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lol Yea, maybe a bit of old timer, and an aussie too. I'm typing in this cafe while it floods outside! I've joined your site. I don't have much staying power in OB and i still need to buy a recliner to stop falling alseep. Great to type to you personally!

kathyli, It's good idea to help spread tao with west! Even if it is a bit slow. I had a quick question about what you guys do: Do you or Wang Liping know any ancient history of chi in the West? Why its hard to find origins here, and mainly only in China? Would love to know true history. warm regards TF

The catholic church is a clear example that a lot of humans can't handle power. The kabbalists say that developed people have a "masach", which is like a shielding for self greed and instead is rooted in power to only bestowing/receiving for the creator. The restriction of self desire ends up changing our internal vessels; we become more god like. And so desires that existed before loose their strength and are replaced with higher needs. The constant catholic priest and kid problem is not just frustration i believe, but some of them believe in occult reasons for having little boys. Spirits are things which really need to be understood. They have caused more trouble then we know, and it is simply because we don't understand there ways. Mind you, there is a fine line between trying to understand and using them for purposes. TF

The guy could have helped us all open things up, but ended up going into greed and deception. A pity.

G'day Robert Bruce Some years ago when I was first starting work with energy I bought your books new astral projection and energy works, I also was part of your forum. I found your knowledge some of the best in OB, and I was able to use it practically and attain some OB. Keep up the work, we all got a part to play in trying to get this world working on real reality: that is we are more then just meat bags slaves. Warm Regards TF

Anyone ever get the urge to drink enough colloidal silver to turn their skin blue? lol Its very healthy... TF

Ever get the feeling that time is just passing by slowly, or flying? What is this? Is time really expanded or dilated in our perception in these instances? TF

Wanted to provide a space to discuss this and release some energy here. We hear a lot about certain groups, stories and people who have made some real progress in capability and identity of what they really are. They have demonstrated abilities and insights that are rare. Why don't we manifest a planet that releases this knowledge as it is our god given right to learn about what we are? Examples of supression: -In olden day China, energy practioners were often killed and so now there are so few left that have fled. -In the documentary of Ram Bomjan, a very high lama mentioned openly in front of the camera: "we generally don't share much." -The Vatican and its secret library (enough said). -Whistleblowers and documents from the military coming forth mentioning armies of troops trained in energy ability. -Helen Blavastky wrote in her book that from what she researched, after the Buddha passed away the top students formed an elite caste out of greed called the Brahmins and did not share the good stuff with others. Eventually the knowledge became almost extinct. Hence we are left with truly very little meditative knowledge. There is the argument that if we all had access to the knowledge, everyone would instantly want to kill each other (and other things), this is absurd. The elite groups have the power already to do this for centuries to us unawares. Let's have the power to make our own choice with this. They have repeatatively shown they don't care about its folk. TF SPREAD THE KNOWLEDGE

We probably can't be like in the comics, but I'm sure there are some who can take a few bullets unharmed. TF

Robert Bruce is one aussie who really knows his Obing. His stuff has helped me learn much. TF

Your right again mate! And your very lucky to go to asia for retreat! I loved going on retreats. I would return home crispy crittered. Vajrasattva and buddhism makes me feel a bit better. I don't think it will ever make perfect sense though because I am white skinned so I found some solace in authentic kabbalah a bit closer to white religion=judaism. Daoism of course, is phenomenal however. We can't live without it. lol, funny your pest solutions! I'm gonna start sounding like reikimama but damn flys and stuff are telepathic I often call them out of the house whistling, before my wife gets a chance to kill them. Oh, you probably noticed after a while of deep meditation the bugs leave you alone, they don't like the qi field like you said. Kind of puts them to sleep or something. Brisbane memories...I had an incident where I saw an entity?/alien? and it changed my life completely toward the direction im in now. I don't know what's the go with the skin tight black clothes?! OBing in brisbane is psycho, i used to get so frightened when it happened. Sometimes you see other people floating around at night and these beacon things. I also saw many ufos in brisbane with other witnesses. The F-11 would always come out and do its rounds straight after. Now I'm really sounding like a Reikimama!! I don't mind telling you my birth date but really not sure about here: can pm it to you if you like? Peace TF

Hey Gerald Your right. And yes it was brisbane i had the problems too. Brisbane is ghost and alien central crikeys. I placed some charms and opened everything up with huge volume music, it helped for a little while. TF

It's amazing how someone like the Buddha reached this state. Full enlightement as he knew is probably still not the end, but there is even more! TF

You are right about that too mate. I'm currently on the Sunshine Coast, where you at? Just another note of interest, partners can drain each others energy, till it reaches an equiblrium. You can see this if 1 partner is more youthful then another initially. Might be why some old people feel good having a young partner and extend there life. E.g Clint Eastwood, lol. Some crazy elites do this sort of thing also with sacrificing young virgins, very intense. TF

Strawdog, thanks for creating such an excellent well needed thread! We all really need to picture in detail what kind of world we really want to see, because the next few years are probably going to be tough and we need to root-in our manifestation. A quick transition to a more utopian new world order may be painful...I think what it really boils down to is our superhuman identity has to be let out of the bag finally. 1. If us folk become truly aware of what we are, what we are capable of, and what exactly happens when we die, and how to prepare for death, it would shape the values of all humans into a more sustainable future. This must be functionally demonstrated in the public domain. This is the crux that would shift our paradigm. Obiviously current resources in our current perception are not enough to solve our issue, with our new values and perceptions new resources will become percievable and created for us all. 2. Also the fact we are not alone in this universe, and we can learn from and be mentored by ancestors more mature then us- this would also speed our transition. (Some of the world governments have released some watered down documents on e.g. ufos including landings in the flesh but its very modest and slow release). If we can shape our need for these issues, we can avoid our current path of constantly augementing ourselves with pure technology and silicon, and exploiting the earth unsustainably. We can avoid the possible future product line like the- "Ichip" (internet/phone/mp3 chip and other things against our permission{tracking/control}) inserted into our skull or under the skin! Where mothers expect their children to take it, like a vacine. lol TF

Five, you have not read correctly what I said and have assumed things about me, which is annoying for me. I also find your writing tone very brash, rough and demanding. I also find you very insensitive, this makes me feel less compelled to point things out for you, or even trust you. Nevertheless, i already pointed out a suggestion as a start to fix this. Start with the prayer i mentioned before earlier, put it in your thoght and attitude. Secondly do your own research. If someone spoon feeds you all the evidence, you will be predisposed to knee jerk reactions. Also if i was to take the time to write a research paper of all the evidence that exists out there it would take a great deal of time; I would have no time to train plus it is plainly boring no? Besides, who said I should be the one to tell you exactly how we are to go about it. Everyone else out there, tell us some ideas on how to get this real power stuff more available? Quote: "This direction IS my life (and probably for many others here), and can be quite difficult having family needs, money needs etc." Please read carefully next time, if you read above there is no mention that there has been no opportunity for me to do the training, so why have you assumed? I was just sharing with you, so don't go all poppy cutting and feeling threatened- mentioning you are single at 45 and how I have made wrong choices, because my choices are fine and you have no right to write that way about me when I share with you sir. There are many chi masters who have had money issues and large families and it was not easy for them. Granted to Shaktimama opinion-this is the part you have to do everything yourself! You can go look at evidences in chinese history, european history, FOI documents- blackvault.com you can find many official government documents there as well as various government whistleblowers- just type in 'whistleblowers' and look up all the government projects examples "project ultra" and also "vatican secret library", "chi masters hunted down" etc. Apart from these small examples of mainstream information I have my own personal firsthand knowledge that I won't share with you yet, as plainly thinking it would cause regression rather then progression. In brief, it has compelled me to tell you my conclusive stance- that is the knowledge has delibrately been suppressed. But don't take my word for it, your so good at what you do, you can find other specific examples for yourself. You will find this paints a picture of a more grand impression so to speak. To Shaktimama, i probably would agree with people if they did mention those things about you, sorry. You might be right and I wrong however, you may truly be a great energy magus who can heal cancer, walk through walls and levitate etc. From my own humble experience and probably others, there is nothing elegant or simple about attaining real power. Often a lot of hard work and much pain both physically and mentally. Looking at other meditators around me, most people can't handle it for long in their modern lives whether they be single, family or anything. Sorry you two that's all from me on this thread! blessings to our world TF SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE

I have a tendency to always see 11. I heard it means you are in sync with your current life fate, but I'm not sure really. TF

Apparently we can, we just don't have the instructions to change the frequency of the whole body. It would take a hell of a lot of energy work, be easier to bulldoze. When I used to practice psi wheel in my younger days, I came across an article on a related psi site where a guy had a problem of waking up partly inside his bed. I think it happened to him twice, he described it as very painful and frightening. He called it phasing. TF

Gerard, You are absolutely right. I currently live in auz too mate, and I too lived in an old queens lander which was inhabited by a ghost. Other people saw it too. They are generally a pain in the a#$. In our mainstream information we know so little about them, let alone perceive them consistently. They have caused a lot of trouble here on earth since time memorial, and they should be understood and dealt with accordingly ie: Enter trash filter. lol. TF

