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There is no 'Austrian free market school' there is an Austrian school of economics. So, try again. As to Neo Fascism, that requires a government, so, if you mean the libertarian approach to politics/economics, then it's awfully hard to see how it could be fascist. Fairly big oxymoron, but then, you won't think, you haven't got that all the corporatists and states won't teach, or utilise libertarian, or Austrian economics. Indeed, most don't even know what it is as the trend is still Keynesian and Friedmanite. We have very little in the way of a 'free market' so, 'free market fundamentalism' is a nice word co-opted by the corporocracy and government in order to pretend that they adhere to it-which they haven't since 1900. At present the markets are completely state controlled through the state, the corporations and the fed. All these are fascist and all these are killing the host. Yet, you won't think for yourself. If you did, then you would get the clever twists of truth, the subtle propaganda, the media lies, the control of words that have left you ignorant.

Ah the twists of those who want to use rhetoric to support their sordid aims. Now, I'm no supporter of the world bank, or their operations because it's a corporocracy under the benefice of government in the first place, so you have inadvertantly proved my point. However, what we don't have in these marvellous statistics is the number of failures without the privatised water companies being involved-see that little switcheroo that went off there ? -I'm going to guess that it's actually 100%, which is the only reason why privatised companies were operating in these areas in the first place. Yet there is another problem-the world bank itself with the IMF and its nefarious loans which have plunged countries into debts they could not escape from-is this the real reason for the collapse of those private companies ? See, there is no information. You don't want to get to the truth. Everyone just spins there little stories to hide the circumstances. It's just lies on top of lies. The best that can be said is -insufficient data to conclude anything at all from these stories. Either, like Ralis you are following your own little agenda, or you genuinely aren't aware of the manipulation. You should want to genuinely know the facts before making spurious conclusions that suit your bias. You are blinding yourself. If privatisation was better wouldn't you want privatisation ? I would certainly want the state to be involved if I thought they could make a better job that's for certain. I'm looking for the truth. I'm not libertarian first, I'm reality first, truth first. I'm always trying to find holes in my own thesis. This is the only way to truly learn. You are not doing that. You have a set idea and then attempt to utilise any fallacy laden evidence to suit your belief. That's how school taught you to work. You did not think for yourself, you were encouraged to pass their tests. Until you know this, you will never be free. You have created a prison of your mind by ignorance of truth. I think there is hope for you.

Profit represents the value others place on the product or service others supply. It represents the actual increase in wealth for everybody due to fair exchange. It's also impossible to make a profit fairly without time deferred consumption-capital accumulation. In other words somebody chooses to defer personal gratification now, in exchange for the entrepreneurial chance to increase the capital in the future. It's a huge risk which might not pay off. As most people will prefer to consume immediately instead of delaying gratification - or even borrow from potential future production to have things earlier-then deferred capital expenditure necessitates an increased opportunity cost.

I don't give a fuck about AGW, is that clear enough for you. As for smokers they all knew, as did non smokers that cigarettes were bad for their health-the argument had been settled conclusively by the millions of wheezing, gasping, sick smokers who had tried to stop.

If others wish to live under a ruler then I have no problem with it. I and many others do not choose to live under a ruler just as I don't wish to steal, rape or murder people. If other people wish to live like wild animals then they are welcome to choose a zoo.

I like them battered and fried with chips, mushy peas and a cup of tea. Nice pan fried or oven roasted. Not keen on the bones.

Not half as unfunny and dangerous as yours fortunately.

How can I say if I have or haven't if I don't know how you define your experience so I can contrast it with mine ? Neither have I said the Trivium is the be all and end all, unlike the practitioners on this website who do say exactly that. The Trivium is simply a more accurate way of establishing the veracity of your claims for practices.

