Geof Nanto

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  1. Emotions are the path

    I like that. For me what works well is Daoist praxis for my ming cultivation and Jungā€™s psychological insights for my xing cultivation.
  2. Locking threads, discuss it here

    I agree with all this and have previously mentioned much of it. And yes, thereā€™s been too much focus on the moderators. I suspect that's because they're a new team, operating under new forum guidelines, and still working out what that means for the forum and for themselves. One of my concerns that I've previously expressed less explicitly is that they will stress themselves out by being too self-critical and want to resign from staff. I don't want that to happen. But I also like it that they show this degree of introspection. Hopefully, as they feel their way into their roles and we members adjust to the new guidelines, the focus on the moderators will naturally fall away and they will become more an invisible stabilizing presence as per the ideals of classical Daoism you mention.
  3. Locking threads, discuss it here

    "Filling the conscious mind with ideal conceptions is a characteristic of Western theosophy, but not the confrontation with the shadow and the world of darkness. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The later procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular." ~ C G Jung (I'd amend the first line to read: Filling the conscious mind with ideal conceptions is a characteristic of much of contemporary spirituality.) I fully agree agree with your comments about the quality of moderation on this forum but for me the way I engage with discussions such as this one are definitely part of my practice.
  4. Locking threads, discuss it here

    I completely disagree with this. For me, the health and psychology of this forum is a worthy subject of our attention. It's something we all can influence with our input and it helps determine the shape of this forum. For me, engaging with it and working through how it I feel about it all is a totally meaningful part of my practice. To my mind it's far more productive to engage with this sort of discussion about our Dao Bums community than, for instance, countless words on American federal politics. From a practice perspective, that sort of discussion also its place but only in so much as people gain insight into hidden aspects of their own psyche. It can have no meaningful influence on American politics.
  5. Qs on integrating Taoism and buddhism

    Yes. Along with Daoism, Jung has given me my most valued teachings. I suspect he has special appeal for those of us who have ventured too far into darkness. I have gone as near to death as is possible with still surviving. That experience, many decades ago, took a terrible toll on my body but gave me profound spiritual insight. I've needed much Daoist based praxis in order to recover. For that, shiatsu, diet and a qi focused style of yoga have helped me enormously. One of the best aspects of learning shiatsu was working with a small group of like-minded people under a gifted teacher who I felt a great affinity with. If you can find something like that I'd highly recommend it. I found that level of close contact with people is very healing.
  6. Locking threads, discuss it here

    Although I havenā€™t commented on it, Iā€™ve closely followed this whole Earl Grey versus staff sage from the beginning. And I havenā€™t commented because I have no clarity on the rights and wrongs of the situation. Also, I havenā€™t been involved with, or even read most of the discussions in question. All I can say is that I feel for Earl Grey, he is obviously a dedicated practitioner. Weā€™ve talked via PM in the past and I like him. But so too do I feel for the difficult role the moderators fulfil in trying to do whatā€™s best for the whole forum. Itā€™s no easy thing being a moderator on this forum. In the past volunteers have been scarce because of the flak they cop. It's largely a thankless role. Iā€™d like to keep this team we have now because they obviously carefully consider their actions. They might not be perfect but they are conscientiously doing the best they can. If I thought I could do better, Iā€™d volunteer to be on staff. But I know I could never function in that role. Edit: I meant to type ā€œstaff sagaā€ in the first line not ā€œstaff sage.ā€ I feel tempted to leave it as an interesting variation but also feel such ambiguity is not appropriate here.
  7. Qs on integrating Taoism and buddhism

    Yes, a very unorthodox path. That's why I responded to you because my path, though very different from yours, has also been very unorthodox. Have you considered shiatsu? I recommended it because I found it extremely helpful for grounding my feelings. I've written about it here: But I know from what you've written that you'll follow your I Ching guidance. I too have found wise guidance in the I Ching, especially in the earlier years of my practice. I use Cleary's "The Taoist I Ching." You have my good wishes.
  8. Qs on integrating Taoism and buddhism

