Earl Grey

I'm just me, warts and all. And I gave you an answer, and it didn't appear satisfactory to you, so I can't really say much else since I don't know what you're trying to get at, and will let others chime in before seeing if there is anything worthwhile to mention. Maybe. No offense taken, no disturbance at all. If I have something to say, I will; if not, I don't and just listen if it interests me.

No, I don't know what you're trying to ask as I've said, and when I ask you clarify, you refuse to do so, and don't like the actual answers I give as best as I can. Again, you can do this dance all day and night and get nowhere, but it will never change the fact you don't know what you don't know, but when given answers from people with relevant experience and qualifications, you don't like what you hear. In the meanwhile, I'm happy to stay as I am, just as my own teachers and students are happy to remain this way, because it keeps busybodies and freeloaders like you out of our hair.

More like Do you realize you're using a tampon on your face instead of a napkin, or do you not care how idiotic you look? Your questions show no understanding of what you are even trying to ask, so until then, continue wasting your time.

As far as I have seen, even from Flying Phoenix to Fragrant qigong. But if you're already certain of your answers, I'll take a pass on saying anything more. I gave an answer that was a basic principle, and ZZ in Yi Quan has both zero and light intention to heavy intention. It is a simple answer I got before that I found was best instead of overthinking things over the past ten years. Details come with experience and relative to what you practice, and LKC readers do ZZ quite differently from us in Xin Yi. There are all kinds of right, but I have found general principles consistently from practice. tl;dr: My answer worked for me and our school. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Intent—qi follows yi.

This is Rubeforever’s script: Rube: ”Can someone tell me how a BLT affects the chakras after I do Taijj?” Teach: ”That has nothing to do with Taiji.” Rube: ”You are a fraud! You should know!” Teach: ”I teach Taiji. I am not a nutritionist.” Rube: ”Well, of course you should know! After all, people who do yoga know how to make chakra boosting juices!” Teach: ”Okay, what are you really trying to ask?” Rube: ”You should know! It’s obvious! You just aren’t a real master even if you know how to fight and won a few tournaments; REAL Taiji masters know which gods talk to you when you do specific movements! It’s as obvious as grape jelly on anchovies pizza!” Teach: ”I don’t get what you’re trying to ask.” Rube: ”See? Simple questions! You can’t even answer! Fraud!” Teach: ”Okay....” 🙄

And yet you still fail to realize that sir, this is an Arby’s.

Oh, I get it! I know who you are now. You are THAT guy. The guy who digs for ass nuggets and wonders why nobody wants to shake your hands after, then gets mad at THEM. The guy who goes to a doctor to see what’s wrong, and calls the doctor a fraud because you didn’t get a pap smear when you requested one or explain to you why you can’t get one in a satisfactory manner since you believe it should come with every visit like a lollipop (you think they’re the same thing). The guy who found everything on Google and concluded that the Holocaust never happened because it wasn’t in any official records and calls everyone else a schemer creating a Zionist conspiracy. The guy who goes up to a bunch of Hell’s Angels at a pub trying to look tough who brags about having a good paparazzi in your garage because you think a paparazzi is a high end motorcycle. I see how it is. Okay.

I have all those books, and YOU are the one who shows a complete inability to comprehend what’s in there. People answer whatever they understand through your incoherent words, and you get what you asked for, not what you want to hear, bub.

I am not concerned with what they think. I am merely relating that you’re quite certain of yourself, but from an outsider looking in, you look like a tempestuous child. It is more like it’s impossible to have any conversation with you because you can’t communicate anything even close to something coherent while assuming your knowledge of the internal arts is superior if someone doesn’t accede to your ridiculous criteria that has nothing to do with the actual criteria for the internal arts...supot ka. Anyway; I have my skills, my students and my teachers have it, and you can keep begging for things and getting mad that you’ll never have anything because of your stupidity, especially when acting like you don’t want it—a lot like a kid who thinks reading literature is a waste of time because he can’t comprehend anything that doesn’t have a wiki or YouTube tutorial.