Yes, Gene Odening. He does appear on Jans site as that's how Jan started his interest in the Trivium. The warning, as always, is that everything should be questioned. I know what you mean about Jan :-) Gene has a free download sheet for courses and reading matter which I can send you if you wish ? Another option is the Mises course on Mises.com but that comes in at $49. I used Peikoff on the advice of Gene. That course was $11 and you must factor in that Peikoff is an objectivist although he sticks essentially to the pure Aristotlian logic and he does put out where objectivism can offer an alternate. Finally of course you could buy Lionel Ruby's book -Logic and Introduction and work through it yourself ( the issue here is that you won't get the more intense There are always downsides to every option, but once you have the basics you will be able to see where the faults lie anyway. As far as 'conspiracy theory' I was also of that opinion. However there are conspiracies and conspiracies. Some, like Fabian's, Unesco, Club of Rome and the US governments own announcement of Agenda21/NWO are stated world aims and not hidden in any way. No reason you have to buy into any of it in order to work through the Trivium and really it's best to have the Trivium onboard if you interest runs into investigation so you can seperate reality from fiction. Make your logic better than theirs :-) there are no gurus here, learn then be better. A better link probably : http://www.triviumeducation.com/

Meow Mix :-) our cats used to love that stuff. I find the purring extremely relaxing so perhaps it's a social thing to prevent aggression. If you pick up a small cat by the scruff of its neck it will go limp like a rag doll. This is how it's mother would carry it and so it won't offer any resistance. Don't try it with a heavy cat. We used to get mice, rats, a live rabbit and a couple of pigeons and crows. Not so keen on ducks though. We had a nesting pair in our garden and the cats would pad round them, or even walk beside them, but showed no inclination to attack.

Rothbard covered the basics : https://mises.org/library/libertarian-manifesto-pollution Sent from my iPad

You have a habit of adding your personal bias into your arguments in a way which does not help them. Russia is a state, not a private, free market enterprise. There has been no global warming for 17 years despite the previous claims of a 2 degree rise. You want to 'preserve the environment' but that isn't my aim. The environment is constantly changing without mans help. My aim is not to cause unnecessary damage and to have the free market allocate resources properly.

Find me the article so I can read it for myself then I will give you my opinion.

Your answer is to let it continue. Private ownership of the ocean would mean prosecution for those producing the pollution by those owning the ocean. I read through part of your thesis. You have lots of factual evidence, but your conclusion is wrong. Most of the factual stuff such as Plato, HG Wells etc is right, but then you get sidelined into mathematical modelling and resonance whilst connecting it to economics. That's a basic error which is the result of not understanding economic science except for the new wave empirical modellers that regard economics in a similar way to a science like physics. The resonance/spiral is connected to music etc, it is connected to everything but it isn't in the human spirit/action anymore than atoms of carbon.

You are completely crackers, you have no valid argument just a load of disparate, disconnected ideological mysticism. It's pointless continuing a discussion with someone so bereft of logical rationality.

The power to control language offers far better prizes than taking away people’s provinces or lands or grinding them down in exploitation. The empires of the future are the empires of the mind” – Winston Churchill

Very good. Daniel is clearly the aggressor in that version of events, but they are excerpts and I can't remember the film in context. Bees .....funny.

State on state. There are no private properties rights for states. A state is not a person. Who claims the territory ? It is a proxy land grab utilising the resources of the producers to procure arms/force. The law is the law. Theft is theft. Rape is just property theft as is murder. It is the violent appropriation of that which is unearned. The 'free market' is not an ideology. It is proper allocation of resource and increasing wealth for voluntary participants in the round. It's foundation is private ownership and property rights. States ignore both. Governments are instruments of theft and are maintained by theft. The Bible had some pretty good advice about theft. Thou shall not steal. Theft implies something privately owned by fair, productive means. It is not to be appropriated by the force of arms of government. If you participate in it consciously and voluntarily, then you are equally responsible. Just because you did not hold the gun, or pull the trigger it makes you no less guilty. Karma huh, it's a bitch.

But you haven't explained it, managed to define it, or demonstrated it. You have a bunch of concepts for which there are no clear definitions beyond feelings. If I push you, then you will tell me that you just know and all the books tell you these things are real. You are not applying critical thinking to your practices because the gurus, books, feelings tell you that these things will slow/stop your spiritual progress. Yet you do not ask 'what' is spiritual progress, what are these practices doing, what are the purposes of them ? You have accepted the premises without a shred of doubt. I did the same thing.

