Karl

That brought tears to my eyes.

It's a good point, but you have to know where to direct your fire. A bullet in the tail won't bring it down. You have to know your prey and be precise with your aim. I'm not posting this stuff In denial of you having the right animal, I'm attempting to get you to see where you should place that bullet. It's aim adjustment, you already have the gun, the firing position and the animal.

Again, you have half a story and you make the rest up to fit. Greece knew precisely what they were doing as did the ECB and Germany. GS did its usual thing and you can certainly put the spot light on their crooked acts, but here they were just using accounting tricks to help Brussels find a way to bring the Eastern block into its orbit. It suited Greece and Europe until the crash, then it began unraveling.

It's like you got blindsided by the banksters and the Government. There is truth in the article that you posted, but it's a misdirection of the real culprit and the causes. It wasn't the CDOs that were the problem, they were a symptom, but not the cause. You have to follow the money trail. Where did the debts originate and how. Which banks caused the crash. Was it the investment banks or the commercial banks. Which banks had to be bailed out - which banks converted themselves post crash so that they could also get bail outs. Who guaranteed the CDOs, what were the regulators doing, why didn't the treasury, fed or government see the crisis unfolding- the same crisis unfolding again right now and one which will be far more massive ? Question it all. Everything you heard from every politician, Fed chairman, Tame Economist, media talking head because they are all either outright lying, bending the truth, or are clueless.

Which means you can't produce the factual evidence. Pity, as that would have made a decent discussion. I'm clearly on your side of the equation regarding central banks, fiat manipulation and fractional reserve fraud-so why would I create any kind of argument in opposition ? I believe it woukd be worth your while to investigate if GS caused the crash because it will reveal something interesting about the purpose of using GS as the excuse-remember who it was that said it was GS that caused the issue. I think you mean the 'octopus' ?

Can't ever remember seeing that track on any Isis album ?

Just produce the facts and evidence that it was GS that was responsible for the crash. It should be simple to find the evidence if it's well understood I think ;-)

Boring. Something is either true or it isn't. It's very much in keeping with my ideas. :-) A is A; a thing is a thing; what is, is.

Yes, that's why they said it needed to be created. I can show that they either deliberately, or ignorantly created GS as a solution to a problem that never existed. I suspect the former, but I can't prove it. I can only prove it was the wrong solution because the real issue remains to this day. What caused the 2009 crash Ralis ? Which banks had to be bailed out ? Bearing in mind that the FDIC does not apply to investment banks only to the commercial banks.

I've no idea what that means. It sounds like flapping lips and chest puffing to me and I treat it as such.

Well Joe, I'm going to ask you to provide proof that it was the repeal of the GS caused the financial crisis/ actually it was only ever a partial repeal which many commercial banks never took advantage of - plus of course neither Europe or Japan ever had GS.;-) Then I will prove to you why it wasn't GS at all, but Government policy, Government regulators/FDIC and poor commercial bank management that caused the problem.

Cheesy, tacky, mindless pap with low brow jingles patronising its viewers. That's the remain campaigners, I haven't got to the EUrovision smog contrast.

He doesn't seem obsessed in any sense. Rational people grasp the problem, it isn't this senator that's bringing in 'bathroom laws' it's Obama and his left wing fuck wits. Well you will have to live with what the USA will become. If you sell your freedom cheap for virtue signalling-to gain a value that you haven't earned-you will discover how quickly the elite will take advantage of your vanity.

GS is a red herring used by the politicians and bankers to cover the real issue which is fiat money backed by fresh air, the wall st -FED-troika monopoly, fractional reserve banking and Government policy. The problem is not 'regulation' but that there is a need for regulation (and there is more regulations and regulators in banking than in any other trade by a huge factor). The link between state and commerce has to be cut, the printing of unbacked fiat regarded as the fraud it really is. Banks must be allowed to fail and the creditors/depositors must lose their shirts. Anyone who wishes to insure their savings can take out a policy themselves. As always it's Government that created the conditions and legalised the fraud. They wanted to untie the golden handcuffs in order to sucker the electorate into getting free stuff by mortgaging tomorrow's production. The state gave themselves a credit card and mortgaged the people's future as a result.

Yes, I'm very familiar with the term, but day traders can and do beat the Algobots. It's only if you are wedded to short term trades that things get tricky. Investment used to be long term and anyone truly 'investing' and not simply gambling is in it for the long term. COAEHM is actually wrong headed even if large chunks of it are true. We don't have markets anymore anyway, the banks and the state took them over. They are effectively nationalised casinos run by a soviet style central planner. Those who are close to the FED get the new money for nothing and a guaranteed tip for increasing earnings. The FED and its plunge protection team are playing the same market. It's effectively a Ponzi scheme kept alive by the FED which is now beginning to creak savagely. I suspect they are worried about showing their hand until after Hillary is safely ensconced in the White House, but the financials are so bad that I doubt they will get much further before we get QE4, NIRP or both. I reckon it's close to the end game and we will see a dollar collapse.