There is no indication I care about what others think. That was a response to you saying Borrowing from Nungali: I dub thee: RUDEFOREVER: PROJECTOR EXTRAORDINAIRE!

Everyone who reads this thread can see who knows and who doesn't based on what questions you're asking, and your hostile responses to any attempts to make heads or tails of what you're rambling on about. I have informed opinions because I read the texts, I have the lineage, I know the technical skills and history of the arts--and you have DVDs, YouTube videos, and beg for free information on this forum. Get the burnik out of your mouth, paré.

It's a locals thing for some cultures I've lived amongst. Whether it's Filipina wives for American husbands being threatened by taxi drivers, Masai herdsmen for Korean engineers being mugged by bandits, and Chinese mothers to merchants trying to rip off their foreign-born children, as soon as someone knows the local language, they must know people, and those people must at least know the police or someone scarier--usually someone the perpetrators know. Another similar thing, domestically when I used to live in Pittsburgh: when I would go into the 'hood, this is something that never would have happened in Compton or Oakland back in California. Someone would come up to me and say, "Hey homie! Do you know where you are?" and I'd say I was looking for the gallery around Garfield, and they would say in return, "Oh! Homeboy, you took a wrong turn--this ain't the kinda place you wanna be around. Go back two blocks and turn right, then when you get to the traffic light, it's on the left. Easy to miss." I was in gangland. Later, my friends explained that whatever happens in the hood, they go to county jail and usually come out shortly after, anywhere between a few days to a few weeks. Anything that happens among boyz in the hood was between them and only them. Now, as an outsider, they had every reason to make sure I was out, and especially if a white guy was there got hurt, it would be federal prison for them...

Your communication skills are horrendous. Anyone's efforts to try and clarify don't result in your willingness to elaborate on what you mean, showing that you don't understand a damned thing you're talking about. When they show they have a hard time understanding, it isn't because they have no knowledge of the internal arts, it's because they plain don't understand you. I know what I can do, I know what my lineage does, I know what has been achieved countless times with all other students in our school. We have power, skill, rooting, grounding, fajin, good health--things you will never get jumping from DVD to DVD or YouTube video to YouTube video, bitching and whining on every thread about how nobody understands. You will never have what you seek because all you do is complain and write off all those with any knowledge and power as being fakes whenever they refuse to adjust to your snotty attitude. Continue whining--that seems to be your best talent.

If that were true, then Ron Jeremy, Larry Flynt, and so on would be broke.

Welcome. A few friends from the former Yugoslavia were members here before, and one of the best teachers I met for internal training is too, who is often mentioned here as a referral for his teaching, John Dolic.

I think I'd love to be a filler!

I've met beggars and muggers living in Phnom Penh before: they held my friend up on the street and asked for $5 each, and even when he had more to give, they just handed his wallet back as they only wanted the $5. On the bus, people have been held up and handed their wallets over before to see someone take out $2 and hand back the wallet too. Such is the mindset of the Khmer, but there are also the casino scams among other things in Cambodia.

You seem to be asking where the qi flows when we do the movement--this sounds like a question asking the health benefits of each individual movement. We don't train to see that, this is the kind of thing that health practitioners like Eric Isen see. We were trained to have qi follow the yi, the intent of the mind, from one form to the other for martial purposes. Whatever happens besides the martial aspect is a healthy side effect since health is not the goal of our Liuhebafa, but a side effect. You are both misquoting me and totally missing the point. I did not say this is unique to Liuhebafa itself, but in comparison to Taijiquan. It is the focus of Liuehebafa: fighting multiple opponents. Obviously there are arts like Baguazhang that teach fighting multiple opponents, but this is compared to Taiji, in addition to being able to hide intent until the very last minute before finishing a move. This is why talking with you is difficult: your assumptions and premature conclusions all completely either miss the point being made or deliberately ignore it entirely. Simplifying what you are saying would help. The six harmonies and eight methods are there in the name--you rewire your body to be able to use the eight methods effectively, and it's not just an energetic thing, it's a physiological change through the eight methods you get trained in to rewire your body, at least as we do in Xin Yi.

