Earl Grey

Read some more. Good night.

Wait for me; I too think I could could take a short break since we've left him with some good food for thought already.

Do you identify with being an incel? If not, there may be hope for you. It is better you seek to improve yourself than to resort to victimhood. I do not have stable income now. I am only 1.7m tall and mixed race. Yet, I have not had problems with women, sex, or relationships if I wanted them. I have had problems in my relationships, but that is another story for personal growth rather than just spirituality or needing to use transactional framework to have a relationship or sex, or superficial means of measuring worthiness like one's physical appearance. I do not have any shame in saying that I enjoy sex and pornography, but am also a cultivator and have my own spirituality. Your view of humanity speaks more to self-rejection and sounds a lot like Holden Caulfield if he had read Autobiography of a Yogi. Do you have a mentor or teacher whom you can talk with about these issues? Therapist, perhaps?

I'm responded again because this post was edited. This seems to be a hint of a very unhealthy attitude towards sex, women, and a judgmental attitude that is precisely the opposite of spirituality. Sure, I make fun of people who appear to claim they have internal power or skill--but those are technical criticisms and also to poke fun at those pretending to have power and hold arrogance. See my comments towards ChiDragon/ReturnDragon for example and his pretentions. Yet I am also not afraid to learn, to admit wrongdoing, and apologize when for example, the member Lord Josh Allen, actually is not pretending to claim power but to do inner work through his magical practices rather than manipulate the actual phenomena itself. I stood corrected and now appreciate his work for what it is instead of what I misunderstood it to be. Acceptance, authenticity, and openness are keys to part of spiritual maturity. What if I told you that there are indeed some practices where sexuality is not only normal, but encouraged? No, I am not referring to astral sex cults and abuse, but to modern therapy. You can be a complete atheist and practice a kind of spirituality in your material life through art and the arts, creativity, a love for learning, and an openness to others rather than judgmental dismissiveness. What you are doing here is showing an unhealthy attitude towards others who are not adhering to your current paradigm, towards women, and towards sex, which is now reinforced through this: Acceptance, openness, understanding, humility, and patience are more helpful for you than anyone else. Forgiveness is most important too.

You would do well to realize that I am also an American, but currently live abroad and have cultural exposure to multiple contexts to see that it is not as black and white as you are making this to be.

Contrary to popular belief, he would be accepted, as would you. Those higher beings see all of us as kids whom they are watching and waiting for the moment that we all evolve collectively as a species. Those judgments about who is and who is not worthy of being accepted create artificial separation and false dichotomy that prevent us from ascending.

Don't invite them then. I can go into the Hustler store in Sunset boulevard in Los Angeles and have a nice quiet afternoon drinking a smoothie and reading a book amidst the smut and the giggling customers who come from the local colleges with the tourists. Every fifteen minutes, an announcement comes over the speakers: "Relax, everyone: it's just sex."

The problem with people seeking siddhis and enlightenment I find is that in trying to be Divine, they forget to be Human. Being Divine is great. Being Human is how the Christ and the Buddha inspired others. Without this grounding, there was no way to relate to them, and this elevation makes it difficult to see their teachings as merely guidelines to achieve divinity accessible to all.

An abridged retelling of an old Zen story: a master was found inside a brothel enjoying sake, and one of the students asked what the hell he was doing there. The master said, "If you think enlightenment is found only in drinking tea and in the monastery, look closely: you'll find it in the brothels and in sake too, just like you will find those trying to escape their problems through the teachings and hiding in the monastery while drinking tea."

Before I got into any Taoist practice and formal lineage training, my dad used to give me Osho books in the early 2000s, telling me I needed to have a better spiritual understanding. I devoured his books like crazy and shared them with my friends. Later on, reading about his history, it was hard to reconcile that he was the same person who was behind those biological attacks. Having the foundation I do now, re-reading his books, it is easy to see why two of my teachers can't stand him, why another friend refuses to stock his books in his store, and with my retrospective lens, I see 90% of what he writes as unoriginal, and the other 10% marketing language, all packaged as platitudes for people too lazy to really dissect his arguments or lack thereof. As for choosing siddhis over materialism, I'd argue that materialism is in of itself not bad, it's the attachment and obsession with abstract material value and branding, again, which comes from advertising culture.

For someone trying to be fair to him, the context was already explained as to why some of us were already on alert when he came in, especially when a former member, boerwoers came in with absolutely no humility and was met with reciprocity for his hostility to feedback for his own questions. Josh, however, is good humored, and that was demonstrated quite well and is part of why he is now a welcome member because of, not in spite of, his idiosyncrasies. I owned my original hazing and apologized already, and welcome him. I still stand by being on alert due to recent events too. The point you bring up, however, is still valid as is thelerner with how to deal with things, but I will have the final wording based on the spirit of the intention of what some people are asking, because their phrasing isn't quite clear for the purpose of tarot or Akashic. For discussion, it is good, but for direct questions, it needs more refinement.