    @TranquilTurmoil Thatā€™s a huge story, Elliot. Thanks for sharing. You obviously have a strong spiritual calling. From what you write Iā€™d recommend getting out of your head and working at a body level. That means leaving aside for now the path of non-doing and meditation. An excellent way to start would be with a shiatsu treatment from a therapist you feel comfortable with. He or she might recommend developing a practice such as traditional qigong, Tai Chi or yoga. Working this way, over time youā€™ll find answers to your questions from places that will be revealed to you.
  9. Emotions are the path

    A monster unless we individually come to terms with the darkness that lurks within us all. And thatā€™s not something likely to happen in any significant way anytime soon, as these often-quoted words of Jungā€™s illustrate: "Filling the conscious mind with ideal conceptions is a characteristic of Western theosophy, but not the confrontation with the shadow and the world of darkness. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The later procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular." (I'd add: Filling the conscious mind with ideal conceptions is a characteristic of much of contemporary spirituality.) Iā€™d say the art of amplifying feelings atrophied with the decline of shamanism. They had the ability, that was their science. For instance, they were able to create what the Tibetans call tulpas. (Recently mentioned in another discussion here and in the following few posts. Iā€™d speculate that Alexandra David-Neelā€™s experience as recounted by Taomeow was the result of her having not come to terms with her shadow. That is, her tulpa was her shadow aspect come to life.) From my reading of history, the amplification of these dark feeling energies was pervasive in shamanism. For instance, they used these projections to do battle with other shamans, to maim and kill. That was certainly the case in Australia with Aboriginal shamans. Afterall we humans are primates with huge tribal and territorial instincts. These are our deepest feelings.
  10. Emotions are the path

    Iā€™ve written about the importance I place on emotions in various discussions scattered throughout this forum, including starting a topic a while back with the title, The Dao of Emotions. Itā€™s an important subject because, to my mind, itā€™s handled badly by mainstream Daoism and Buddhism. To illustrate this, as is my want, Iā€™ll expand on a quotation from Carl Jung. In ā€œMemories, Dreams, Reflectionsā€ he writes about how he handled his almost overwhelming emotional reaction1 to the deluge of images that welled up from his unconscious: ā€œI stood helpless before an alien world; everything in it seemed difficult and incomprehensible. I was living in a constant state of tension; often I felt as if gigantic blocks of stone were tumbling down upon me. One thunderstorm followed anotherā€¦..I was frequently so wrought up that I had to do certain yoga exercises in order to hold my emotions in check. But since it was my purpose to know what was going on within myself, I would do these exercises only until I had calmed myself enough to resume my work with the unconscious. As soon as I had the feeling that I was myself again, I abandoned this restraint upon the emotions and allowed the images and inner voices to speak afresh. The Indian, on the other hand, does yoga exercises in order to obliterate completely the multitude of psychic contents and images. To the extent that I managed to translate the emotions into images ā€“ that is to say, to find the images which were concealed in the emotions ā€“ I was inwardly calmed and reassured. Had I left those images hidden in the emotions, I might have been torn to pieces by them. There is a chance that I might have succeeded in splitting them off; but in that case I would inexorably have fallen into a neurosis and so been ultimately destroyed by them anyhow. As a result of my experiment I learned how helpful it can be, from the therapeutic point of view, to find the particular images which lie behind emotions.ā€ Although my way is not to translate my emotions into images as Jung does, I fully concur with him that the methods of Eastern traditions for dealing with emotions, including the well-known method of just witnessing emotions without engaging with them, while appropriate for anyone who has placed their trust in the guidance of a lineage, are inappropriate for those of us whose disposition is such that fate directs us to find our own individual path. For me, the vital questions are, ā€œWhat is my psyche trying to tell me with this emotion? What significant content hidden within me does the emotion arise from? Not easy questions to answer because, by definition, its content thatā€™s hidden from me. For that I need appropriate teachings, contact with other people, and a firm ming-xing practice. With those established, Iā€™m still in the process of discovering the profound significance (and difficulty) of exploring the path of my emotions for navigating my way into my own personally appropriate connection with Spirit, with mind of Dao (daoxin 道åæƒ ), or, to use Jungā€™s term, with Self. All my life Iā€™ve experienced powerful emotions. At times they tear me apart. Yet experience has shown me how Spirit can reveal itself through those cracks ā€“ through my inner fragmentation ā€“ along with the demons that live within my own unexplored shadow. And for those of us finding are own way, the distinction between gods and demons has to be found through individual exploration. An external moral code that speaks in generalisations does not suffice. Iā€™ve experienced the truth of this saying: ā€œAnything can be a path, even a demon. Anything can be a demon, even a path.ā€ Hence, Iā€™ve had to do massive amounts of cleansing work ā€“ a process Iā€™m still involved with. Thatā€™s how I hone my sensitivity so that I can directly feel whatā€™s appropriate and whatā€™s not in any given circumstance. Itā€™s a path of purification through ongoing cycles of being torn apart and regathering myself. Painful at times for sure, but one guided by numinous insights. My active practice, extending over the last three decades, has shown me how difficult it is to shift from an egocentric perspective to a Self-oriented perspective, yet attempting it is the meaningful core of my life. Itā€™s a path that continually takes me to the limit of my endurance. And in the final analysis, easy or difficult has no relevance. Itā€™s the path Spirit has given me. To not explore it means a meaningless existence. And nothing could be more painful than a meaningless life, as I know firsthand from the experience of my younger self. Note: 1. Jung uses the term ā€˜emotionā€™ as a synonym with ā€˜affectā€™. For him, emotional reactions are marked by physical symptoms and disturbed thinking. And thatā€™s the sense I use the term ā€˜emotionā€™ in my above account. He distinguishes ā€˜feelingā€™ from ā€˜affectā€™ in spite of the fact that the dividing line is fluid, since feeling, after obtaining a certain intensity, releases physical innervations, thus becoming an affect. Furthermore, Jung considers the sense of feeling we all possess, so vital for anyone on a spiritual path, has become atrophied in our contemporary culture because of the massive emphasis on thinking. (Incidentally, he defines the field of our consciousness with four attributes: thinking, feeling, intuition, and sensation; all of which need to be developed for wholeness.)
  11. TDB as an organism