I do not 'claim' that's what I did. Define 'bliss'. I could never have actually become SRM, but I learned how to model him. It's hard to know who exactly Jesus was or if he even existed as a single person. I've never had a spiritual experience that I didn't use my power of imagination to create. Define Samahadi. The Trivium is the best meditation there is-infinitely superior if you wish to know reality. If you want a mystic experience then carry on with your practices and you will discover many. Define natural state/primordial consciousness. Plateau Orgasm is better than sex. Love is better than both. I'm already real-I-see. I know you mean well TI :-) so do I.

Of course you have either bought into this BS because you are unable to discriminate, or you are an official part of it. Jury's out on that at the moment. Your narrative is exactly that of one who supports the NWO. It has the flavour of the Hegelian dialectic with its synthesis. I can read it very easily-just so you know. Occasionally I like to throw the dog a bone and see what it does with it ;-) Avarice, psychopaths, dishonesty, war, boundaries are inherent features of the state and its government. Chaos has been guaranteed by its existent ene and not diminished. What your synthesis requires is 'one world' in which everyone is exactly equal, total control by an intellectual elite, no more wars, population control, eugenics, the removal of human 'insanity' by force if necessary-reduction in male population, the ending of the destruction of Gaia. Is that about it ?

Well to some extent this is true. An enormous number of people moved from poverty stricken agriculture and into higher value production. This is good for everybody 'all things being equal' however, all things are not equal. The resultant collapse of the western middle classes is a result of government. This is the result of several policies: 1. To control the money supply creating high levels of debt. Low returns on capital savings. Moving wealth to the already wealthy. 2. Crony capitalism that has destroyed opportunities for new, competetive businesses through regulations/subsidies/tariffs. 3. An education system which has been designed for an economy which no longer exists and which is about state control. 4. An over expensive bloated state, welfare, public wage/pension, warfare state government which takes too much tax, borrows too much and is preventing opportunity of employment for the poor/ethnic/black/ young through minimum wages. We have a collapse in the policies which made the West wealthy and are well on the way to a stagnant west which has been called 'the fourth world' which is a world by design or the NWO. Indeed your assertion that you believe this 'equalling up' of countries as being desirable is precisely the propaganda that has been pumped out for the last 25 years. Of course you need to know what you are being fed in order to resist it.

Its true-only Buddhist suffer.

How are you defining awakened ? All this stuff about Chakras and bliss mean nothing at all to me. They aren't part of any experience I'm aware of and neither is Kundalini or bliss. You believe that the body is simply a vessel for realisation, but not what you define as realisation ? Neither do I know what you mean by 'realms beyond the human' ? There are plenty of places where humans aren't within the universe for certain. Is that what you mean ?

Despite the improvements the free market (or wthat which remains) our standard of living of the middle classes is falling. A good example is the current cost of housing. In 1950 a median income could purchase a median home for two years income. Today it takes 10 years of income to buy that same home, despite the government policies to make houses more affordable, they have become 500% more expensive. The value of income has fallen and where once it required only one wage earner to support a family in reasonable comfort, it now take both husband and wife to work. One might ponder the effect on the children in a family that must utilise the state to be babysitter and parent whilst the natural parents work. What about education. Highly educated students leaving college with enormous debts they will never pay back, trying to find jobs that do not exist. We could look at the QE scams, artificially low interest rates which have destroyed savings and dragged retirees back into the workforce. Then there are the wars which have increased the threat to our safety and cost us more of our production and the blood of soldiers , the intensive, costly, personal surveillance on our private lives as a result of creating enemies. Then the Health service which, in the UK is collapsing and Obamacare which is a costly mess. It's pretty endless really, but hey, if I can make a bit of progress then all is good :-) Funnily enough I have just been talking to a guy on the Disqus open comment site who posted a link to Setfan Molyneux's lecture. He was a bit surprised it 'resonated' with me as there are so few of us.