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Archaeology Institute of America April 2002 reports a bronze club in diamond shape with leather strap dated 4300BP, found near Samara on the Volga Russia. It is discussed in the article as being an origin for Indra's vajra. This suggests Iranian horse tribes or peoples associated with them.

OK so I need to ask , how Yarrowitch came up in your mind? Gamilaroi country is 20km west of Armidale so ask them who came down to take women. (They will probably deny it all, it was another mob from Dhungutti). Bundjalung say a boat arrived from Ngareenbil "overseas islands" and meaning "your beloved countryman" in Old Balinese language. The 3 brothers and grandmother with Old Bali names gave laws and language to countries. There would be pairs of words anywhere but are they meaning the same thing and used by people who can be shown to be linked? Macassan words in north Australia have the same meaning in the 2 populations, linked by fishing contacts.

( hairs rise on back of neck).. Yes Yarrowitch. 1 valley 50km east of Walcha, grew up there..... (blinks..back to topic..) That's Dhungutti , Nganyawana is Armidale. I'm neither Buddhist nor Murri so I post stuff to find any comments which may lead to further inquiry. The Waganna is in Wiradjuri which has the Ngurampaa elders' camp-site as the reference point for places in country. Murawari on the north also has Ngurampaa , and Euahlayi on the west at Bourke has Bida-Ngulu and "fire in forehead" like Chakra. ( All these are from Tibet but it was closely linked with Sumatra 1000 years ago.) "Budar budarum , bugal paigal " : Bundjalung. "Taurai tai kanga" : Gamilaroi.

Dharma travelled across mountains and deserts. It sailed to Indonesia . Did it reach east Australia and the rivers of the inland? Here is an outline: At the beginning, Sinhalese and Tamil culture evidently reached Bali Indonesia 2100 years ago, as seen in archaeology of ceramics there identified with south Indian examples. There were gold rings with Kharosthi script from Taxila Punjab. Sinhalese traditions of Indra and rain-maker kings who built water-reservoirs are seen in Angkor Wat and Bali. Hindu-Buddhist kings such as Kertajaya had ships which sailed to west Papua. Kertajaya "disappeared without trace". "Sri Maharaja Kertajaya was the last king of Kadiri Java who reigned circa 1194-1222. . At the end of his reign, he was defeated by Ken Arok of Tumapel or Singhasari , which marked the end of the kingdom of Kadiri . " (this next section is written by an Indonesian with limited English): ". Kertajaya names contained in Nagarakretagama (1365) authored hundreds of years after the time of Kadiri . The historical evidence is the existence of character with the discovery of inscriptions Kertajaya Galunggung (1194), the inscription Kamulan (1194), the inscription Palah (1197), and the inscription Wates Kulon (1205). . From inscriptions it is known the name of empowerment Kertajaya title is Sri Maharaja Sri Sarweswara Triwikramawatara Anindita Srenggalancana mighty Uttunggadewa. . In Pararaton Kertajaya called by the name of King Dandhang Gendis. . Narrated by the end of his reign he says it wants to be worshiped by priests of Hindu and Buddhist . Of course, the desire was rejected, although Dandhang Gendis show off magic by sitting on top of a spear standing. . . The pastors chose refuge in Ken Arok , subordinate Dandhang Gendis the akuwu in Tumapel . Gendis Dandhang absolutely no fear.. He claimed could only be defeated by Shiva . . Hearing this, Ken Arok was put on the title of Lord Master (another name for Shiva ) and move led troops attacked Kadiri . .. The war between Tumapel and Kadiri occurred near the village of Ganter in 1222. The commander Kadiri is Mahisa Walungan (sister Dandhang Gendis) and Gubar Baleman die at the hands of Ken Arok . . Dandhang Gendis himself escaped and hid rise to heaven. . Nagarakretagama also briefly tells the story of the Kertajaya defeat. . Mentioned that Kertajaya escape and hide in dewalaya (god's land ). . Both texts proclaim Kertajaya is a natural refuge of the gods. Presumably in question is Kertajaya hiding inside a temple cult, or maybe Kertajaya killed and becomes smooth natural inhabitants ( hereafter ) In later periods, Kediri economy grew to rely more heavily on trade, especially the spice trade. This resulted from Kediri development of a navy, giving them the opportunity to control the spice trade routes to eastern islands. " --------------------------- Ken Arok founder of Singasari Kingdom - Sejarah Negara www.sejarah-negara.com › History Oct 12, 2015 - Later on, he was adopted by a brahmana named Lohgawe. ... In the battle near Ganter, Ken Arok defeated Dandang Gendis and his ... It is stated in the book Pararaton that after Ken Arok was crowned as the king of Singasari, ... ------------------------------- Bundjalung people of Grafton-Brisbane remember that a boat arrived from Ngareenbil "overseas islands" and meaning "your beloved countryman" in Old Balinese language._ U Qld School of Languages. The 3 brothers gave laws and languages to the countries._ "Australian Dreaming " J Isaacs 1982 p 13,14. The river from Yamba where the boat arrived leads to Tenterfield from where creeks flow to the Darling river , the Murray river and Victoria. Green-stone axes from Melbourne were traded along the rivers to Bourke. Indonesian / Old Javanese nagarane gita means "country's song". Tamil nagarin gita. Patna City Anthem पटना नगर-गीत nagara gita (Skr nagasya gitam) William Barak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 1824 – 15 August 1903), was the last traditional ngurungaeta (elder) of the ... first inhabitants of present-day Melbourne, Australia. Murrundindi (aka Gary Hunter) is the ngurungaeta of the Wurundjeri people, a descendant of William Barak.