    A slightly edited version of something I wrote a while back on another thread: As someone who lives a fairly reclusive life, I come here for community to some degree. I like connecting with other people whose spiritual life is foremost. At times I feel the real warmth that comes from genuine connection. And thereā€™s plenty of variety in personalities and perspectives here. Also, thereā€™s occasionally information I find particularly helpful. However, the nitty gritty of my experience is in working through difficulty. I live within a semi-wilderness environment and my communion is mostly silent interaction with nature. Thatā€™s the core of my life. I donā€™t need any shields against intrusive human vibes or to expend energy on projecting an identity. But that in itself can lead to inner weakness. Iā€™ve learnt that I also need meaningful opposition. Thatā€™s what I find on Dao Bums. The forum abounds with heavily defended city dwelling people, sensitive people who have needs for strong psychic shields. Thereā€™s so much unexpressed emotion lurking behind the words, so much psychic content to contend with. Strong egoā€™s, forceful opinions, powerful identities, hostility both expressed and covert. You name it, it here in spades. All these attributes help me gain insight into similarities within my own psyche. In particular, it reveals my emotional weaknesses and shows me how fragile my serenity can be. That shows me the specific areas I need to work through in a way that allows my heart to remain open amongst difficulty and opposition. For me, that's achieved by an ongoing alchemical process of enhancing and enriching my ability to feel in an undistorted way through the harmonisation of my innate feeling sensitivity by means of transmuting my emotional vulnerabilities so they become inner pathways into deeper reality. I've found by doing so I naturally enhance my alignment with heart-mind of Dao, with Spirit, with my Buddha nature (or whatever else you might like to call it.) And that's the only true basis for inner strength. If a community could ever be perfect then none of us would need to develop inner connection with Spirit, with the Divine. Of course, I appreciate the effort people here, including myself, have made in the past and continue to make to try to maintain some degree of health here. Thatā€™s vital. It's in all of our interests. However, it will always be a futile task to try and impose that from the outside using rules. Ultimately the quality of discussion can only ever be a reflection on our collective de, with the most active contributors having the greatest influence. To my mind, Dao Bums does very well for an online community. Underneath all the surface froth thereā€™s real Spirit at work here. And that can only ever be something that's revealed to us in glimpses. [Addendum: The new moderation team has definitely reigned in some of the more hostile forum traits I've mentioned.]
  12. Two topics now closed fro review: To my mind Dao Bums needs to allow this sort of discussion. It relates directly to practice and the shape of this forum. From Carl Jung: ā€œThe stirring up of conflict is a Luciferian virtue in the true sense of the word. Conflict engenders fire, the fire of affects and emotions, and like every other fire it has two aspects, that of combustion and that of creating light. On the one hand, emotion is the alchemical fire whose warmth brings everything into existence and whose heat burns all superfluities to ashes. But on the other hand, emotion is the moment when steel meets flint and a spark is struck forth, for emotion is the chief source of consciousness. There is no change from darkness to light or from inertia to movement without emotion.ā€ [As an aside, Jungā€™s reference to Luciferianism inspired me to research what he meant. I first read this article about how the name Lucifer became (falsely) associated with the devil. That got me interested in the subject and I wondered at its truth so I followed it up by reading the more comprehensive Wikipedia entry on Lucifer. Heaps of interesting info there. Reading this sort of stuff reminds me of just how rich and fertile a country Christianity is. It's a vast place, full of diversity. Although it feels like a foreign country to me, I appreciate the fundamental truths it seeks; truths that shape our Western culture. From Wikipedia: Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a destroyer, a guardian, liberator, light bringer or guiding spirit to darkness, or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.]
  13. A message to the moderators

