blue eyed snake

seems you're teacher is like mine, so I've nothing to add here.

Must have been the woman ( kindness) that came first, you cannot raise a baby without that

Hmm, sort of strange, I said: then you respond with this Now, you come over to me as a guy that wants to use clear and exact language, words that really fit the concepts underlying them. So it surprises me to read that you call your experience awakening for a lack of knowing what to call it. I mean, as we're talking of the same subset of experiences, I remember I called it: it feels as if I am one with the all the world that I happen to be in, the plants, trees, sky, and clouds. Later even the feeling of an ' I ' sometimes faded. As you can see later I started to name the experience as, awareness of oneness or emptiness. The word awakening never entered my skull regarding these experiences. Could you explain how you came to use the word awakening for these experiences? never tried to make more words of it ( in fact, in that period of my life I seem to have stopped being so wordy ), but yes, this some sort of describes it, that's good as it confirms that we're talking about the same thing. To me it never felt as being a wizard, neither like a witch,but it did feel like magic eh, that's a sort of null statement, but I get what you mean

I agree, the persons described by Karl were not displaying humbleness / humility

thanks, but I did write it because i wanted you to read it. i do not want it on the internet for the rest of my life, a bit too private for that

??? well, even though I suppose that twothousand years of cultural baggage have messed up his message, I think he was one of the guys who thought that being humble is a worthy/needed state of being. Something about washing feet if I remember it well.

in essence I described my first experiences with what' s called emptiness, the awareness of " me' being absent. It was indeed a bit overwhelming. Do I understand you rightly that you've had the same experiences and regard that as being awakened? and I mentioned some breakthroughs in my work with disturbed youngsters, these breakthroughs happened roughly at the same time and I saw there a sort of coincidence.

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nobody, i've observed it

yep, beautiful, a feature that gives us a nice symbol too

Hi Junko, why do you disagree with that?

and our feelings seems to be about some balance ( or harmony )

seem to remember that one of the characteristics of pure enlightened knowledge is being humble, so, it appears to me there is a little hurdle yet to take

appear to be animals.... hm, well, can't speak for the others, but eh, ever heard of symobology, or fun , to be very clear, i do not ' think' or ' feel' that I am a snake ( but I'm very fond of them, they are amazing creatures) Mine has several symbolic meanings but the one that's most on top is this one: I'm a slithering serpent, i can lay in the sun for hours, warm and contented, and when you least expect it, I attack and bite, be warned

Manitou tries to steer this thread back on topic I think like your post, like to see that you like Rumi. You might see it as: when every oyster shows its pearl, that'll be the end of hatred, war, pain, fathers hitting their kids, mums yelling etc. ad infintum. That's the yearning of the totality, that were really be one once again. ( not to personalize the oneness btw, but my command of the english language is smaller than I would like)

here too, several times this week , that'l teach us patience

Sitting at my morning tea in sun, I heard that otherworldly singsongsound that flying swans can make. then two swans flew right over my backyard, pretty low, about 7 meters, so beautiful! like this one

In another thread i said that you are still gorgeous, but more like a soulquality, Maybe CT recognizes that too. and... these teachings are so good, but its what we do with them on the mundane level that makes them come true, and someone writing about them from that mundane level, makes the teaching somewhat more graspable, at least for me. love BES

sigh...one more time of course i do, i just told you: never looked at starwars your observe that i think that i' believe i no longer use reason??? far from that, as I already wrote in my last post, for all your intelligence and having read far more philosophy as I have, you may contemplate to do a training in reading comprehension. shrug

love

see, there you go again, your observations seems to be infallible, but I draw the wrong conclusions, well, have it your way. that's a conclusion, not an observation. An observation is about facts, the moment a sentence comes up like: " you seem to imply " you're in the concluding mode I do indeed dismiss reason as the only tool of knowledge, i will never go back to that state of being, I'm happy I got out of it. But it's a useful tool for many daily things , not to be discarded. You' re concluding (not observing) that "irrationality is your preference for providing you with knowledge. " that's a conclusion that's waaay beside the being sitting here typing. But to be honest I don't care to explain that to you. You would not understand it either, our perspectives are just different, and mine will stay the way it is, probably evolving further in a way that you deem unhealthy, or even evil wish you all the best with your rational ways

see if I can get it with my inadequately thinking equipment, aah yes, It's a nice distinction. imagine me instead , lying in that one corner of my garden where neighbours can't see me, hmm. summer is coming closer, maybe in a few days i can lay me down there, to get tanned all-over. so it is, moralism is strictly for moralists the aformentioned beauty grazes in the meadow here, but you can see her only when you're not looking (now how did I get a picture huh , ain't that smart ) urgh.... could you please not post links to such revolting pictures again, that's neither a pegacorn nor natural beauty.