's ability to describe and define (and hence replace in there reality model) what they can't fathom with what they can fathom. The human constructs then became the surrogate nature of reality/God etc. This "Logos" mis-translation/mis-perception/perversion experienced a few millennium of unrealized translation as an expression to be synonymous with the human construct "word" to the extent you can commonly find mis-translations proudly declaring "word" to be "God", and hence leading to masses of population thinking saying a word enough times makes them more "holy" or whatever belief/delusion set they are into. Fortunately, we have effortless access to higher awareness today, and this mis-perception of reality can die with each individual that raises there own awareness. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

Recognize it's only your mind to tame, nobody else can tame it for you, and be thankful of this, as it also means nobody else can untame it for you. Extruded discs and a broken neck that healed creatively caused many traditional meditation positions to be incompassionate to body. The right posture for you is the one in which you choose to embrace experiencing the unlimited wonders that await looking inside. For some this is laying prone in a bed or a comfy recliner chair etc. Once awareness of mindfulness is cultured, then any position and any place becomes a welcome option for meditation. Unlimited Love, -Bud

Neither human construct they have created defines what is a dolphin. Nor could it ever no matter how thoughtful the philosopher watching dolphins, or how meticulous the scientist dissects and analyzes all the tissues composing a dolphin. They are still both limited to the bounds of being some humans perception limited observations and delusion-made thoughts. Both are equally true to the limit of a humans ability to know human-truths. Both are equally non-Truth. There is no-thing to know. Letting go of the illusion one ever held the capacity to know more than our perceptions of Now is taking another step closer to reality. Unlimited Love, -Bud

I enjoy sitting next to ant hills or wasp nests or mosquito and tick heavy areas. Valuable in accepting all sensations are transitory and fleeting. Unlimited Love, -Bud

Greeks enjoyed the wisdom of realized beings wisdom. They used the arrangement of letters "logos" to describe the divine energy of nature that is part of a seed sprouting or a human eating that sprout and the body knowing without our guidance how to convert it into the remarkable self-replicating and adaptive device we call our "own body". Since that time, the term has been badly confused by unrealized to first mean logic of nature, then eventually man's own word construct arrangement delusions. Unlimited Love, -Bud

Remaining unbreakably peaceful and kind just requires realization it's always exclusively ones choice. That said, it's a surprisingly rare thing to actually get realized. When visiting a Zen school on a night they had an open public QnA with the multiple decade practiced master there. We had a 2 minute kindly phrased exchange of ideas regarding the nature of reality, at which point he suddenly lost his cool and ended the session with 20min remaining. What practical good was this 2 decades of effort on his suffering? Or why was this practice not able to culture mindfulness in kind discussion after so much time practicing? In my humble guess based on a small sample of delusional memories of experiences, it's only the often painful realization process that is the reason for practice.

When viewed as a tool, logic isn't a bad thing anymore than any other practice is a bad thing. If a pragmatic approach is taken, a logic powered Karl arrived at a state where he is able to choose to remain peaceful and kind, where many dogmatism powered failed to maintain kindness. The missing trick is realization not to replace the human constructed tools of logic or practices for reality. Remember, Buddha wasn't a Buddhist, he was a man seeking the nature of reality not a man seeking mindless repetition of some practice, or loops of intellectual construct play. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

Buddha was opposed to people writing his words down. However, through people remembering and someone elses interpretation into english, Buddha said ultimate Truth of reality is emptyness/nothingness. He also mentioned a cause of your suffering is the delusions it was ever more than that. With unlimited Love, -Bud

I have no doubt I have at least a dozen logically fallacies you have already analyzed and can blow holes through any combination of words I can type out with ease. I watched you singlehandedly out-logic-game a large group of people, many of whom are already much better than average at playing. You far exceed anything I can offer in your ability to highlight fallacy while cleverly not stepping in your own, and an impressively razor thin layer of delusion left compared to even most dedicated philosophers. In compassion, I just want to share awareness with you somehow that the razor of logic you've skillfully wielded to shave away so many delusions is a yet remaining delusion. You are master swordfighter who thinks his sword has become him rather than also being one of the delusions he needs to liberate himself from to get closer to approaching reality. It's an acceptance of the bounds of a system being limited to the pieces it's played with, and no amount of adding more pieces or more elaborate combinations of pieces equates reality. There is nothing to know. Reality to humans is a state of perception. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

While one chooses attachment, one will suffer his attachments. Many other folks who are far better poets have explained why this is in perhaps every book of religion and philosophy. Fortunately, there is no rule prohibiting you from acknowledging and embracing without fear that your body and everyone elses is a fleetingly temporary loan of some energy that will crumble to dust, nobody and no-thing escapes again becoming formless energy then becoming massive again and having an infinite loop of additional cycles as part of something/one. Universes and galaxies of galaxies only appear solid and stagnant on scales of feeble human perception limitations. It makes no difference if you accept impermanence or not, aside from choosing to suffer the delusion if one clings hard enough they somehow escape impermanence. To suffer requires the choice of a being to choose to experience suffering fear-rooted indoctrination/ignorance/delusion. Unlimited Love, -Bud