Thanks Nungali There certainly was the Dreaming , the ancient animism. As in Bali there seems to be a combination with dharma but the Buddhist element may be identified. How do you view the following quotes? : Wacana wacana.ui.ac.id/ Wacana is a Journal of the Humanities of Indonesia, published by Faculty of Humanities, University of Indonesia. Malay wacana "discourse" Old Java: wacana (Skt) speech, words; sound, voice; teaching. (m)awacana to speak, teach winacanākĕn to utter or address (words) wacanamaṅgala (Skt) auspicious (benedictory) words Skr. vacana n. injunction of a teacher वचन vacana advice .causing to recite xii. April-June 1835 Rev. W. Watson's Journal from Apl 1st to June 30th 1835 " .. to celebrate Waganna (a dance) to Baiami .. when Baiami gave the "Gudthi" (song) which they now chant to him, after the first celebration of the "Waganna" . He also commanded them to use small Twigs about 9 inches in length which they were to beat against each other in the "Waganna' ..These Twigs are named "Mudthir' from Mudthirra which signifies repeated beating or, thrashing. . The natives say Baiami is not to be lightly spoke of, nor his song taken in vain." --- song? gudthi < Skr *gud play? Old Java : guḍuh aguḍuhan making a confused noise, tumultuous, in an uproar The Second Dalai Lama: His Life and Teachings - Page 21 https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=155939949X Glenn H. Mullin ; ... Known as gatha, these traditional verses were not only attributed to the Buddha but also to many of his direct disciples. ... Much of the tantric literature attributed to the Buddha is also expressed in verse, known as vajra gita, or "diamond songs. Possibly mudthir < mudra Skr. mudraṇa n. the act of sealing up or closing or printing mudraṇīpattra n. a proof-sheet mudraya Nom. P. yati - , to seal, stamp, print, mark मुद्रा mudrA seal or any instrument used for sealing or stamping Old Java mudra (Skt mudrā) particular position of the fingers (with sacred function and meaning; with supernatural efficacy); seal, signet ring. mudrābandhana (Skt) the putting (intertwining) of the fingers in mudra-position mudrākāra (Skt) with the appearance of (represented as) making a mudra mudrārcana (Skt) worship with mudras mudrawidhi (Skt) prescribed performance of mudras Explanation of Buddhist Mudras www.buddhas-online.com/mudras.html This mudra is characteristic of Buddha Shakyamuni and Dhyani Buddha .... The hands hold the Vajra (=thunderbolt, male) and Ghanta (= bell, female). The right ... For taming all enemies, use the Vajra Pestle Mudra. The Mantra: "Om Vajra Zini Pra Nipadoye Svaha" .

Hullo I'm a new guy who is old and retired , taking information and asking questions, looking forward by seeing the ancient Dreaming of Australian Aboriginal people. Their time-frame is continual : the past and future exist now . This is not so strange when some faiths have prophecies which influence life now and their deities are ever-existent. So I googled phurba and mudra and like a flash of light in dark screens , the wise ones are speaking. There was a small-pox epidemic ( again ) when Europeans forced their terror gunpowder into tribal life and in 1835 there was a "wacanna" with "gudtha" and "mudthirra" in Australia to protect against the disease. (Speakers of Javanese language will know what I'm on about). It included using 9 inch twigs in the song-dance which were struck against the arms of others in the dance. More details will follow after this hurried introduction . After all , they died 2 centuries ago ......

Paper and ink are wonderful inventions and much of our past is lost because ancestors chose to memorise instead of write. Or wrote on tree-leaves or bark or painted on rock without leaving sub-titles. ("This is Ung hunting a hgexvtwk in summer 5468 BC"). I'm curious about ancient Australia and naturally came here. Speak to you all later.