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I'm sorry that you did not understand my post; of course it makes good sense to me; would you perhaps like a more succinct explanation? I am sure that I can make one ... Which part did you not understand?

No one is immortal, with all due respect, to my mind, you may have misunderstood some very fundamental points regarding the nature of reality; you may feel immortal, that is another thing altogether; this world is very real and we are all at different stages of development ... Do you see how easy it would be to translate your philosophy into auto justification for doing most any thing I wish, including theft and Murder? Some may see this as an inherent floor in your philosophy as we do share this world with others who all have different views. There are of course other things to take into account which are all just as real, food for example, how can the same piece of fruit be both yours and mine, if we both have a family to feed and there is a famine?

Now really, who has their brain stuck in their gut somewhere? Hummmm ... Many of our our chemical neuro transmitters are made here, serotonin particularly, so reflecting upon how serotonin effects the way we think, that it is made in the stomach then: QED must be applicable here.

of history stuff the mind is often a bluffed, future past and now.

Hello there, I was just going to quote the very same line, adding that this can also been seen from a scientific point of view too ... How can you be certain of this Marblehead; it is rather a sweeping statement. The lineage that I am studying teaches that we reside spread across the whole of the body via the nadi, through which prana travels; of particular importance is the soul which is found just off set from the heart. The whole body being an interface for consciousness. From a more recent scientific perspective, all of the following is testable or rather has been tested; The human heart is a proper little dynamo; whilst giving an electrical charge to the blood, the heart it's self; containing a massive cluster of neurons, has an electric field about it that is perceivable up to 2 meters away. The heart and stomach have been found to have one polarity while all other organs the reverses, like little batteries, you could quite reasonably from this argue that we think with our stomachs. Some highly interesting accounts from recipients of heart transplants any something like 1 in 10, experience some very drastic personality changes, not only that but the changes resemble traits of the donor. Please watch this short film if you are interested; it is quite fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDwRnBcrGw

You sound perhaps Agnostic manitou; a fine philosophical addition to the theo; atheo; logical debate ...

You know I smiled when I saw this thread; I have just taken to putting a hint of ginger in my black tea and am very pleased with the taste; gives it an edge which allows me to replace the coffee in the mornings.

Pealing peel will chime, regardless of what it takes, iron sunny day.

Reminds me of the concept of nāga, very important in the ways of sanātana dharma ... There are two types of nāga the good ones protect knowledge ... Amongst other things.

Here they are, building a bigger better gun ...

Brahma Muhūrta is a wonderful time to see the Planets. The only time the interior planets are visible being sunrise and sunset ... I like to make the chart of the day at sunrise; I believe that traditionally one would calibrate their water clock at the first sighting of the tip of the Sun, after having observed the celestial bodies. Jupiter is easily found above a waning crescent moon this morning; quite beautiful.

Hello the1gza To my mind spirituality has a polarity; it would be very spiritually naive to forget this.

Hello zerostao It is a very powerful song, I love to sing it. You can really put the energy into that one; without even trying. The thing is that people will got to crazy extremes to protect their perception of life, and music as a medium touches people at the deepest level.

Hello Manitou nice to meet you, I agree with this totally, people seem to obsess with the words and categorizing of things, an illusion is built from these bricks, though this illusion protects and unites us, it is also of these bricks that we can build a false impression of what God actually is. It is silly of me; I still squirm whilst saying the word "God". I grew up in a fanatical atheist environment. I think that if you listen carefully; you can hear a young child's connection to God in His or Her speech and very nature. I'm sorry, did somebody step on your dharma? To my mind this statement is highly indicative of a limit in your current understanding of God, with all due respect I feel that you may be mistaking the pot for the water.

cookies!- num, num, num with multiplicit post fare, crumbs on the table.

on my dream yoga, in rajayoga kings rise in deep sleep reside

Sanskrit has single words which require a full paragraph to translate into English, where as by way of a slight shift in the perspective as to what reality actually is, then reality is fully explained by one or two words. My view, and this is also the general vedic stance, is that certain things relating to human nature were blatantly obvious in the past but that they have become hidden in time by all of our clutter, things and general Junk knowledge; knowledge that is correct over only a very short periods of time, a hundred years or so or knowledge that is only relevant to the immediate local surroundings. When we rummage through all the chaff we can realize the core shape of things, and this applies to our language in a large way also. Thus in learning Sanskrit, it is the words that are not required which make it so interesting, the structure from the meaning of the root sounds. The system, to my mind, can only have evolved with our expanding consciousness, you could not invent it nor recreate after the fact, as some may have already tried; the vedas claims that the consciousness descended into us from a higher place. That we are now far less conscious than our forefathers. My guru, my śikṣā guru, is teaching me vedāṅga, I don't have a dīkṣā guru; I know little of Babaji who was a dīkṣā guru. My learning is from a paramparā or lineage that descends from Achutānanda Das, who in his time, translated various Sanskrit works into the local dialect for the less learned in Sanskrit to appreciate. Ah yes, when we cry the divine mother hears our cries and acts; that is certain, what this means is no trivial matter at all, vis mātṝkā the Goddess of War, children and emancipation. She is also the script and the language. The energy of which you speak can be fully managed should you wish to learn, that is what mantra is for, generating energy; if you can find the means to plug into the mains, then you will have infinitely more energy to give; these energy thieves of whom you speak, are in every walk of life. Practice starts at sunrise every day if you want to manage your own. I use guitar and song for my mantra, it works wonderfully for me though the sill world in which I live does not facilitate this, I like to think of it as my pushing back on the walls that confine me. Interesting so see how the energy thief reacts when you give light openly and willingly, Jyotish is light jyoti. Your desire for a robot body and eternal life strikes me as being rather rooted in a fear of change. That energy source is found when we realize that "I" that you wish to transfer; is the ego not the soul, that we already have eternal life when we learn to deal with the "I". We are immensely and immediately connected to the both Sun and Moon, so why head towards a linear cold darkness? If we all get these robot body's the earth would simply die ... No more children. I feel an underlying sadness in your desire for mechanical linear life, nature abhors linearity by the way; I would advise that you learn Sanskrit instead of bio mechanics, that would satisfy mātṝkā in a peaceful way.

That time is a biological illusion and that he is me in another universe, so how'd he get into mine? Getting out of forsaken England will save you so don't worry bout that; I would start teaching him Jyotish; as paradoxically, I would now be the Guru that I didn't find then, up until now.

Prophesy, or was perhaps his mantra the cause? I wonder some times to whom John Lennon was referring to as "they", in "Working class hero" ... Enough to raise the snake for many.

Sounds like advaita to me.

Nice post. The deities in Jyotish shastra are used to dissipate and understand the emotions better, to remember the phenotypes, mantra to help channel push the photon for Schrodinger cat; I find that Atheist in general have difficulty letting go, that they are often ego centric and rather controlling. I don't mean to generalize; but there would appear to be a strong correlation, a fitting trend. I have no real problem with Atheists other than their rather obsessive addictions to money and work, and an economy supported singly by economy driven science. The social model is destroying the planet, and I have no time to play my guitar and sing.

Interesting point; I attended a prashna lecture at a conference with my Jyotish Guru recently, in London; sitting next to me was a doctor of quantum mechanics who was working for a chip manufacturer, trying to solve the problem of quantum error in the fabrication of microchips, naturally he had turned to the science of light, the meeting between the spiritual and the material.

of the free -- off-air. Welcome to Guantanamo, Cheap air in a can.

Now that is a very good point; vis the pied piper of Hamlin ... The song remains the same ...