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about nine months ago, as I told before, I tried to correct my mothers energy because I noticed that her back seemed weak. I feared that it would cause her kidney problems later. So i adviced her to breath from all sides of the diaphgram. So I noticed that her back became ok but the corners of her mouth began to drop heavily. This of course means that she loses jing. And so she ages more quickly now because of me. I feel very bad now. I can't advice her to go back and breath with only the stomach side(what I believe she did before) because I know that it can lead to very bad things and make things far worse(I know thisfrom experience). Just smiling so the corners don't drop won't do anything, because the corners of the mouth dropping is just the symptom, not the illness. Any advice?

thanks, but I told her some time ago to gently pull in the Ldantien area (so the attention would go there) but it didn't help

I never taught her any exercises, just told her to breathe from all sides. I remember now, that maybe about 3 months ago, when I saw that the corners of her mouth were still going down and it was not being corrected by itself, I told her to breath a little from the back side and more from the front(but it didn't help) and told her that I may have been advising her incorrectly, but she said she didn't even remember what I had said before and then I let the whole thing be and didn't say anything about that after that. And I have very bad experiences of just breathing from the front area of the body, so I won't be giving any advise to her to going back to that. She didn't have back pain, I just noticed that her back seemed weak, that's why I told her to breath like that, now the back looks normal, but the corners of her mouth are going down.

Ok, thats new to me. But what type of energy do women have then? But what you say about my father I don't understand, Im over 30 and don't live at home and he does take care of my mother.

I add that losing jing doesn't always manifest in the mouth area. If one leaks jing from the anus, then the corners apparently don't drop, but heavy loss of course shows itself from the face. Or if chi/jing leaks from the ldantien it may not also show.

I have experienced it personally(edit. although I have to say, its been so long that I can't really remember but I think I lost jing before)and more recently I saw it in my father. When the corners of his mouth started to drop, you could, after some time start to see him looking more weak. And after the chi/jing was correct and the corners of his mouth were normal, he started looking fine. Thanks "Taoist Texts", I really wish you would be correct, but im afraid not.

Hi all, just wanted to ask that is the method of breathing the same with women as with men? With men, I assume its enlarging the midsection from all sides like in the picture(don't remember where I saved it from) what do you think?

I wasn't thinking cultivation only but about breathing all the time. Thanks for the input sonofthegods and bearded dragon.

Hello all, I have a question: About a half year ago, I noticed that my mothers back seemed weak and I thought that this was because her breathing is not correct. So I instructed her to breath with all sides of her body(as I learned from some books and internet). My father was also present during that instruction and also did it. So after a while I noticed that her back seemed stronger and normal, but the corners of her mouth began to drop(because of jing depletion). My father had the same thing but with him it was fixed by itself. So I would like to ask, that if putting the weight on her heels would help,would there be more pure jing circulation to her spine? anybody else had this experience? I met her today and she seemed better than before. Maybe I will wait, so as not to mess things up more. Or what do you think about the heel thing? thanks!

Hello all, I am a man in my thirties, really trying to find balance in my energy body. But really I came to the forum because I had one question, although I have been coming here before.

thanks!