Karl my friend, I appreciate your valiant, even tempered and intellectual response. I pity those who choose to play the game of logic against you. One can't escape the confines of whatever belief set they have created as boundaries of possibility in reality without realization. In logic games, you can always take one step further (like a child asking "why?" repeatedly), and in the process construct a new layer of delusion to stack into the ever-growing model. This is why we live in a world where many books of philosophy and religion also carry the danger of serious damage to ones foot if dropped. However as an exercise that with luck may trigger self-realization, I ask you to momentarily imagine visiting our planet at a time when no being had yet taken the effort to create the human-construct of "words". With no words, there is no pieces to play the logic game. If your above hypothesis is true, that the logic game is the only option to interpret reality with, does it mean everything simply being in the wordless Now of perception has no reality? Even if a humble fruit-fly doesn't take the effort to become trained in the human created rules of playing the game of word-construct arrangements, he is still receiving his perceptions of Now and still operating in a reality better suited towards his purposes than we could ever understand in words as humans. If you peeled away all of a cultures history of words and meanings of arrangements of them, does one just vanish out of existence? Or does one still receive the same sense perceptions of Now while only missing the web of inherently non-Truth delusional human constructs? Ultimately, no matter what labels one wishes to attach to something as profound as being in reality, only the perceptions of Now remain as real, all of the constructed aspects remain inherently subjective delusions arisen as a choice to replace perception of Now. Reality to a humans ability to know it is your sense perceptions of this moment of Now, the rest some add upon that is your own personal series of delusions. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

For any arrangement of words to mean the same thing to two people, they would need to be the same consciousness. This makes the bounds of connotation inherently defined by the limitations of the perceiver's interpretational construct delusion of what some series of keystrokes means. This is why no matter how many books you read, and however far you follow the path of the logic tree, one does not shed living in delusions until transcending that which is word-construct describable and begin choosing to perceive the ineffable Now. For this reason, one may not 'brute-force-attack' with logic into enlightenment. Letting go of the word-thought delusion construct series is what some call surender. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

"Mindfully" is a series of symbols some identify as whatever they believe "letters" to be. "Mindfully" is a typed representation of whatever the perceiver of those letters interprets it to mean based on some elaborate set of rules they have made in there minds what is believably "mindfull." As "mindfully" is constructed of a series of human constructs that don't get realer just because they are combined, nor can a sentence get 'realer' because it is chain of these interpretation based construct delusions. For these reasons, it is not possible to convey the experience no matter how long I sit typing with intent to aid your liberation from suffering, I can still not escape any combinations of letters I type resulting in more than an arrangement of individual's subjective interpretation delusions appearing in your mind. Despite inherent futility of the effort, in compassion it is still worth making the attempt. Mindfullness expressed in constructs, looks like peeling back the illusion that it has ever been anyone but yourself handling every thought and whim and qwirk. Once you realize this, it is simply a matter of training yourself not to slip back into the illusion. This is not nearly as difficult as some make it to be, if you realize that to not is to suffer and/or cause suffering without purpose. Whatever that pattern of illuminated pixels representing some delusion constructs means as interpreted by your personal consciousness is up to you. The great ironic logical fallacy of trusting in logic to represent your concept of reality is in missing that logic is a set of rules for a game played using arrangements of interpretation-delusion constructs as game-pieces. What gives rise to the ability to choose to play the delusion-construct based games is inherently beyond the delusion based games. Again, this is my choice to futilely play within the confines of a word game to de-construct the illusion the word game was either reality or ever capable of being a faithful representation of reality. Intellectually it's an easy trap to logically rationalize the replacement of perception of reality with beautifully composed arrangements of construct-delusions that do not analog to any aspect of reality beyond whatever someone believes that construct delusion arrangement meets there constructed set of rules of the logic-game and whatever that means to them. With Unlimited Love, -Bud

Can a being that mindfully transcends fear-rooted thought still have cause to arise the illusion of suffering? (Illusion because the natural state has awareness beyond the capacity to suffer.)

The only enemy is choice to beleive illusion of un-mindfullness. If you are appreciating concious mindfulness in Now, what outside stimulus can impact your personal peace/bliss beyond whatever level you are choosing to experience? A man can burn alive in Nirvana with simple mindfulness. If someone feels burdened, out of compassion to the self (who always deserves it) forgive all things past present and potential future arisings. Choose to forgive in advance the most awful things beyond your imagination capacity. This severes your attachment to mind carrying that burden. Recognize everything you have ever seen or experienced will crumble to dust, be consumed by a stars death process, collasped into a super density mass and spray back out of a black hole in beautiful divine spirals of gamma rays that somehow make the energy/mass conversion back to become new stars and planets. Galaxies of galaxys are repeating this process like fire flys flashing at an infinite pace like a blurred even energy gradient. Oneness is a perception of reality. For this realization, severe ones ties to the concept of material attachment, there is only energy. Some of it is on a fleetingly brief loan to you right now to compose ones body. Everyone pays back this debt equally and exactly, no matter how much of their life they gave to clinging to it to suffer in futility. If you embrace these simple realizations, it will become primary nature not to suffer. You can still always choose to mindfully suffer (pointlessly and un-compassionatly to any level you choose, mindfully choose fear-rooted thought). At some point, chooseing to return to illusion of lack-of-mindfulness-state becomes seen as foolish of a thing to do as stapling into your forehead pointlessly, only much more dangerous. With unlimited Love, -Bud

There is your perceptions of this moment of Now. All the rest is delusions of human construction which all are welcome to tangle themselves in however they like.