    I have no answers to these heartfelt comments about our interactions here. I listen and I feel. The references to thick and thin skins are important, reminds me of something speculative I wrote last year: A couple of weeks ago while I was sitting on the veranda of my studio a flametail finch flew inside through the open door and got itself trapped against a fixed window, flapping frantically against the glass. (I live on a forested acreage and have a studio located about 200 metres from my house.) I tried catching it by throwing a light cotton T-shirt over it but it kept evading my attempts to wrap it up. Easy enough to cover it with the T-shirt but difficult to find such a tiny bird underneath it. After a few attempts I was simply able to grab the bird and hold it in my hand. The whole time I was trying to project calmness and loving-kindness. Now the special thing, the magical thing that awoke a new realisation within me, came about from something I've felt many times before and I'm sure we've all felt without any special realisation. This time feeling the vital essence of that tiny bird, warm and full of wild life, terrified, heart beating frantically, but not struggling found a deep resonance within me. I only held it for a few seconds, just long enough to carry it out the door and across the veranda to release it. That magical thing, that vital essence is something all animals have, including we humans. Itā€™s something hidden within our skin, within my skin. We all have it, yet itā€™s intensely individual. Itā€™s my soft inner core that I must protect at all costs. Itā€™s my animal nature that connects me with all my fellow animals and life in general. For me, that ā€˜little birdā€™ inner essence is what I need to nurture and slowly expose so that it may grow ā€˜self-soā€™ into a diamond body, an indestructible core. Itā€™s my Buddha nature in embryonic form. The normal process is to grow a thicker skin for protection by developing a strong ego and social persona; both necessary to function in society. My revelation here is to relate this external event with my growing awareness of my inner core as something other than my familiar conscious me. It has its own life-force, like that little bird. I have it within me, yet when I feel into it I can feel how itā€™s connected with the same essence in all other people, indeed all life. It's both strange and amazing to feel this mysterious 'something' within me. I want to allow it to grow so that it shows me the way, not vice versa. I know in its fragile state I can kill it with my own expectations.
  14. A message to the moderators

