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So, I'm currently reading a book by Philip Bonewits called Real Magic. On page 49 he briefly mentions CPK Assimilation (CPK = Cellular PsychoKinesis), thus; "For those of you who regularly perform faith-healing or curing rituals, there is an interesting phenomenon you should be aware of. It is an overlap between CPK and telepathy in which the disease is absorbed accidentally or deliberately by the healer, who exhibits the same symptoms for a short time, after which the disease vanishes from the patient and healer alike. This.....can be very dangerous to the practitioner. [....]Since if rules are broken, the healer may not be able to get rid of the disease assimilated" Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks for posting this topic! I'm actually planning a trip to England (mainly) and Europe in about a year, with the intent on visiting ancient sites of spiritual significance. Hopefully I can get some ideas from this thread. I've already been to Stonehenge and Avebury, but will visit them again anyway.

I prefer walking barefoot to wearing shoes, but I wear shoes to 'dirty' places like shops and public buildings. I am pretty centred and grounded too. I didn't think about just giving it to a tree. I wouldn't want a tree to feel the pain, though. Thanks for all your help

I have never done any healing before. A few years back, I was sitting with my arm around a very close friend. I knew she had severe back pain, and wondered if I could find it/'feel' it. I found it straight away, and was just about to take it out of her and offer it up to the universe, when she looked at me suddenly and said 'What are you doing!? what are you going do with that? you won't want it!'. I was so startled that I stopped, as I didn't think she would be able to feel what I was doing. Ever since then I have had bad back pain. It is finally easing a little, but only after much physiotherapy. Edit * shortly after that, we lost contact with each other

Does anyone know any methods to help remove a disorder that was obtained in this manner? One that has been lingering for a few years?

""Domo arigato gozaimashita nankaina Sesai" It's Japanese. Domo arigato gozaimashita = thank you very much (past tense) [どうもありがとうございます.] nankaina sesai = I'm not sure. nankaina is possibly a person's name? 難解な sesai = sensai? 先生 am i close with the nankaina sesai, Nungali?

I don't see how that's any different to other forms of religious indoctrination that I experienced as a child. I was given a picture book showing some king standing over hundreds of slaughtered babies, many with slit throats. It was horrible, I think it was a christian bible story book.

Thanks guys, I was being lazy and didn't want to google the bits I'd forgotten.

Hi all, I have a query regarding the foundations of magickal practice. Let me start by briefly describing my experience. I have been cultivating 'magick' (or whatever one wishes to call it) for well over a decade, and have had a reasonable amount of success. Definitely enough for me to have to take it seriously and believe that it is 'real' and not mere coincidence or imagination (imagination in the conventional sense. I am aware that Imagination is something different). I have done a small amount of mediation (VERY small), and a reasonable amount of visualization, and that is where my query lies. Upon reading certain tomes devoted to the cultivation of these kinds of practices, they highlight the importance of mediation and visualization. In comparison to the degree that seems to be expected by these books, my experience seems to be paltry. I am curious as to how much time you have all dedicated to these foundational skills? Upon reading Crowley's Liber ABA, I find This still happens to me, for the most part. As long I don't try too hard, and allow it to emerge as a dream I can visualize more complex scenarios, but when aiming for the simple, such as a yellow circle, I get all kinds of interference. As for mediation, well, I'm a bit embarrassed to discuss my attempts. So, to summarize, how much time have you dedicated to basic skills such as mediation and visualization? Have you noticed a large improvement in your 'magickal' abilities as a result? And any other advice or discussion on this topic is also appreciated. Peace

According to a couple of Jehovah's witnesses that popped in to tell me about Jesus (or something) the other week, in the era of the bible, we all lived to be several hundred years old. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_myths However, from the skeletal fossil record, I believe that we have been gradually getting taller, and walking more upright for some tens of thousands of years. I think we are living longer in this century than we have in the past, but that generalisation may be restricted to anglo-saxon genotypes, as some asiatic peoples have a history of longer longevity, possibly due to diet choices and advanced medicinal practices (relative to anglo-saxons at the time).

We're practically neighbours. I'm in Ningy Ningy country. The little mangrove tree in the ocean in my pic is from just down the road.

Curious as to what state you're in, Nungali. And by state, I mean physical state, of Australia.

Well, I don't know what to call you all. I used the K so as to differentiate from those who feel inclined to yank poor wee bunnies out of hats. I don't exactly refer to myself as that either, but I wanted to imply that I wished to converse with persons who practiced things of a non-material nature which caused changes in the internal or external environment without physical intervention, but that would have made for too long of a title.

When I was 5 I was at the dentists, and was given gas. The dentist was working in my mouth, and I got bored. I got off the table (while he was still working on me), left the room and went down the stairs to the exit, leaving my body behind. I thought nothing of until years later I realized people don't do that kind of thing. When I was a young teen (before the internet was commonly being used in the general public) I 'woke up' inside a dream, and was absolutely amazed at the strange world I was in. I didn't do it again for several years as I had no idea what it was, and that it was even repeatable. The two events were markedly different. Whether this was due to the medical drugs or not I don't know, but I don't think so. I think the first time I was still in this physical plane, and the second time I was in a different realm. I think I may have has a predisposition for this kind of event due to my childhood; As a child I used to close my eyes and visualise myself flying over the ocean and visiting my home country and looking in my friend's windows. I also used to stare at a spot on the wall in my bedroom (when I was sent to my room for being naughty....so, a lot ) until everything went white. I also used to lie there at night and play with the phosphenes... you know when you close your eyes it's not all black? There are thousands of tiny pinpricks of light? Well those are phosphenes, and the eye (or my eyes) can see them all the time, depending on whether or not one focuses on them. I used to make them flow in waves and then change direction...stuff like that.

