vonkrankenhaus

Please do not anyone just stare at the Sun. The way to work with Sun Training and Darkness Training isn't about that, and is more complex than that. Pineal gland calcification in human beings certainly does exist, and this is not just in over-fluoridated mice. Other calcifications are also in the way of energy flow. So hardness and calcifications must be dissolved and dicharged. Also, part of the thing is getting conscious control of organs, glands, hormone actions - including those in the head. This is gaining control of image-making hormonal responses, getting them to shify frequency range. One very introductory Sun training I can suggest is to sit in Sun from sunrise to sunset in one spot. Primarily focus on one area direct in front of you. Try for one whole summer to start. The thing is to be in the total Sun movement from appear to disappear. This happens normally to young children always playing outside in Sun every day - we become entrained and gain organ function memory of the entire shape and rotation of Earth, orienting our thinking and actions. This part of training is ultraviolet radiation. But in relation to Earth. Is more about what is very near. Dark Training is creating, amplifying the will for this UV range and above, eventually beyond visible light, by having it absent and making use of homeostasis functions of the human body to "find" it. Recieving cosmic rays beyond solar system - especially at night - we are percieving non-human information. We use hormone responses in our head, after training, to recieve and translate these vibrations as imageries and thoughts. This can lead to realization most see only at or near death. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "would you agree there's a level of faith involved? I don't mean belief in something or other. I mean profound faith in the way things are going to turn out, and that they're going to turn out good. It's hard for me to articulate and I'd appreciate your reaction to what I wrote" ----- I think it is the faith that comes in seeing reality, something like our faith that it is sunny when we walk outside in the morning and just see it. But, the response to this is more like what I was writing about. That is going more towards issues of "Maturity" and "Virtue". Just know that these masters are responding to something very like same thing that other masters are seeing and then devoting their lives to service to all beings, and so forth. Both are "humble", but in very different ways. Individual human being knows what way of response is best for them, for their dream. That is also Faith - the faith in our dream, our image, which we are recieving and manifesting, and which is appearing and disappearing eternally to become ever the same. So those masters, maybe they have eyebags, maybe go really fat, chasing girlies - they are fun, but not Virtuous maybe. Maybe not so mature for what they ended up seeing. Also - seeing Universe and percieving distant image doesn't itself make a person know exactly good way to drive a car, for example, or play video games and cure cancer, etc. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "The pineal gland is naturally "decalcified" if you intake more light into your being and get enough times of rest. So that repairs are less needed by the system and the energy can be used to awaken finer senses." ---- I understand this idea - but would we say the same things about a kidney stone? Maybe, but maybe not. The pineal is near the center of the brain, an area that doesn't flex and move like the muscled areas of our body. So calcification (contracted, hardness) in the central (contracted) part of the head - this is a difficult calcification. Other hardnesses in other organs are also having the effect of blocking impulses and hormonal responses - kidneys, liver/gallbladder, and so forth. But the pineal becomes important in the context of "spiritual vision" or "inner" vision, mainly because it has to do with producing imagery from vibration. What we trying to do in cultivation is extend our image-making receptions to reach non-visible vibrations starting at ultraviolet light and going beyond. There is much to this, but I try to write some background to explain it in another thread and someone writes that I am spamming and off-topic so I stop. That's fine too. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "The question then is why do masters die if they are enlightened?" ----- In terms of advanced cultivation, this question is like asking why the placenta falls off and dries up as a baby is born. Some masters, upon realizing what "immortality" really is, will do all kinds of things that do not produce "good" results in the eyes of other people. They don't really care at that point. And they get sick and die too, but they don't really care about it. This human body is the placenta that is developing our spirit body from the half-light/half-dark air world into the all-light spirit world. They see this, initially, and lose some care for worldly concerns that this "placenta" encounters. Smarter to realize the preciousness of all this and go the other way - into caring very much, and giving away this supposedly "unimportant" existence into the service of all others. Not "morally" or "ethically" this is better, but functionally this is better. So those master who age, get sick, and die - they are free, and they can do that, and they have fun, but it is not really advanced person doing this. Just more advanced than the average person today. No matter - we are all going the same place, all doing the same thing. I applaud those dead and still living masters, and everyone else. