blue eyed snake

Thanks Brian, for posting this, nice publication. Even though the finer points go over my head, the design looks well to me and the general outcome is clear enough. That brings me to a question, I would like a pinned thread titled ' research' I remember there were posts with a link to chinese studies which made meridians visible, but of course that has sunk to the depths of the forum by now. Isn't this forum a good place to make a collection of papers like this, to be easily found when you want them? I do not need scientific proof anymore ( but once I did and have been looking, but after a PC crash the results were lost to me). But find I do enjoy reading it. Also, I remember a family member telling me energywork was all BS, at the time I just told her to each his own, but it would be nice to be easily able to send some papers with clear information on the subject. I remember a design whereby they made healers put their hands in dark boxes ( very dark ) Measure was the amount/count of photons in the box. When these healers did ' whatever you do when you heal a patient' the count went up to I think 10 to the power 3 ( could be 10 to 5, don't remember). I was baffled and for me it was sort of the answer to ' what is this guy doing??? Some years ago, when I was a newbie to this stuff. well, light holds information, that should be no news in this age of fiber optic cables

46. Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted. But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John." if you don't mind, I do get that, but still Jetsun said that which wasn't answered yet I've been thinking about that, Jesus was speaking for his folk, so for Jews, I suppose we need to get that Jesus was not talking about strange folk from far away. But even then, he seems to say that people before his coming, ( in his tribe) were not able to reach that state of childhood. The god of the old testament seems to be a harsh god, an avenging god. Where Jesus preaches forgiveness and compassion, that, imho, being a necessary condition for becoming child again. So in that way I can sort of understand it. But still, he seems to say that he uniquely makes available the way to nondualism, and I still don't like that

nice, I do not know anything about Christianity, whether modern or ancient.. so I learn

well, this adds nothing to the thread, just what pops up with me in my own words we're all born of woman. Some of us then let the small self die and so become 'born again'.( And now I see that is another way to understand the 'become a child again' never thought of that before.) On the other hand, it does seem to implicate that John, who was a spiritual great man, the greates since adam. So the greatest.. was not able to get to this state. So that Jesus is saying something like: from now on this path will be available to mankind. But i sort of don't like that idea....

thanks Nungali and Kongmin, this a most interesting thread

seems you did not get what i wrote. twice I 'm perfectly happy with the teacher that came onto my path when the time was ripe. wish you all the best BES

I've no idea but read this with interest. Thanks Jonesboy, for reviving this thread. as a bystander, maybe it is how we define father/son/holy spirit that makes this saying hard to grasp. Jetsun seems to have a different understanding of the holy spirit then Apech and Jeff. I'm not raised in Christianity but still have an interest in it. I've a hard time defining these terms, I can't really. But the holy spirit for me is this. Being light energy from heavens, therefore a form of energy ( sorry if I offend someone). this light teaches us forgiveness, to be that light or at least try to be like it As we can see, It's hard to bear up to this light. I 've read a dutch guy with a website on the topic , he says something like...err... ( reading in dutch, long piece, how to translate that in short easy words etc..) that when you blaspheme against the holy spirit, that it means that your heart feels that you should do/not do something. But still, even though your heart told you the right way to behave you do not behave according to what your heart says, that will not be forgiven. hmm, rereading what apech and jeff said, that seems to be in the same vein.

point is.. our teacher once told us that of old, a teacher would, in his latter years, write down the stuff he was teaching. This stuff went into a chest. To be given to his senior student at the time of the teachers final departing. But only when that student was worthy, when no worthy student was available the chest with writings was burned ( i think), anyway destroyed . This to ensure that teachings would not become watered down, altered in unfavourable ways etc. To me that means, if our teachers most senior student, would today start his own dojo, his teachings would not be valid. Now I have a great respect and love for this guy. But, to me, even when he would teach exactly as were taught. His teachings would not be valid because he is not yet ready to be teaching that stuff. As a beginner I suppose that that has to do with things like mindset, character- balance and , lets call it energetic aspects. I suppose that is the meaning and the worth of lineage.

especially a scene where a young guy had to walk over a small plank over a basin filled by some kind of acid, on the bottom skeletons were seen ( i must have been 9 or 10 I think, this was very exciting to me, identifying with this young guy I seemed to have walked that plank myself) of course the young guy stumbles and falls down, of course, the lesson was that fear is the biggest pitfall. That lesson I took along and it has served me well. concerning Mopai, I do not have doubts concerning the abilities of John Chang or the validity of the Indonesian school. But I doubt very much whether western Mopai is valid. I remember a session in the dojo were my teacher was teasing me about buying a blue dress and be a teacher myself. At the same time he is very clear that teaching before you are ripe to do that is a bad idea. His teasing thus being a warning, do not get ideas that'll boost your ego. I know senior students of his ( not me, 'm just a beginner) whom I respect a great deal and who do have a decennialong intensive training, they do not teach but assist. They could easily set themselves up as teachers, there abilities and power is large enough for that. But they won't.They know there responsibility to themselves and to people who should not be led astray. much love to all of you BES

I would like to see the kungfu series of the seventies again, now that you mention it I remember, I enjoyed it soo much

Made thunder to roar lovely warm sun to shine Life can be real fine

hm, time to reread it

and further

seek freedom and become captive of your desires, seek discipline and find your liberty forgotten the source

yay!! that I've watched endlessly with my sonny, clear message

well, i have had sessions after which I experienced sort of flowing pain, especially in my arm. I had a frozen shoulder and it feels as if the pain is flowing right out of it. shoulder is much better now, but still more stiff then the other one, there's still work to be done there It may be depend of what/ how much you have locked in your body and for how many years. Trauma for instance is not gonna leave your body unnoticed, that gave me a lot of physical pain, glad i've done it, that I'm through with that part of this life.

tomatos

blockages

soul

ah, but we are all different, your hardest part may be different then mine. And also the way we go along with our development. You've got a teacher who, probably rightly so, urges you to go on. Mine told me to take it easy ( and I should have taken it even easier..) maybe path is the same but we have each our own pitfalls, like :where I fall you only stumble and vice versa

the strange thing is, i stopped drinking in a week, was no problem at all. ( and I did like a glass or two..three...fo... ) sugar easy too, a week ( not the same week though) dairy and gluten was hard...3 weeks... smoking I had stopped, for about a year, with help of nicotin tablets which i used for about half a year, in ever lower dosages. and then I started a supplement that was advised to me by a therapist...and o men, i just needed that smoke so bad... she didn't get it at all, neither did I. Shortly afterwards I went to another therapist who did get it and has been a great help for me ever since. that's about a year ago now. But it's good to write it here, make it public so to say. and thanks @cold , that's a remark that gives me a boost. Searching for the willpower right now.

dance baby, dance!

starfields

yeah, the spiritual ego, the "look how holy I am" is well known. but I gather that Earl is talking about something else. A sort of...err, a part of our egoness that were not aware of, but that's still there, and we only meet it when others, teachers, ( in a broad sense) confront us with it. When confronted one can learn to recognize those parts of our feeling of 'I'. It's a sort of undercurrent, anyway, that's how it feels for me. Last I read the tales of power from Castaneda, the last part of that book deals with the Tonal and the Nagual. I found that very interesting. It sort of describes this process, called the shrinking of the Tonal. For me it was worthwhile reading, I think because it is described in another way than usual, thereby forcing me out of accustomed ways of thinking