glovemtb

The passing of Master Nan: Something was going, on various signs last week. I kept Master Nan's Wiki page open to get around to re-reading since the middle of last week, (had not seen that in years.) Then Thursday night I was meditating on the mountain under a full moon lit, clear sky and it got cloudy in about 5 minutes and a cloud appeared behind me and started completely silent strobe lightning, bathing me in...well strobe light. "Tao and Longevity" was a great influence on my Qigong/Neidan practice over the years...while Dr. Luk's translation of Master Zhao/Chao Pi Chen's Taoist Yoga was the bible; Tao & Longevity put much in terms i could understand and was treasured reading and influence. I read several times over the last 20 years or so. Rest in peace Master Nan.

Since sign-ups are currently disabled at that site I would like to see it posted hear.

Respectively I claim no mastery of anything really and you really can't tell someone that has not experienced it but, imho, sounds like you have already drawn your opinions, beliefs and what you will and will not try; are afraid you may be missing something and are asking; but also offering rationalizations for not searching into "celibacy" and this particular method of deeper spiritual practice now. Believe it or not sexual restraint is only a relatively small sacrifice and starting point.......in any particular incarnation. (It is not easy, like a child having a toy taken away.) I do not criticise any choice one way or the other. But, will try most practices, tantric, kundalini, very non-ritualistic chi gung, etc. Lets me mention, if one is able to shall we say,...think about other things...."purify" jing and transform and experience the success relative to the sacrifice for only a couple of months. You will be a step ahead in the discussion. At a young age I was never successful for any length of time and thus never really understood and wish I knew with--->that youthful vitality then, what I now know (why would it matter if e v e n t u a l l y you will succeed ? .... another rationalization....try some other approaches with and empty cup, since you have to empty your mind anyway !!!!! Note: I also understand the dangers of blind religious faith eastern or western after some years of Jungian theory and psychological practice. Of course, a good teacher helps. Am I the master of my domain now ? much more than I was...according to my wife. Hey, at least you are looking which is more than 99.9 dogmatic religious folks will do. Sorry this is a bit hackneyed , speaking eloquence does not necessarily mean much in my opinion, esp since I'm not good at it . >>>>>>>>>For me it is out of the question to forsake sex and orgasms for any spiritual goal or for long term health regardless of what benefits doing so might give me.>>>>>> How bout for 1 million dollars ?????? So materially then regardless is not quite as regardless....

Hi, would like to post. Hopefully I would have something to contribute. Chi gung practitioner for over 20 years, but no cave dwelling... Thanks glovemtb