Kar3n

Most, if not all, of my dark, heavy experiences have been moving beyond myself and all of the preconceived notions and personal injustices I had attached myself to. There have been times when sharing space with someone I felt as if I were under attack, literal physical body sensations and heinous visions. It was only me and my own issues being brought to the surface by the other person who likely shared a very similar attachment or issue from this or a previous life. There have been times when I have picked up on another person transmitting energy and some of those times have been difficult to manage. It took a long while, but, most of the time, i'm able to not attach a "story" to what I am feeling and just allow all that I am feeling or sensing to pass through as just energy. I have told every person that I have worked with that energy work is not easy, it is hard, it is personal and it will kick your ass, but you will be clearer after working through the rough spots and coming out on the other side wondering why it was so rough in the first place.

Again, I can relate to what you are saying, many bums can. There are many systems practiced on TDB; finding balance between passion for our respective practices and respect for one another is invaluable. I hope we can all take at least that much away from the interactions over the last few days and expand from there. Best, Karen

Thanks for the explanation, and I do understand far more than you might believe and know exactly what you are talking about on many of the points you raise about being dismissed, called delusional and heavy, dark experiences. However, with all due respect, I have to ask why you are here and what is your intent? You have been encouraged, asked questions, and identified with and at every turn you refuse depart from the typical MoPai rhetoric. Is this some sort of test for you guys, a marker that you are a faithful, loyal students and can continue on the MoPai path? I am not trying to be disrespectful, I am genuinely curious as to why one would join an open discussion forum and decline to interact on a personal level, especially when conversing about something they are so seemingly passionate about. Best of wishes, Ilovecoffe. I hope that you achieve all that you are working toward.

I hear what you are saying, I and my friends, fellow practitioners, have faced a lot of scrutiny on TDB, yet we still remain. I think that the main issue folks have is that everyone that comes here speaking about MoPai says the exact same thing. It is all about the John Chang video and what he achieved. There is never any personal experience shared, e.g. how has your practice has improved your life, how has your perspective changed when looking at the world around you? The sharing is what engages folks. Sure there will be some naysayers, there always are, but if just a single person were to take up the path you are intimately sharing, would it not be worth it? Stepping out of our own comfort zone is the hardest part. It is still sometimes difficult for me to discuss the energetic process of how I practice because many folks just do not agree. I simply state my case and let people know that I am not seeking approval or validation, I am simply sharing. It is really up to each individual to accept it or not. I hope my openness has given you some insight into that MoPai is not the only group to have ever been critically examined on TDB (likely not to be the last) and that it is still possible to be part of the community and contribute in spite of it all.

acumen

I chuckled at that one too.

No, sadly, you can only ignore members. You can set your activity stream to show only content you follow.

If only I were 45 years younger...

He just wanted to make sure I know how he really feels. I hope it did him some good to get it off of his chest. Sticks and stones...

Yes, it was. A small cooling off period seemed to have helped. It is now in the pit, and the topic has gone so far south, I do not see the point in keeping it locked.

ignites

What direct evidence can you provide that drinking the water you offer will lead to Chang-like abilities for everyone who decides to drink it?

Then can you please explain the differences from your perspective, please?

So, coffee. are you saying that none of you have achieved to the point of being able to demonstrate what John Chang has? Is that why there are no videos of students to demonstrate the validity of Kosta's and Jim's system? It is fine to say that you all are still growing and striving for the same outcome as John Chang. I think most folks are and have been looking for someone to say something about the system that has not been said hundreds of times before on these forums.

You did not read what I wrote, did you? I gave you two options. Deleting your account will also remove other member's posts. If you do not wish to converse here, turn off your notifications and simply choose to not log in. You can also go back and edit out all of your content if you prefer to go that route. I will not delete your account at this time for the reasons I specified above, though it is not out of the question at a later date.

We are still looking in to the ramifications of deleting accounts and the effect it will have on other member's posts within topics. I can suspend your account for a specified amount of time or I can permanently ban it upon your request. After we have completed our investigation, I will delete your account if that is the route admin decides to take with requests for deletion. Please let me know how you would like for me to proceed.

I am getting the feeling that folks are not confused.

distill

Try it now...

Here is your PPD, Ilovecoffee. https://www.thedaobums.com/forum/519-ilovecoffee/ Please remember- forum rules apply, even in a PPD.

Nothing will be moved or removed from a PPD without the member's request. As far as a ban goes, that is on you. You seem to be doing well staying within the rules and ToS so far... Do you have a previous (banned) account here that already has a PPD we can change the name on or revive for you?

world

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