    Much appreciated, but that doesn't mean I like your idea of this forum as a version of the bar in Cheers. As to this discussion, my bottomline is that the forum has a new moderation team and hence a new flavour. Iā€™m interested to see how that plays out over time and want to give the moderators plenty of space to find their appropriate level of policing. Iā€™ll continue to give any feedback I feel is appropriate, as I have done here in my OP. Iā€™m not a major poster but Dao Bums is important for me. I learn plenty from my largely silent, but deeply felt engagement here. Itā€™s a vital part of my ongoing xing cultivation. Hence I try to be constructive in my involvement. While I see the importance of conflict for the reasons Jung expresses it in my OP quotation, that can only work when combined with rigorous personal introspection. Conflict with the aim of knocking the other person out is a dead end for inner growth. And itā€™s toxic for this forum, as weā€™ve all seen.
  15. A message to the moderators

    (My bold added.) I completely agree with this, providing the member receives due warning, which in my experience they always do. And I thank all the moderators for their openness. I greatly appreciate their willingness to explain their actions and personally examine their motives for taking such actions. They have shown they listen to our feedback and modify their actions if they feel it's appropriate. For me, that's what makes Dao Bums a special place. The moderation here is definitely not oppressive. However I fully appreciate that tolerance and introspection can only go so far without stressing out the moderators, in which case they must take actions they deem appropriate. However, I sincerely hope no one needs to be suspended over this. In the context of this discussion, I think it's up to any member criticizing the moderators to thoroughly examine their own motives. And when any member shows willingness to do that -- to find fault within themself rather than inappropriately blaming others -- then they have my full support, my admiration even.
  16. What do you see? (This is a test)

    I like that image. I see within it the shifting of forms formless. Yin manifest, no hard edges or centre. It reminds me of Daodejing 21: As for the Way, it is vague and illusive Vague and illusive! Within it is an image Vague and illusive! Within it is a thing Withdrawn and dark! Within it there is an essence The essence is genuine and authentic
  17. Am I who you think I am?

    Thanks Cloud Hands. Iā€™m happy to leave it at that. To my mind, any further discussion would be counterproductive. Iā€™ve given my account and youā€™ve listened. Likewise, youā€™ve given your account and Iā€™ve listened.
  18. Am I who you think I am?

    Thanks Steve. Excellent . I feel very comfortable with all you have said about yourself and your vision for this forum. I think psychotherapy of an appropriate sort has much to offer for those of us on a spiritual path . For me personally, Carl Jung's insights are a perfect complement to Daoist praxis. His style of psychotherapy goes to the heart of what is now called spiritual growth. What I particularly like is its relevance to our contemporary Western psyche.
  19. Am I who you think I am?

    Thanks Steve. That you are able to respond in that calm way reveals to me the deep reach of your practice. What follows is purely my take on the situation: During the recent time without moderation this forum, in part, became a battleground of people trying to pull each other down. But because it was recognised as a battleground by those involved, people had their defensive shields up, their hearts closed off. Most of us could see the obvious ā€“ namely, thatā€™s not a healthy dynamic for a forum focused on spiritual growth. Thankfully the new moderator team banished that overtly hostile dynamic. I think Steve in particular wanted to make the forum a safe place. I like that but I wondered how it would play out in practice: A safe place for people to reveal their hearts and explore their shadow side, or a safe place where people could build their egocentric persona without opposition? With this topic, Steve in his OP, intentionally or not, has opened his heart to some small degree. He felt safe enough to do so and suggested we all do likewise in our interactions here. Yet what happened shows me how dangerous this can be. We wear our shields for good reason. As I see it, into this opening of his heart, Cloud Hands fired off an arrow. Was it an arrow of compassion designed to heal, or an arrow mean to wound? Iā€™ll leave that for Cloud Hands to answer. In any case I see the hand of Spirit at work here. Growth through wounding and healing are at the core of a healthy spiritual path. I suspect Steve will be able to hold both his commendable public side as outlined by Manitou above and his shadow side, and hence become more whole as a person (though perhaps not with the easy acceptance he has implied.) This is the alchemical process ā€“ a heating of the ingredients with the fire of emotion, leading to a ā€˜chymical weddingā€™ of the previously hostile elements within our psyche so that they are transmuted into pure psychological gold. But that is not something to be rushed into. Itā€™s a lifetimeā€™s work. It requires much inner refinement; especially deep compassion and humility. Try to force it and the whole process goes awry.
  20. Am I who you think I am?