I hope you are not mad at me fiveelementtao, forgive me if I have upset you. I have made progress in meditation and tradition, but there is so much work to be done on a massive scale...This direction IS my life (and probably for many others here), and can be quite difficult having family needs, money needs etc. At the end of the day, like many others, I just really care greatly about our lot here on Earth and it sometimes p%$$es me off seeing how things could change quite fast if some of these elite folks opened there hearts. I would like to be just another cog that can help bring this to humanity; and there is many others trying to do the same thing. I believe these days its not so much about reaching nirvana or enlightenment but bringing this to the public in functional form. That's all, then I will rest in peace. Without getting too specific on who, if you do some serious research- even with mainstream information you can see where "they" exist, even FOI documents. "Complaining", informing and discussing here, is exactly what the tao forum is for. Just as much as some naive people have the view that everything has been made available- I propose the view that it has been outright suppressed. To start, we really just need to subconsciously be aware and have the attitude that we are done with the way it has been handled, and request it to release. That's what a prayer really is. The internet is great to feed the energy in, to encourage change for us all on the special levels. All the best TF

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3bob, Mate, get used to the fact there is nothing "normal" about you, or people in general. We are awesome benevalent potentials that are extensions of our maker! We have just forgotten this and its only right for us to demand this freedom back! TF

Thanks taobums for really nice responses. I'm happy to see deep thoughts. There is no doubt that this problem we find ourselves in, is a deep and complex one. However this does not change the fact that it truly is a "problem" and one of the Earth's great problems. Whether we argue the standpoint that people are not ready, not virtuess enough- never ever enough etc to learn- does not change the fact that chi is necessary for our souls and bodies to continue living like it does. In other words, it's as natural for us like the air we breath, and god given. Now there is no debate that other people have suppressed this from the masses, -a natural function of our body-, I personally will not take it and don't expect anyone else to let them control our own functional existence by fabricating fears and "protecting" us from ourselves. The fact we argue many interesting points, is because we are "still" in absence of this possibility in our current reality. Hence, our predominantly materialistic lives that have pushed our world completely out of balance with hundreds of wars, famines, disasters, identity/religious crisis- with close to no (chi development whatsoever) has been heavily influneced by this suppression and has not worked. Just stop for a moment and think about it. If the world put more attention in raising its frequencies by enlarge our world decisions would be of a more mature quality? Not to mention releasing our different silly ideas in religions. Logically thinking, if this is a function of our bodies/souls, then at one stage we must have had it in our lives. These people who have taken it away from us, are likely the same folk who caused situations that made us fearful and surrendered this liberty. There is no differnece between this knowledge and all other freedoms we relinquished to these 'bastards' (plainly speaking). In modern times the Chinese are still doing "witch hunting" with Falun gong 1 example. You got others- Vatican Catholic church burning witches, Tibet genocide etc. At the sametime we got some departments in military who have exclusive use of this stuff, and they obviously soley push it towards useless things- like killing. So in conclusion, the snakes and ladders we do with logic about our current situation is futile when we look at the resultant fact of how and why we are the way we are today. People have got to use common sense, and not be so cowardly at every moment a paradigm is shifting. Finally, the debate about trying to learn abilities is wrong and you will burn in hell of shame is again 'dogma silly'. This can be as virtuess as someone wanting to put time into learning sport or maritial arts. But no! We have a problem with abilities because they happen to meditate, and a sports person doesn't meditate much at all? Yes, it is better to meditate with god in mind, but we got to realise we do futitle endeavours constantly in our lives- we aren't going to burn in karmic hell...We just express ourselves and try to draw close to the creator. All the best to you all TF SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE

Supernatural is what it is. The reason being is that we humans are supposed to be supernatural. it's also refered to this 'supernatural' because its rare to see these things because of the society we live in that doesn't encourage extensive human development, but has a generation-seasioned, programmed knee jerk reaction against this logical reasoning. Times are changing slowly however...People these days have huge desires, where some have "tried" some extreme pursuits such as doing surgery to every part of their body (cyborg) to more widepread swinging in a despearate attempt to fill the void (pun intended), but are still remaining frustrated with true identity. There will come a time where the focus is not to augument ourselves with technology and probably soon the chip(with built in internet/phone etc)- but we got it all inside. There's another problem with the non-conducive society and that their is also the out-right supression. Supression exists primarily in our religions across the sprecturm christian to buddhist etc. i have some time to type on the forum, and i hope i spread the desire energy by typing. I'll contue this thread elsewhere. As for animals, don't worry about them they got their own problems, one: being us who are out of balance.

I agree with your view. And these days I wonder that the atmosphere: that you should be ashamed to seek abilities which are god given to you, is not like a religion tactic of being shameful of the self?