It's just more excuses. That whole list is sadly a whole series of bullshit excuses. When I didn't score for three years, I didn't lash out at society or blame women--I looked in the mirror and decided I wanted to like me first, so it was co-created by me to be okay with who I am. At 36, I still run into girls fresh in college who ask if I can "hang out" sometime. Incels really need to get their act together.

And I can tell you that those are only current results—the data itself excludes other issues that the Asian Americans who were rejected exhibited, which is incel behavior often. It is not pure racism, I can say that emphatically. If I told you white women who didn’t like Asian men characterized them as being weak actually found them physically attractive and were waiting for the more jock type to show they were confident and had a personality, then it would explain a lot of missing variables. I never had issues dating women of other races. My friends didn’t either. What we have in common are strong personalities that don’t seem anything like a church boy or passive nerd or wannabe trying to act tough. The people I saw who never got laid, white or Asian, loved to overcompensate. ”Look at my car! My income! My shoes! I have material worth! My abs! I have a beach body! I have an MBA! Why am I not getting laid but that short guy with a dad bod is?!” Answer: the dad bod guy isn’t superficial and he’s interested in how women he dates feel, does fun things like archery and going to museums, reads books, doesn’t try to act smart or that people owe him. He gives himself freely and doesn’t mind rejection because he’s comfortable with himself.

I saw the studies for Asians before in university. Back then, we called them losers, not incels. Spend enough time around someone whining and hating white guys for being able to actually asking a girl out instead of seeking self-improvement is a good reason as to why not only were they not dating, they hardly had any friends. It got ugly when they joined Asian-only frats and then they only dated equally-repressed Asian sorority girls, often after getting them drunk enough... abhorrent. Everyone adds more victimhood into why they aren’t getting laid it seems.

Agreed. He just came in with either some very bad timing while we are already burned, or some very good timing when a little light humor and playfulness could help.

Flamboyant is a hell of a lot better than the façade of being a kind and wise teacher who just wants to give free hugs...but that Jeff thread is already done and Josh seems fun so far, given that he's handled the unofficial hazing pretty well.

Mid-week reminder! Please post your questions for me to ask Akashic about what you'd like to know about how we can self-govern without Sean and how we can be the best forum and community that we can be. Nungali will also do draws for tarot for the same questions, or at least the spirit of the same question. Anyone willing to volunteer their own methods like i-ching are welcome to join as well. Questions will be taken until Friday night. Saturday night is when I will ask and post results around Sunday.

Since he's quite busy, I'll say that what I've seen and recommend based on my own teaching of meditation is to sit more towards the front of the chair, but if you need back support because of weight or pain, it's okay, just not optimal.

Been practicing for ten years now. Have a few lineages to represent, and also do Vedic, Atlantean, Shinto, and Akashic stuff.

Sure thing, pal. I apologize for the ribbing earlier--didn't expect you to join the forum, but you're showing you're fairly open, so we can discuss some stuff.

While I still don't find Josh terribly impressive with what he claims, he's so far polite albeit flamboyant, and at least not pompous. Let me give you the rundown, son: we've had a huge transition the past couple years. We have dealt with a lot of scammers and people calling themselves masters who don't know what they're talking about, self-initiates who want to make up their own qigong who have zero understanding of TCM. We had forum members scammed out of thousands of dollars, we had the Western Mo Pai bros claiming to be part of the Mo Pai lineage because of two techniques they learned from a student who was kicked out of the school, we have Jeff who started out offering to scan people for free then pulling them into astral sex cults, and then we had the Alt-Right here posting conspiracy theories about pedophiles in a pizza parlor who were unfortunately also the admin and members of Jeff's cult before Sean, the owner, kicked them all out, so we are in a state of anarchy and catharsis as a lot of repression was here amongst the scams, except for the scams that the admin allowed. So if we're already in full cynic mode, please understand that this is why. And many of us are also pretty blunt about it because we are burned out by the people claiming to have the rainbow body, siddhis, and the self-initiates, the man-children trying to be Goku, and brats who want psychic techniques like Lightseeker who want to control and seduce others with free techniques while asking others to do the investigation for him.

If you want to have a serious conversation about the measures for power Taoists actually have, don't get too defensive or certain of yourself. So far, we don't see that. What we do see is that you have a particular view of Taoism and interpretation of TTC and Zhuangzi don't seem to preach themselves.

Eh, at least he isn't charging and scamming the way Elijah Wilson and Mak Jo Si did, insulting others who give feedback like BoorBores, or offering astral hugs and then going to astral sex like Jeff. Still not impressed as I don't see any internal power, but he seems fairly innocuous... so far, at least. EDIT: although showing off wealth is probably in poor taste.

I just said I did it in my head, but apparently that's not satisfactory to you. Thank you, drive through!

I just did, M’lord. And I’ve nothing more to say.