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Other researchers of the experience described 'entities' or 'beings' in humanoid as well as animal form, with descriptions of "little people" being common (non-human gnomes, elves, imps etc.)." ----- I am very familiar with this. These specific "machine elves" can be seen by people who take either synthetic chemicals, or synthetically isolated compounds. They are never seen by people using completely natural whole plant materials. The phenomena is similar to the way tobacco shamans will see insect spirits which love tobacco. What this is - it is a phenomena related to the way anyone who is strict vegetarian and then eats animal or fish flesh will likely have some sort of dream related to the energy retained in the flesh of that animal. In the tobacco example, they are smoking insect eggs - so they dreaming insects, larvae, eggs, that want more tobacco. The tobacco reduces the shaman's life energy by poisoning him. His functions go inside and periphery becomes numb. In this state, subtle energies and thoughts are very amplified. Just a core of consciousness and function is going on during poisoning or "tripping". In the case of synthetic or isolated DMT, this is the mechanical process of producing the chemicals. The mechanical process seems cold and calculating to a human intelligence, and this is what these people are describing. These may be interesting, fun, etc, but they are not really advanced phenomena. Real goal of training goes much past this kind of thing and differentiates intuition into much finer experiences and sensitivities. The psychology that has been applied to this simple stuff is astounding. If these are taken to be showing the future, then I would say be careful what future one believes in, and be careful what one takes in during life. -VonKrankenhaus

Might just be some stiffness. Various stiff and hard areas can block chi flow temporarily, like water building up behind a clog in a pipe, and then release - like a "cramp" in slow motion. If that, it's easy to learn relaxation and change diet a little to help - or could be sign of some organ issue or health condition that may need attention, etc. Common thing in early qigong practice. Or -- it could be from consuming plants grown in artificial light, using "light movers" that move powerful lights around over a bunch of plants. The lights are on straight or circular track. The plants grow up adjusting to this oddness, and eating them releases the stored and habitual (to the plant) energy response patterns. Our mind decodes this energy and we express it. Sensitive people can feel this energy from eating plants grown this way as feelings in their head and balance. -VonKrankenhaus

What is it that travels in "astral" travel? Is it the "Spirit Body"? Could not be what is called "Energy Body" - made of heat, and such, that never leave Earth atmosphere. What is the thing that is travelling, and how does it travel? Where does it go? I wonder what people think. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Start you own thread if you wish to talk about yourself or other matters." ----- Okay. I had no idea. I thought spirulina, as mentioned by someone else, and dark training, also mentioned by someone else, were part of this topic. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Just to clarify.....your trainings were in darkness, or you are talking about just seclusion in a forest ?" ----- I have done darkness trainings. Also have done training living in forest outside. I have been training for some years, with modern unreal living put like more of a sideline, an extra little thing. I do recognize that I did something "unusual" but every day makes sense to me perfectly, and I do not feel like any trade has been made or that I am odd or anything like that. Really, it's the opposite. I'm trying to write about it in this forum. Very interesting to see the subjects people are writing about online. ----- "The path towards this is slow degradation of humans, and we are living in early stages of it, i think." ----- Not early. -VonKrankenhaus

Ego - this is just a basic function. If we, a group, are standing somewhere, and one of us feels cold, he does not have to wait until we all reach for a blanket. He can do this "individually". So the trick was to create so many individual needs that the person is overwhelmed in ego responses and at odds with any group. It is a trick which leverage ordinary human nature. Launching everyone into much ego work. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "sun gazing exercises." ----- Yes. This is a preliminary and essential part of darkness training. I did this type of practice for over 1 year, every day seeing the sun go from up to down in form of meditation, before my first 3 years training. Since that time I return to this periodically. It is daytime practice, to know the Sun, and night practice is focussed more towards the periphery and beyond solar system. Different vibrations and different source. All are vibrations making and unmaking life and human beings. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Have you practiced in darkness for extended periods of time ? These characterestics supposedly arise from a deep meditation practice of a monk, according to buddhist teachings. Darkness helps in guiding the mind inwards." ----- I have studied darkness training since the mid-70s, and have done two extended trainings of 3 years and 13+ years. But this is not part of the concerns of people today. Just going out of all this society for a few years, seeing only animals and plants and maybe one or two or a few people doing the same thing, and then going back - would be monumental for most people - even if they did no training at all and just found out how to live like that. What is going on now is not really human life, but "something else". Darkness training has several effects. One is to develop sensitivity to vibrations just at and beyond visible light, including vibration from deep space. The pineal gland is involved with translating energy into mental imagery and thought in human terms. This is a form of "psychic" knowing. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Anyways, my main point is this: What's the benefit in astral travelling? Do you progress spiritually from it? Or is it something you should just do because it's fun?" ----- Astral travel is what you are doing when you graduate from human life into the spirit world. This human body is the placenta for our consciousness (spirit body). So doing now is like living in contact with the next realm while still alive. It is contact and interaction of a wider existence in a wider realm that is our destiny. -VonKrankenhaus

First is to stop fluoride exposure, and to stop processes that put free calcium into circulation and then deposit it. Bathing in fluoridated water is exposure. There is much about fluoride on internet. To do really, you must temporarily go into an "unhealthy" state of decalcification something close to rickets - and this requires years of diet and life preparation, plus some physical training, to go into productively. There are many other calcifications in people that affect cultivation, and not just in the pineal. Lesions (dead spots) in the brain from cutting the umbillical cord at birth will calcify. People with various hormone and mineral imbalances, as well as people who eat a lot of sugar and solvents (like phosphoric and ascorbic acid, etc) will often have calcifications in less-active areas of the body. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "How do you suggest exposing oneself to infrared?" ----- Best way is natural fire light or candle light. Fluorescent light is no good during darkness training, and most electric light is not so good. Red & amber incandescent bulbs are something we experimented with for years (various kinds), but best is candle or fire if light is needed. -VonKrankenhaus

During the daytime, we face the Sun. During the nighttime we face out of the solar system towards "outer space". The peak energetic influence is not at 12pm or 12am, but more like 2pm and 2am. Melatonin, linked to the pineal gland and DMT production, is certainly related to various human and environment cycles - and here I give one secret - to know a woman's ovulation, look to the dark melatonin pigment just around the anus. If this is jet black, then ovulation is happening. This skin changes constantly in time with ovulation cycle, and at one point even turns pale. There are many more such "indicators" on human beings and animals. The sensitivity to blue (ultraviolet) light that comes with darkness training is generated from (over)-exposure to infra-red light, and is a step towards increasing sensitivity to vibrations beyond visible light. The purpose of DMT in this training is to train for making internal mental imagery from these non-visible vibrations so to translate them into human understanding. This gives us an advanced awareness of human growth from the Earth life to the spirit realm and growing from the physical body to the spirit body. -VonKrankenhaus

First I give some background, the trajectory of my training experience regarding qi cultivation and darkness training and living: I studied gongfu and qigong starting in early 70s in a traditional southern shaolin-derived family style. This included some blindfolded qigong/dream/thinking methods done at night, and some advanced qigong projection techniques. I first learned what dark training was in around 1975. I practiced for around 15-20 years, including learning from additional teachers, before doing extended (longer than a few days at a time) darkness training the first time. It was nearly 3 years. This improved my psychic ability such that I became an in-demand professional psychic for some time. One of my teachers was able to impart several essential methods to me that I now understand to be missing from most other practices and systems, and which I have spent about 35 years subsequently experimenting and perfecting. These methods deal with intake/expression of the environment and ways of living and dying. Around 2002 I began another run of darkness training using full training methods, and this has been going, with minor breaks, since then. Part of this training, about a year, was done living in a forest outdoors, studying and training with weather, wild plants, and many wild animals. This training has gone for the majority of my life, and has changed me very much from what I might've been and was before starting. I clearly saw this as my trajectory since early childhood, and sought out the specific teachers to help me assemble it. Looking back now, I am speechless and amazed at what has happened. The skills I have developed are the basis of my entire life, and are responsible in every thing I have done. Very recently I began borrowing a computer to look online and communicate. I saw that some people like Mantak Chia are teaching some darkness training ideas that I never saw published before, and some of this matches my training and experience (and some does not, and seems like he is guessing). This made me interested to see if other qigong people today have experienced good training and skills - so I sign up here and other places. Currently, I have organized my training into a family system which I am guiding 13 of my family in closed training. Going further, I can explain more detail about my experience and study about the pineal gland and decalcification, and what drakness training actually accomplishes and how. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "I would like to know more of this than the broad outline you give here. Could you please give some more details of what in your opinion would be good for decalcifying, and which influences promote the calcifying?" ----- Yes. I will post as much about it as anyone wants me to - but I must go right now, and be back to this thread later today to post more about this. Just pineal calcification, or darkness training in relation to the pineal gland? -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "you claimed that spirulina causes cancer." ----- Not really, and not literally. I wrote "Eating a lot of this could influence our cells back to this kind of intermediary state, and may result in strange cell growth consistent with cancer." And this is my opinion based on my own experience and study. No doubt that spirulina may do something to some cancers that would be seen as beneficial, but not all cancers, and not cancer in general, and any benefit will need to be seen as part of a longer trajectory of using it - and what I am saying is that spirulina will not likely be used as-is to successfully treat most cancer, that spirulina as-is will not cure cancer overall, and that eating it habitually as a food could result in some strange effects that would become more obvious in the long term. That is just my opinion, my own perspective. Not thinking anyone would get scared by it. If I am incorrect, then we will see much more evidence that I am soon - especially if it is being studied now very actively. The studies you point to are very interesting, but do not really change what I have seen myself. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "You could use vibrational remedies (flower essences and others) besides meditation practices to restore the pineal gland faster." ----- Yes. Especially including food. Herbs alone, with no real change in how we take in the overall environment as food, are like a "one step forward, two steps back" proposition, in that the herbs are correcting what is being "uncorrected" by a person's diet. In terms of fluoride, there are plants that help eliminate this. Even common herbs like cilantro do have this action. But if intake is not stopped in drinking, cooking, bathing, medicines, etc, then we can see that the effectiveness of such plant remedies would be less effective than a total approach which removes as much as possible the sources of hardening and calcification. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "What proof can you offer regarding calcification of the pineal gland. Proof not hearsay." ----- There is much in writing about the pineal gland. Rick Strassman might be a good source of some ideas. There is also a lot of medical documentation and x-rays/scans of pineal glands in various states of disrepair that you could find online. My own writing derives from around 40 years of study and practice, including two runs of extensive darkness training - one lasting 3 years some years ago, and another over 13 years more recently. The cultivation I have done has changed me, in many ways. That "proves" nothing, but it is really something. I have nothing to "prove" here, but I am writing directly about my experiences on topics in which I have experience. Me standing here is what I am referring to, not to points in an argument. I have been out of society for several years, including time in a forest living, and my posting here is in hope of raising back my communication ability to at some point be able to show others what I have learned. So I am still experimenting with ways of wording, and I have some help on that, my use of language in writing. Sometimes I can get it very good, very "professional", but if anything I write seems not clear, just ask questions about it and I will add or refine more ways to express. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "If you obtain enlightenment that means the pineal gland is opened up - the pineal gland is the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality (Pre-birth qi). So with an opened pineal gland then you can access the Emptiness that has unified energy of spirit-vitality or Prenatal shen-qi energy and with that access you can then restore the energy. The book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality teaches how to do this - basically if you start from the Emptiness as a philosophy then you can rebuild that connection of Prenatal Spirit (Yuan Shen) as the front channel of the small universe descending from the CAvity of Spirit (the heart) with the Prenatal Vitality (Yuan Qi) as the back channel of the small universe." ----- That won't un-calcify the pineal gland. Old texts were not written for modern people who have been drinking and bathing in fluoridated water, consuming cadmium-laced drinks and chocolates, eating pure sodium chloride, or staying indoors from the sun at computers and developing vitamin D deficiencies. Doing this for real, measurable with x-rays, will require many years of dietary and "lifestyle" changes, and then up to 7+ years of darkness training. I don't know if anyone is teaching this, but this is more like what it would take to recover real pineal gland form and functionality. Any form of just meditation, with no changes to the calcification that modern living is causing, would not result in much "opening up" of the pineal gland. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Dude if you're going to fear-monger give some evidence. When I do the work for you by looking up evidence what do I find? the opposite of your claim." ----- I was not "fear-mongering" whatsoever. Yes, you found some links showing some studies have been done that suggest spirulina, or some component in it, may have some "anti-cancer" properties. What you need to see are people who have tried to treat cancer with it. And you also need to see people who have been eating a lot of it for many years. As a disclaimer, I have researched cancer for over 30 years and have extensive experience with "alternative" cancer treatments. I also worked at one time for the largest pharmaceutical company in the world explaining chemogenomics and drug targetting to new graduates/job recruits in that industry. I have also spent 35+ years studying plant medicine. My opinion is that spirulina is not going to be a miracle cure for very much, and I see that continual use of it as a food or as a medicine may cause some problems. I do not care in what I wrote that anyone has isolated "useful compounds" from it, because at that point it wouldn't be "spirulina" anyway. ----- "Also your use of the term "primitive" in a negative moral sense belies a misunderstanding of evolution and indicates some sort of possible racist viewpoint or at the minimum a view of linear time progress as evolution." ----- Actually, there really are comparatively "primitive" forms of life, and also more recent ones. Ferns are an example of primitive and very old form, and grasses are an example of a more recent form of plant life. Primative - primal, primary, etc. Older. Earlier. Is this the racism you detected? Or my "pidgin" english? In terms of linear time evolution, without the idea of linear time we are no longer talking about evolution in the common sense of the idea. My intent was not to define or debate evolution as an idea, but to point out that spirulina is a very old form of life. Linear time is important to this if we consider that at one point in linear time the Earth had a completely different atmosphere, and at one point, not even really oxygen-based, and at other points, almost totally humid with vapor. Things growing then, appearing at various times, were very different from now - which may be important to know when talking about various life forms that have emerged on Earth and our relationship to them today. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "only the magnesium is just changed with iron internally - otherwise chlorophyll has the same exact structure as red blood." ----- Plant and animal life are complimentary opposites, and the vegetal world is giving birth to the animal. This is what is demonstrated by the differences in the structure of chlorophyll and hemoglobin. Blue-green algae is representative of a very primitive part of animal evolution, something like an intermediary between primitive plant life and primative animal life. Eating a lot of this could influence our cells back to this kind of intermediary state, and may result in strange cell growth consistent with cancer. The animals which have in the past subsisted on very primative plant life, such as is represented by some algae and plants like asparagus, artichokes, etc - these animals were "dinosaurs", not human beings, and not even apes. ----- "Milarepa when he wasn't in samadhi would eat stinging nettles as his main food source - so much that his skin turned green. Strong pigment foods will do that - like carrots (orange skin) or garlic (sulfur yellow). So the pigments on the skin then again act as photoreceptors to change spirit light energy to qi energy internally." ----- There is a long tradition of this sort, wherein shamans and other cultivators have eaten food that is not typically human food. Sennin in the mountains eating pine needles, etc. For modern people, these techniques are not effective. They will first need to change entirely their living and diet just to prepare, and that will take many years - just to get to the point where this would be applicable at all to begin with. ----- "Krishna has blue skin and I think this maybe because serotonin is increased by blue light - science uses blue lights to naturally increase serotonin in people." ----- This higher frequency, ultraviolet, is representing orientation. This is approached in darkness training via the other end of the spectrum - infrared. By continual exposure in the infrared end of the spectrum, a kind of sensitization occurs to ultraviolet and beyond - higher frequency light. Coming out of 7+ years of dark training, you actually see almost everything as blue when you return to the full normal spectrum. After 14+ years, this becomes a stable, premanent condition that is under conscious control. In other words, you have trained to see this part of the spectrum, and you do. In the dark training, after this shift occurs, you start seeing energy as if it were steam/light, like steam from a water vaporizer, coming from and going into objects, people, places, etc. It may be that the visual spectrum training sensitizes you to this. Later, out of the dark training, this energy is even moreso visible than it was in the training. Preparation for this training is too involved for almost everyone today. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the aims and objectives of modern society, and virtually no persons in developed countries are in the condition to begin it with any productive trajectory. But for those willing and able to completely change their life orientation as just one early prerequisite, this training is still possible. -VonKrankenhaus

Re: ----- "Is Pre-Heaven Qi lost forever?" ----- Had you found it, and then lost it? ----- "Is it possible to replenish it?" ----- Has it ever been exhausted? -VonKrankenhaus