Thank you. I just purchased the book.

Another of my simple favourites....onigiri! So delicious..... Cook 'asian' rice (short/medium grain). Cool. Form into a flattened ball. Sprinkle with furikake. Wrap in toasted nori. I like wrapping mine completely in seaweed;

Perhaps dominoes aren't the way to go for magickal foundations after all........

Are you a vegetarian? For breakfast I like avocado on toast. If you eat animal by-products, adding an egg keeps you feeling full for a long time. For lunch; a salad wrap, or; salad sandwich, or; tin of tuna-crackers-cherry tomatoes, or; an avocado-boiled egg-rice, or; sauteed chicken breast-soy sauce-rice A simple evening meal can consist of some steamed vegetables (whatever are your favourites - zuchini, carrots, pumpkin, beans, greens, etc), some sushi rice (or other short/medium grain rice), and a bowl of miso soup. [Miso soup can be as simple as putting miso paste into hot water, without boiling it, or a tastier version is made by following the recipe below]. This meal can be eaten every night, using different vegetables and different soups for variety. If you eat fish, a piece of fish is a nice addition. Mushrooms are very tasty when sauteed with a little tahini, and make a good addition also. Miso soup: Bring water to boil in pan (enough for a bowl or 2 of soup) Place a few 2inch squares of kombu (seaweed) and a tablespoon of bonito in boiling water, boil for 5 or 10 mins Remove seaweed, bonito, and discard them (leaving behind your stock water Into stock place chopped spring onion, cook for 1 minute, turn off stove Into stock place miso paste and baby spinach leaves (do not boil once miso paste has been added) Enjoy p.s. the spinach leaves and spring onion are optional. If you are vegetarian, omit the bonito. If you tell me what kind of flavours you like, I can give you more ideas

How long do you meditate each day, BKA? How long does it take before you have (mainly) no-thoughts?

I'm assuming that meditating, or achieving the meditative state regularly, enhances ones overall magick. I think that's what BKA means, and ZDD implied also. Whilst I've achieved the meditative state (when painting or walking through the forest), a strange place where focus transforms ones experience and all there is is NOW, I have been unsuccessful at achieving a state where I think no-thoughts, and that is what I would love to know, if that is a valid pursuit, and if it will assist my path.......

(Please excuse my ignorance) I thought ananda was a disciple of the buddha? Is it also a state of being?

Thank you for you interest. I patiently await any further information you may impart regarding the above-mentioned methods (even just some keywords to google if you're continually pressed for time). Thank you all for responding!! I have a lot of food for thought now

Thank you, Gemstone, I'll be sure to have a look. I'm kind of on my own path. I don't like rituals, or external tools. I communicate with my 'higher self'/'HGA'/'spirit guide' (I think people have different names for these entities/experiences) and move forward at whatever pace is appropriate for me at the time. I have done a lot of work in nature, and with manifestation, divination, telepathy etc If I 'daydream'-visualize its fine. But if I want to hold a simple shape in my mind, it goes crazy p.s. I'm an artist, so my favourite thing to do when I was a child was 'lose' myself in my drawing, that felt like meditation. I will read through the Win Wenger posts when I have more time, hopefully later today. If learning to meditate properly will have a big impact on my life and my path, I am determined to do so. I am curious as to all your experiences with this......

@BaguaKicksAss Thank you for your advice, I am determined to meditate for a minimum of 15 per day. Like I said, I have done my share of visualisation type meditations. However, regarding the non-thought meditation, I have always put it off, as I found it boring, I'm ashamed to say. I have found recently that if I relax completely first it is less boring, even enjoyable, but I tend to relax too much and float on the edge of sleep, which isn't good for my focus. @Zhongyongdaoist Thank you also for your advice. I am here to learn from those more experienced than me (and also those who are not ). This is actually the first book of Crowley's that I have begun reading (Liber ABA), and I quoted it because I have not yet come across anyone who describes attempting to visualize, like he does. Usually they just say it is hard, and that most people cannot picture things at first etc. I have spent many years in various forests, practicing, but have not read much literature yet. I was drawn to this site because I have decided to spend the next few years familiarizing myself with a range of literature, and the discussions between some of the members of this forum (you two included) proved very interesting and appear to arise from a background wealth of knowledge on a range of literature. Nice to meet you Peace

Yeah, I went through a stage where I didn't do any for quite a while because there was nothing I really wanted. Now I mainly want to explore the astral realm, and that kind of thing. I've done a bit of lucid dreaming, but it seems different somehow to the astral realm. I know there's a bit of debate regarding whether they're the same thing or not, but I spontaneously left my body at about 5 and that felt different to any lucid dreaming I've done so far. Oh yes, I try very hard to be careful what I wish for. I'd rather not make those mistakes again. Although I have learnt and grown from them (I hope!).