ilumairen

After giving this some consideration I find myself disagreeing.

Perhaps it would be simplest to suggest that the people who feel lacking in power will seek what they feel to be lacking?

Choosing your post because I know and trust you. Sometimes internal things occur, and they're curious happenings. There are people here with information I don't have, and yes, some people with lots of words and aspirations.. Sometimes I wonder about the power seekers, and then I settle back into it really doesn't matter.. either a foundation is there or it isn't.

"I've nothing to offer that isn't already inside you, so why do you look to me instead of within?" It's a lovely sunny day here, and every once in awhile the wind kicks up. This thread, and what you previously quoted, reminds me that thought is soo very much like the wind.

Fun

May I have a glass of wine and sit with you guys for a bit? Honestly, I think this is what rideforever has been pointing towards since he arrived at the bums, and that it even underlies his posts in this thread. What he may be missing is the natural affinity to words that resonate with personal experience.

Let's say the siddhis manifest in the god realm. It is said that the demigods sling arrows at the gods, and grow ever more frustrated as the arrows fall as flowers at the god's feet. And in this, your analogy is very fitting. However, for as easy as the gods appear to have things they are still subject to decay, death, and abandonment as their vitality and health fades.

Will you be joining this Sunday's meditation?

I'm curious. Couldn't it also be said that "the first movement" arose out of stasis?

Mildly interesting.. So what is the reason for a being like yourself to go online?

Just to clarify, this was generalized, and not actually directed at lifeforce - who I actually have found to be kind and considerate, right?

I did not suggest this, and am hoping that now we've given the mud a little time to settle you may be better able to understand what I've actually written - instead of your inaccurate interpretation. Nope. It was your own words that led to the (rather gentle) admin action. You see, in this place people might make reports due only to disagreement, but action will not be taken on that basis alone. Soo, without your foray into the realm of personal attack no action would have been taken. One reason dysfunction happens imo, is because some individuals put responsibility for their own choices and behaviors at the feet of others. Another is not taking the time to understand what is actually being set forth before attempting to continue an argument (that may be erroneous). I am assuming you are placing the blame elsewhere (those pesky individuals who disagree with you), and deflecting your own culpability.

Where does the lotus grow? I've yet to meet somebody who doesn't bring anything to the table - even if I choose not to ingest (internalize) what they've presented. Please explain how what you're suggesting differs from what you're taking a stand against.

Yesterday's kerfuffle: The guessing game can be fun, but I still like context.

:waves: I'll miss some of you guys.

"And in the darkness bind them." Kinda appropriate for a black hole.

What I mean is, if a person's words are found to be a bunch of shit buy another person, the second person can easily say, "I see no value in what you present" - or walk away. And there will be no issues or repurcussions. The second person also (clearly) has the option to "kick it up a notch", but they should also be willing to accept the repurcussions for their own choice of words. Once someone has stepped into personal insult, to then fall back on simply 'due to disagreement' is disingenuous imo.

Disagreement is not grounds for moderator/admin action. And this reverse victimhood seems very odd to me. Sometimes it's not what is said, but the manner in which it's said.

I'd be interested in how some Daoist schools interpret straw dogs...

I like it here, thanks. Yes, clearly you know how to read, or we wouldn't be typing words at each other.

Your metaphor didn't fit, and I enjoyed playing with it. People here are in different places and carry different tools to fulfill their varying tasks. If someone else's tool is not appropriate for you then simply don't pick it up. And if you find you've inadvertently picked up something that you find not useful to yourself, then set it back down. It's really quite simple.

As far as I've seen there have been no personal insults made to you by the individuals discussing magic. At which point, you'll be left to stew in your own acrimony, and sort out where the insult actually lies.. :hint hint: you're carrying it. You agreed to the Terms Of Service when you joined this site, and have already acquiesced to their authority. And yet there you sit - typing away.

Quoted both posts for context. I took a few years sabbatical from internet forums. When I returned I found this site alone to be lively and thriving. Why is that? Probably because there is an understanding that this isn't a building site, and everyone isn't going to be wielding the same damn hammer.

Fire and Blood

Thanks for the reminder. Need to add honey to the grocery list.