blue eyed snake

Thank you CP, for your steadfast posting in this thread, even though I but rarely comment, it means much to me, BES

yes, I had a thought, when you can see the world without words, it reveals its true nature. I've had fleeting glimpses of that. Mind is but words, bereft of real value. useful for many things. But it closes the door for seeing reality.

I wonder, did you post something like that you asked your teacher why those things don't happen to you and he advised you to put your question here on TDB? sometimes i read and think I'll reply the next time, but now i'm confused. and what does FPCK stand for?

thanks, i think i get it better now

as it is a cramping sensation, some women get relieve by taking magnesiumcitrate ( or an other form of magnesium), but the advice of both orion and michael resonate here. i'm just happy it's behind me

nice, had a laugh about your small story of Jung, the same pitfalls everywhere thanks for posting

I'm currently on a dutch forum about food as way to heal digestion and other issues the webmaster is a very conceited guy, he thinks he knows it all and is rigid about it. Differing opinions are not tolerated. Still, just as here, some smart people around there with useful info and nice weblinks i would not have found so easily. So I read, but rarely post. At first this guy irritated me, with his fullblown ego... some weeks ago something changed in me, I now regularly have laughing bouts when reading his posts, its just so funny. The way he is defending ( vehemently) his way to look at things, not able to see that there are other ways to look at topics, and other things needed for healing besides what you eat. Yapping about the healthiness of raw milk, when there are many people like me on that forum who can't digest dairy anymore and become real sick when they eat/drink it. In fact, I'm laughing at the way he advertises his ego. But, he's mirroring me, in some ways I'm of course just like him. I'm a rigid smartass too, and i have difficulty absorbing things that are new to me. I hope I'm not as bad as he is but still. Now I think, if i would be able to laugh as hard at my own stupid egoic hankerings and defences, that would be a good thing, anybody ideas of how to laugh at ones self?

I've thought about it, thanks for bringing it to my attention again.

yes, strange isn't it. All other animals see bared teeth as a threat, we humans use it as a sign of friendship and trust. The laughing face is a needed part of taiji and research has ( confirmed this) found out that people who have a smile on their face also have a more positive outlook on the world. I once heard that the smiling ' Taiji-face' helps to get the central channel (more) open. but the real belly-laugh does something else, it gives a liberating feel, a sense of freedom

wow!

it's like, life is beauty and ugly, nice and bad, pain and enjoyment, Yin and yang. And it ain't easy to see the beauty of the ' bad' the painful side. I've been through a lot of pain lately and this poem gives me the feel how to accept, to deal with it. not cognition but some feeling of the beauty/worthiness of pain. cannot find the words for it, but he could! BES I'll look if I can find work of him

Yes, nice you bring it up, I see those two as the sides of a coin. When the importance of judgments of other people diminishes, the mind seems to get calmer

beautiful, you probably know the Canto Ostinato

beauty!

I get it, I was more looking for energetic approaches starting from the crown and the getting down instead of the usual way of starting with the lower dantien I wonder whether we're talking the same thing. I cannot very well imagine my trances to become addictive. The first times it frightened me out, Now I accept it as something that needs to be done. What happens is that i sort of relive repressed fear, anger and to a lesser degree sadness. The emotions I feel are real (and very scary, there's a good reason i blocked these out), the visuals that accompany the emotions are sometimes ( rarely though) flashes of real memories ( think here for example a visual of a place where i was raped) but mostly they are strange and bewildering episodes that somehow convey the emotion at hand very well. Obviously, since I have been ill for a long time it's sometime ago and I will not endeavor that path again until I'm healthy and strong again. but, it has ridden me of blockages that have been sitting there for most of my life. Blocks that no therapy before has ever been able to really help me with. So i'm grateful and regard it as not only important, but in this stage as a sort of corebusiness. In so many ways i recognize the voice of my teacher in your posts, yet on this particular thing you seem to be far apart, therefore I thought I ask you about it more. well, i probably have a high resistance to letting go. also low energy and vibration. But I'm one of the few who gets this effect so strong and looking around to my fellow student I'm definitely not the only one with these issues. I'm doing something that's dubbed something like : qigong to become healthy and vigorous. Workshops are together with people from his class of , well, lets call them senior students... One of his senior students has the same visions happening as I have, he was the one that told me not to get attached to it. but i know from him that he still has aversion to this visions. so, i wonder whether you would call this trance in the meaning you are using the word. sorry, i don't get what you mean here. I once, long ago, have been to a sort of ' spiritual' groupthing, once... I felt like: you're just getting high on your chanting and incense and you're emotion of " look how nice and spiritual we are" I take it that's an example of what you mean? well, i can readily imagine that when nicer visions should come, that it could be addictive and not the way to go, then you would drown yourself in yet another illusion. slowly I begin to get what you mean by that thank you, BES

Old River puts it way better then I can, so in repeat

ah no, I wrote: " I try to set reasonable goals for myself and not become attached to the outcome. But i do need goals to go forward. Not to become attached to the outcome btw, is also a goal" I was not thinking about meditation when i wrote that, but regarding meditation my only goal is that I want to sit every day for a while. That means the goal is that i take my little seat and sit down on it, that's it. At the moment that's far less, but it's what's alright for now, i do not eat myself out for not sitting enough, the rhythm of it will come back all by itself.

this is beautiful, you're opening up a whole new vista for me, I wanna read more of this! BES

of course there was a snake, I'm everywhere i dunno what the snake in that story may have represented, but snakes are important symbols in many cultures. To me the first association is always the way they can be 'dead' and then alive ( well, at least in countries where it's regularly pretty cold) plus that they shed their skins. beautiful symbolism of rebirth. But there's much more. nungali could probably tell more. In this story the association with Kundalini seems farfetched to me

ROTFL

what an interesting post it does - would you indulge me and tell more about this? I do not plan to follow such an approach, i follow teachers my instructions with building up the steamer as basics, no idea what comes next, ill just go on. But I'm interested in all that is about the top-down flow. so true, i've endlessly done an awful movement that i really disliked. but...it should help me get loose a severely frozen shoulder, well, it did still some work there to be done but I can move that arm again. Thank you for explaining your (well-known) aversion against trance(like states). I fall easily in a trance and it has born fruit to me. It gave me sort of direct insight in eh...how will i call it. i think it gives me visions that explain some emotional/energetic/ karmic knots. it's helpful and i feel it has made me go quickly on cleaning old stuff up. Still a long way to go but this feels already so much better. It's just, you need tot to become entangled in these visions, stay 'neutral/observant' to it ( afterwards I mean) thanks for sharing, BES

everybody and everything is your teacher (i think) Musashi

you're a very sensitive materialist

thanks, but I've shed ocean's of tears, i very much hope that the well is drying up now. And the last weeks my illness is abating and laughing comes naturally again. Thereby helping in the healing process. It's indeed the way Steve puts it, i see the idiotic mindloops, the defences i create in my skul. When i become aware of them i do not take them serious, and it came to me that laughing at them, a real bellylaugh, might be a way to curb them to a smaller size