:The real reason for all this TG hoop la: American Thinker May 13, 2016 Escape from Obama's transgender school bathrooms By Daren Jonescu Barack Obama's transgender regime has officially carried its demands for your child's compliance with sexual deviancy to the level of an imperial directive: Public schools must permit transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender identity, according to an Obama administration directive issued amid a court fight between the federal government and North Carolina. The guidance from leaders at the departments of Education and Justice says public schools are obligated to treat their transgender students in a way that matches their gender identity, even if their education records or identity documents indicate a different sex. The Department of Justice, which apparently now means primarily "social justice," aka cultural Marxism, is joining the Department of Education – a thoroughly anti-constitutional entity the continued existence of which represents the greatest failure of the Reagan presidency – to complete American compulsory schooling's true, original, and essential mission: the reduction of the population to a confused, helpless mass of spiritually unindividuated "worker units" for the benefit of a permanent corporate-political ruling elite. The sudden (but long anticipated and well prepared) drive for transgender bathrooms in public facilities is part of progressivism's final assault on modesty and personal privacy. Train children from an early age that sexual behavior is a harmless physical gratification, no more important than scratching an itch; teach them that there are no consequences of sexual activity that cannot be prevented or "taken care of" with a visit to the doctor; teach them that marriage and family are mere lifestyle choices not at all different from any other, and in no essential way related to the erotic impulse; and teach them that nothing but the old-school morality of racists, sexists, and homophobes stands between their bodily urges and a dream world of polymorphous pleasures – teach children all of that, and you have destroyed the soul of man, sapped a generation of its vital energy, and dried up the primary sources of civility, personal responsibility, and moderation. Advanced progressives for a century have known two things with perfect certainty: (1) that delayed gratification, sexual modesty, and in general self-restraint are the chief moral obstacles to the compliant, state-dependent collective required of democratic socialism (i.e., populist totalitarianism); and (2) that government-controlled schools are their ace in the hole, the progressive poison in the civic well that ensures that, in spite of all private resistance, the population will eventually, gradually, succumb to materialism and amorality. Here's a prediction that I am very confident in making: thousands of parents who are shocked and disgusted at the thought of their young daughters being forced to share a shower room with boys are going to be in for an even bigger shock when their daughters mock their concern with "what's the big deal, Dad? I mean, it's just bodies, after all!" This transgender assault is being pursued now because generations have been prepared for it. They have been prepared in public schools, which teach – both in explicit lessons and, more importantly, through their social structure – that sexuality is "no big deal," that modesty is for prudish grandmothers, that sexual differentiation is sexist. Eros – nature's delicate thread linking our bodily urges to our essential purposes, our souls to the stars, our petty existence to being and eternity – is being deliberately snipped, in order to leave us stranded on this earth, with no hopes or aspirations beyond immediate physical comfort and pleasure. In other words, nihilism. Men left stranded on earth, without a sense of the divine, including the divine spark within themselves, are primed for a material savior, a new divinity to replace the one toward which Eros and nature had previously pointed us. They are ready, willing, and eager to submit to the State. Nothing less than that – creating the moral (or rather amoral) platform for progressive authoritarianism – is the true significance of Obama's imposition of transgender bathrooms in public schools. Though inherently absurd, this absurdity is an indication of how far the progressives know they have traveled toward their ultimate goal. The good news, for those still able to hear it, is that the solution to this final degradation is both available and actually quite obvious. Get your children, your children's children, and your friends' children out of public school now, and keep them out. If thinking of your nation's girls and boys being submitted to this degradation – and even worse, thinking of them learning to accept this degradation – is not enough to shake you out of your well-trained adherence to the fool's dream of "improving the public schools," then perhaps you are unreachable. If, on the other hand, these thoughts are able to move you, then it is beyond time to get serious about unraveling America's, and the entire world's, most insidious entitlement program: public education. (If you are in this latter group, stay tuned! I'll be explaining all of this – what public education is, how it came to be, what it causes, and what to do about it – in my book, The Case Against Public Education, coming very soon.) On a personal level, the immediate solution, for most families, is fairly simple. It does, however, require long-term commitment, a lot of mental effort – and a genuine love for your children and grandchildren that supersedes petty concerns about practical inconvenience and reduced income potential. If you understand that hearing a thirteen-year-old girl say, "What's the big deal? It's just bodies!" is the Rubicon progressive totalitarians have been aching to cross, and that they are literally months away from crossing it on a nationwide scale, then is there really anything left to debate about?

You might say that-but I couldn't possibly comment. 'Multi dimensional matrices' I think I have some in my garage.

This is true, it's our methods that differ. I don't do wishing.

I sometimes feel I've met my Waterloo but I've at least been helping you making your mind up

HFT isn't really the menace that people think it is. There is still a huge opportunity for long term investors and specialists. HFT is really internal competition rather than causing us all to pay more for goods, it effectively does the opposite. For those in the stock market it might be regarded as slightly dodgy but it's still fallible. It's only the current central bank/state intervention that is problematical.

I wonder who pays for the ESC ? Oh I know, it's the fucking tax payer and to add insult to injury it gets broadcast on the tax payer funded state mouth piece. Bahhhh bahhhh give me freedom or give me the Eurovision Song Contest.

Hang on Michael you agree with me ? I must check my premise :-)

No, it's isn't acceptable for anyone in or out of prison to be raped. The state has a duty of care to those it imprisons. As MH said, it happens outside prison as well. That the state can't protect right within the walls of a high security institution pretty much tells us all we need to know about its ability and will to protect the rights of people outside prison. So, use it as an example and contrast it.

All religions are mystic including some aspects of atheism. Atheism built on muscle mysticism such as socialism, is as much a religion as any other. A deity gets replaced by a social collective represented by the state.

Do you mean in the current crony environment in which the stock market no longer exists, but has been replaced by the state and its federal reserve ? If that's the case I agree with you. However if you are talking about the stock market as a free market entity then you are dead wrong. The stock market-in a laissez faire capitalist sense is an absolute necessity for everyone rich or poor-it's also a very high risk environment and you have to have the money to invest in the first place, it didn't grow on a tree, it had to be worked for and saved. Far from stock brokers and investors 'doing nothing' to make money, they do a lot, they create businesses and are responsible for resource allocation. They drive down the prices of good for individuals, increase efficiency, maintain supply, create alternatives to shortages, increase competition and innovation. In short they are an absolute necessity without whom we woukd all be walking around in rags and starving.