    And with that comment this topic becomes very real, perhaps too real. Something fundamental I learnt from my days as a shiatsu therapist is to never point out anyoneā€™s shadow unless I can be genuinely and fully supportive of them. Otherwise I will simply arouse a fierce hatred from them. Even if asked wouldnā€™t do so here because itā€™s powerful stuff. Very emotive. Itā€™s not something for discussion on a public forum. If what youā€™ve said is real, and I suspect it is, my heart goes out to Steve. My hope is Cloud Hands judgement is good, and Steve is able to handle it. Though for me itā€™s aroused much emotion. A taboo has been violated; an arrow shot into someone's heart.
  21. Am I who you think I am?

    I find this forum is a great place to learn about the psyche of people on a spiritual path, and hence to know myself better. The whole dynamic of discussion here interests me, as much if not more so than the actual content. I note which topics gain interest, how the discussion flows, what power plays are active, etc etc. Currently Iā€™m interested to see how the forum develops under the new moderator team with its emphasis on providing a safe place for discussion. The members who post frequently make great research subjects. Over time they reveal plenty about themselves outside their intent, including glimpses of their shadow side. My intuition about other people is generally good, but dismal when it comes to knowing myself. (From my observation, we are all like that, with those who claim perfect insight into themselves the most blind.) Hence I mostly get to know hidden aspects of myself through reflection. For instance, I note my reactions to comments and examine how I feel; especially when my emotions are aroused. Thatā€™s an indicator of something important bubbling up just below the threshold of my consciousness.
  22. The Earth has a Soul

    I read the following review of this book on Goodreads and thought it well worth sharing here. It was a bit rambling so Iā€™ve edited a little: Most practical book on Jung I've read! Read it if you are restless sometimes or most times. We are suffering, in our cities, from a need of simple things. Nature is an incomparable guide if you know how to follow her. She is like the needle of the compass pointing to the North, which is most useful when you have a good man-made ship and when you know how to navigate. That's about the position. If you are the river, you surely come to the sea finally. But if you take it literally you soon get stuck in an impassable gorge and you complain of being misguided. The unconscious is useless without the human mind. It always seeks its collective purposes and never your individual destiny. Your destiny is the result of the collaboration between the conscious and the unconscious. But reduction to the natural condition is neither an ideal state nor a panacea. If the natural state were really the ideal, then the primitive would be leading an enviable existence. But that is by no means so for aside from all other sorrows and hardships of human life, the primitive is tormented by superstitions, fears, and compulsions to such a degree that, if he lived in our civilization, he could not be described as other than profoundly neurotic if not mad. Some of Jung's advice for remedying the loss of contact with Nature, within or without: - live in small communities - work a shorter day and week - have a plot of land to cultivate so the instincts come back to life - to make the sparest use of radio, TV, newspapers and technological gadgetry The purpose of doing these things, however, is not to repair Nature, but rather to let Nature affect us. ā€œI chop the wood and cook the food. These simple acts make man simple; and how difficult it is to be simple!ā€ ~ Jung All time saving devices, amongst which we must count easier means of communications and other conveniences, do not, paradoxically enough, save us time but merely cram our time so full that we have not time for anything. Hence, the breathless haste, superficial-craving for stimulation, impatience, irritability, vacillation, etc. Such a state may lead to all sorts of other things, but never to any increased culture of the mind and heart. ā€œI detest noise and flee it whenever and wherever possible, because it not only disturbs the concentration needed for my work but forces me to make the additional psychic effort of shutting it out. You may get habituated to it as to over-indulgence in alcohol, but just as you pay for this with a cirrhosis of the liver, so in the end you pay for nervous stress with a premature depletion of your vital substance. [...] Noise protects us from painful reflection, it scatters our anxious dreams, it assures us that we are all in the same boat and creating such a racket that nobody will dare to attack us. [...] The real fear is what might come up from one's own depths - all the things that have been held at bay by noise. [...] Modern noise is an integral component of modern "civilization," which is predominantly extroverted and abhors all inwardness.ā€ ~ C G Jung Jung's list of how civilization makes Modern Man sick (causes and symptoms): - effort to set records - urge towards conformity - desire for material possessions - we keep forgetting we are primates - atrophy of instinct, age-old forgotten wisdom stored up in us - hypermasculine, linear, causal, goal-oriented orientation toward the visible outer world - condescension toward whatever seems "irrational" - overstrained from boundless activity - the disease of knowing everything - extraverted as hell - lack of introspection - greed, restlessness, uneasiness, superficiality, nervous exhaustion - craving stimulation, impatience, irritability - usual remedies such as diets, exercise, studying inspirational literature - can't seem to find a way to live meaningful life - ridiculous clothes, meanness, vanity, mendacity, egotism - always seeking something - too much head, too much will, too much moving from place to place, and nothing rooted - objective existence and meaning - exaggerated self-esteem - inferiority complex - intellect, rationalism - loss of moral and spiritual values - despiritualization of nature through objective knowledge of matter - learned to control ourselves, disciplined, organized - for all his outward success, modern man stays the same inwardly - time-saving devices cram our time so full that we have no time for anything - loss of soul - social welfare - constant noise that protects us from painful reflection, scatters our anxious dreams and the fear of what might come up from one's own depths - thinking we are not nature - people will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own souls - modern education is too one-sided and only enables a young person to adapt himself outwardly to the world but gives no thought to the necessity of adapting to the self - domination of nature Jung's list of solutions to prevent disease/diminish effect: - turn back too simple things - rest - realize that things being sought are irrelevant to a happy life - listen to and analyse your dreams - live in small communities - work a shorter day and week - have a plot of land to cultivate - make spare use of radio, TV, newspaper, technological gadgets - high mountains, rivers, lakes, trees, flowers, animals - mystery, symbols, belief, age-old customs and convictions - spirit - living here and now - spiritual welfare - compensate intellectual work with philosophical interest - self-expression and seeing the fruit of your own labour to nourish psyche - ask yourself whether by any chance your unconscious might know something to help you - look deeply into the eyes of an animal - healing contact with Nature from the outside and from the inside (through experiences of the unconscious and dreams) - cooperation with nature - make contact with the archetypal functions - "Go to bed. Think on your problem. See what you dream. Perhaps the great man, the 2,000,000 year old man, will speak." But dreams are pure nature to which must be added human reflection and discernment. We now know that the dreaming function in mammals is approximately 140,000,000 years old and does have a survival function. (Reviewed by Olivier Goetgeluck)
  23. What are you listening to?