I will repeat: what do you mean by energetics? Clarify YOUR definition and your understanding as to how you’d explain it because this answer can be explained in a variety of ways, but you have to be clear about what YOU specifically want to know. As for LDT, we do not focus on it at all in our lineage—it develops as a side effect, not because we focus on it. Liuhebafa is simply compared to Taijiquan a means of fighting multiple opponents while hiding your intent, as Sifu Terry describes it, and as we describe it, it is as its name implies, the six harmonies. Don’t dump vague or broad questions—specify, as you have a tendency to disregard the actual technical language used in IMA and use your own, and dismiss criteria given when it doesn’t match your expectations, which your above posts and in the other threads have shown. It will be a lot easier explaining if you focus on specifics and elaborating on what you mean rather than assuming others don’t know or giving vague questions.

Clarify what you are asking--I don't understand what you mean or what you are looking for as you use your own vocabulary that is not consistent with the technical vocabulary in internal arts, and what you imply you're looking for oftentimes is a lot different when you follow up to any answers given. I am sure about the dance as I've learned it. What energetics are you referring to and what specifically are you trying to understand? What do you mean by their relationship to the energetic goal? It's a martial art. The system has a function, but each lineage has a different goal, but usually the martial goal is defending yourself--how you get to that point and how you express it, however, are totally up to how you are taught and what you are learning, as well as who you lern from.

What do you want to know? I respond best to politeness, humility, gratitude, and respect, which are always welcome moving forward, regardless of prior interactions. If you can do this, and actually want to ask questions to learn, not to go on long rants and dismiss facts, I might be able to help.

Remember Biff in the Back to the Future trilogy and how he would always get covered in shit? When I was working in agriculture, I never knew there would be a day that I was going around a village asking people to let us have all the shit they had on their property from their cows, chickens, and mules. We needed it for fertilizer. Some people can't stand being around shit, but sometimes, you need shit to help grow what is needed, unexpectedly.

You do not have sufficient skills or understanding to make this assessment, which is 100% wrong. The fact you said "all" is enough to make this statement false. False comparison--just because you don't understand Liuhebafa doesn't mean that they are teaching in error. There are indeed those who teach it poorly and learned it poorly, but that doesn't mean that all of Liuhebafa is fragmented--it's just not widely available. I post David Chan because he has skill and power--you insist that he "doesn't have 'it'" as far as you're concerned--except he does, you just have a terrible understanding of IMA and seem to think that removing the martial foundation and application is still going to give you what you're looking for--nope, it's no longer going to have that quality since that was its root. Nah--you just haven't humbled yourself enough to approach someone or be accepted by those who do know. Except I did learn what was promised in four years and have been learning more. Just like all my classmates. Easy to say I'm a fool and claim I don't have it because you don't have what you keep complaining about not finding anywhere. There appears to be a causality between how often you open your mouth and how much further you get from finding what you want. I have a lot more than that and my own students not only can verify it, but can demonstrate more skills themselves, whereas you are doing a very good job of describing the wrist rotating movement you do at the keyboard--which happens to be a verb and a noun that describes what you do and who you are. I have an even better trick: knowing how to annoy the hell out of you every time you post an uninformed rant about not having any skill or not being able to learn anything from your DVDs and your issues with teachers. They are quite simple: you're a whiner and you'll never learn anything that way, and you are a pest who goes around giving advice that leaves them worse off than they are if they didn't know anything before you opened your mouth. Doesn't have anything to do with agreement or differences of opinions--you're just wrong. Also: you have nothing to show for all you've wasted on your DVDs and even more time wasted complaining again and again on this forum about what you don't have, don't know, and will never have or know either.

Let's hope it's not this horse: