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Arya, if you have no idea what pretty or cool sounding words mean, then maybe the time hasn't come for you to worry about them yet. If you want to have sex, perhaps it would be best to just acknowledge that as a fact of your momentary experience without the added baggage of words and ideas you don't understand. And, as 3Bob wisely pointed out, keep in mind that choices can have very far reaching consequences.

So today, with all the posts I've seen about acquiring powers, and my own recent experiences of dealing with all the suppressed shit in my own mind, I thought I would look into the correlation between madness and enlightenment. Found this article: http://www.npr.org/2015/03/29/395849232/understanding-the-dark-side-of-enlightenment-on-diamond-mountain My personal thoughts are if it doesn't make the world around you more vibrant, and your personal relationships more genuine then somethings wrong. If it's adding more shit in your mind maybe it's time to go for a walk in the woods. But we'll all do whatever it is we'll do.... and things like this will happen.

These words bring gladness to my heart.

Yes.

My only wish regarding this at the moment is that the indiduals who have put the time into the energy work would exercise a little caution... Thank you Kubba. I'm going back to watching the birds.

The water path.. being nothing but the mirror other's see themselves in, and understanding that they are just another lost you, so you are left with the only compassionate option being to let them work their own shit out through you is indeed fraught with peril - especially when a fire personality with much more power than yourself keeps attacking the reflection that he sees with energy work you did not even know existed until you got hit with it. Yeah, sometimes shit gets burned away with somebody else's light...

People can and do drive themselves mad with things discussed here.

I was thinking more along the lines of what feels like static electricity - without goosebumps. Which is what happens with me when the words stay out of the way of experience. But there are unacknowledged fear goosebumps too. Only the OP will know which experience he was having.

It seems to be physiological reaction when we see through the eyes of open awareness - when we experience body within mind.

I would also suggest we should not; it is sad when our own clouds rain upon others, and obscure us from seeing the clear expanse of their sky. And yes, unfortunately sometimes it is inevitable. Which is why it is so important for us to find that underlying trust in the clear blue sky above, so that when others (as reflections of ourselves) see us only through their clouds we are able to see and respond to the expanse of clear sky beyond those silly little clouds. ***** I could be hurtful to other; I could not harm him, and a feast has been set before me. To be is enough.

It means that woman as loved and cherished partner may very well respond as exactly that which is sought.

The slow death of neglected soul... not having seen past the emptiness to the potential that lies within that very emptiness. Emptiness is a step; it isn't culmination.

The rest is madness.

It was not wonderful at all Nungali. In one moment I would be responding to the actual person, and in the next all of the buried bs in my mind would start swirling around and burst forth in manic fashion. The ghosts in my mind haunting not only myself, but keeping me from being in the moment I was in, and preventing me from seeing what was right in front of me - projected onto a very real person who did nothing to deserve it. No, it was not wonderful. Getting stuck in our minds and constructs is not the answer.

Arya, from a woman who has just rediscovered the sacred feminity within, I feel the urge to assert that women do not need to be suppressed for men to feel masculine. The man I live with is being transformed himself through my journey of rediscovery, and is himself in a better place than he had been.

Thank you for the article Nikolai. The following quote speaks directly to what I have recently/am currently experiencing - my mythology found, yet not entirely acknowledged. ********** "This interior mythological adventure begins in threat and the dissolution of our identity. The entire unconscious takes on the appearance of our "shadow" immoral, immature, awkward, unadapted, and above all threatening us with insanity. This is the period when the Sun Hero realizes that the realm of darkness cannot be avoided. Successful analytic work at this stage results in our discovery of powerful new values in that "subterranean sea". The unconscious takes on the mystery and allure of a figure that generates erotic interest. Generally it is personified as an attractive but dangerous figure of the opposite sex ("anima" in men, "animus" in women) who inspires us with interest and passion to undertake new adventures: "A man who is not on fire is nothing..." ********* And it is a very real, ordinary and exceptional man that my unconscious is dancing with... and I am not so very unconscious of this.

I would say, in this moment as we surround a friend who is feeling lost with warmth and support and what feeble words we have to point to the answer within we are just that which your words point towards. So long as there is connection, openness, and spaciousness there is also an acceptance that allows both for this moment of suffering, and a non-demanding, non-asserting, unattached glimmer of hope. In this moment we are that which we seek.

And... we are the awareness non-conceptualy lying beneath the experience - the clear light within.

Everything, I would suggest that you aquire a translation with commentary.

Yes, sometimes we just need to be reminded of this... we are experience, not the thought that would describe the experience, and not the words we find ourselves lost in.

Your mind sure is being judgemental of itself... You are not in a place to give more, and that's ok. Sometimes we have to give to ourselves too - space and openness to just be, to find our balance. ****** When the fire has diminished to glowing embers we can feel like we are suffocating in the flowing waters of life happening all around us. We are pulled along by the fire of others - with so little of ourselves to offer, all go with the flow - unable even to see the embers still aglow within us. If you can find those embers within you and fan them with a little air, give them a little space, you may just feel a change in your perception of the world around you. But first you have to trust that the embers are still there; you are alive - it cannot be otherwise. All of this is ok. Every little bit of it.

Good morning to you who call yourself everything. It is nice to see you.

Sometimes I remember thinking/saying similar things, believing I knew what I was talking about. The words mean something different to me today. Maybe in the future they'll mean something different yet again. Yes, it certainly does feel this way sometimes. And this too is ok.

It will be quite personal for you too, and I don't think my personal will help you find your way through yours - all it can really do is muddy the waters. Your answer is not in my stories; I've finally learned that even my answers are not in my stories. All I can tell you is that you are ok, and that there is better than ok when you are ready to surrender to it.

Yes, a form of ego death. My experience is sacred to me, and will not be the same as yours in any case. But the answer, for me anyway, was surrendering to the fact that I was suffering, that I was not as ok as my ego told me I was, and that I was ready to willingly walk away from that which I had previously used to define myself. It is an emotionally painful process... There seems to be no end to 'deeper still', but in this moment I am better than ok, and the world has opened up for me in ways I could not have anticipated.