    And this one makes me weep.
  24. What are you listening to?

    The old made new. Makes me smile.
  25. That's the title of a new book by Scott Bradley. Scott is an excellent communicator who has been writing on the Zhuangzi for many, many years. I greatly value his insights, even though I don't entirely agree with aspects of his interpretation. He has a website called Zhuangzi: A site for discussion of the philosophy of Zhuangzi and its applicability in today's world. About himself he writes: "Scott Bradley has long been a student of religion and philosophy. Among his corporeal wanderings was a15-year circumnavigation aboard his 32ā€™ sail boat. His spin on the philosophy of Zhuangzi comes after many years of engagement with Zhuangzi, his contemporaries, antecedents and historical interpreters." About the Book This book presents a personal non-religious philosophy of life inspired by the 4th Century BCE Daoist philosopher Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu). In the face of our irremediable not-knowing Zhuangzi suggests we abandon all supposedly definitive declarations of Truth and instead follow along with the trustful elan of life itself. This can lead to the deeply mystical experience of releasing oneself in trust into the Mystery that enfolds all things. Identified with Mystery, "hiding the world in the world", one is freed from all fear of loss. When life and death are taken as forming a single string, we can affirm our death just as we affirm our life. When no event or circumstance can happen outside the Great Happening our happiness depends on nothing and we can "wander far and unfettered" through life. If you feel the need for a guru, make one up. Who knows your needs better than your own heart? The author has written many sages and Xudanzi, the sage presented in these lectures, is but the latest. A dao (path) is made by walking it, and we all walk our own. Xudanzi's dao is only meant to inspire; your own authentic dao arises as you walk it. https://booklocker.com/books/10279.html