misterziegler

Yeah im seeing that eating often causes me tiredness and or fatigue. after fasting i have regained control of my appetite and can control my portions. Deviating, i will eat larger portions and more often, sometimes 8-9 times a day, and as a crutch, and it becomes gluttonous, before i know it i am back to feeling fatigued and out of energy, for my body is now spending much of its energy on digestion. I am highly active and only weigh 130 lbs, and so i can do it very easily if i wish. however after a 36 hour fast ive learned what wonders it holds in store for me. It basically lifts this invisible vail to the doors back into my alert mind, and peaceful mental space. the feeling i get from eating sometimes though, It has a lot to do with the food choice i have, i eat probably 1/4 organic, 1/4 non organic produce, and the rest is breads/ canned stuff because i am piss broke at the moment climbing out of a financial hole i put myself in during my drug abuse days. I am glad to say i am climbing out of it now and will soon have the $ i need to eat right again. And before too long maybe a year i plan to stop being a wage slave altogether, its a necessity at the moment or else ill lose my means of survival and abode. As for as managing my sexual energy, since joining dao bums and reading an old post, then creating this new thread on transmutation of sexual or creative energy, i have learned to handle and control it for two weeks at a time before giving in. Ive learned several forms of meditation ive been practicing for months now, and it all helps. My self discipline is progressing at a rate that is desireable to me now and i give myself the occasionaly break and thankyou. As all things natural, change is gradual. And going from everyday down to once every 2 weeks is sure sign of progress. I am still 24 yet and its quite like a surge of water bursting from the bare earth when i really wander into that sexual realm, and suddenly everything changes and theres no going back. its what you do with it that counts. i plan to paint, to draw, to write with it. ive already let it just course through myself, and meditated on it, and it puts a different dynamic on the meditational journey altogether.

Arramu, this makes good sense to me. Of course, the body is going to produce its own food, tapping into stowed away supply in the most precious ways in the absence of food. Sort of also a reward for the discipline of fasting also. The weirdest secrets are waiting to be unlocked.. I am glad i began this thread back in may. Thanks Arramu. I am going to begin my own fasting journey at this very moment and see what fasting can be for me personally. I've stayed up, without the help of caffiene or drugs for 48 hours plus before (7 years ago) (however i was eating off and on during this time, just very little, as eating would make me sleepy) and i recall having waking dreams , and also my brain was producing solutions to "problems" without my barely trying. i was enlightened in that time, and it was a spiritual experience really. not that i acheived the answer to some great mystery, but i may as well have. it was simply a beautiful experience. your thoughts on staying up during a fast? also, when fasting, do you limit your physical activity?

Question about fasting with the body, what does that essentially do? i fasted for 16 hours a few weeks back and i reached some states of mind i havent been in for a while and it was nice.

Thank you for your knowledge all, and thanks most to Aetherous. Your response has evoked new hope within me, now i am aiming to cultivate myself on my own. Yes many factors involved in our downward spiral and the sex among lots of recreational partying was... distracting us from our problems we weren't facing. In a nut shell I've faced all those problems, including the porn addiction. I have read others' views and experiences briefly with tantric sex and a few other words on sacred forms of intimacy. And sex is something I am willing to try at those levels with somebody very special one day. However I do know ultimate celibacy is something I will achieve in my lifetime. I feel very on the surface of my own mind and capabilities all the time. Something keeps me from diving in. Sometimes I feel like it isnt me. I do break through into deep focus and meditation and states of very receptive mind now and then, but not nearly as often as i'd like. Maybe 1-2 days a week i can acheive this. A little off topic here. An empath who has known me for many years has come to stay here and she says the presence she felt some time when she stayed before is still here and it follows me. I see my dog looking at my back sometimes, over my shoulder behind me at the air. And so does my friend as i walk from room to room, she sees the dog watching the air as well. When i am reading or doing something quietly, something trips my bird motion sensor, as if knowing i will hear it because i am doing a silent activity at the moment. My cats always visit me and sleep by me and like to be in the same room as me. And when they are around it feels like something bad has suddenly gone, however i didnt notice the air was even heavy until the cats came and the air became light . I used to deny the possibility of a presence in my mind and forget about it, distracting myself same as with overcoming porn and masturbation.. however certain things pop out at me, not from my own mind, to remind me of said possibility. I can no longer deny it, i used to believe if i acknowledged it then i was manifesting it on my own. This is not the case. I awoke one day in mid afternoon, my curtains were holding out the sunlight, and to the right of my door was a cloud of black smoke, barely swirling. I am 24 and have never seen such a thing. I am not a drug user nor do i partake in alcohol use, i odnt even smoke. I felt nothing when i saw it, and layed back down and shut my eyes, i knew something was there and i didnt feel like it wanted to hurt me. I lay and meditated light from within the bottom of my stomach growing larger and brighter. Breeding good feelings. And I opened my eyes and it was gone of course. After this i know that there is a presence here. My empath friend slept over 2-3 years ago and she astroprojects a lot. She said as she was on her way out the window she saw a similar figure watching from next to a tree outside. Now its in my house. I burnt sage one day and marked x's on every doorway and window, barring entities from entering or exiting, leaving my doors open for them to exit, clapping loudly and exclaiming in positive tones that this was my castle and "it" was not welcome here. This is the only thing i realy have done in combattance. My house felt much better for a month after this. However this was BEFORE i awoke to the presence 5 feet from my bed not too long ago. Maybe 10 weeks now? Any thoughts?

What are some ways others here, transform their sexual energy or transmute it, as in using it for something more. I used to have sex 2-3 times a day with my partner. This went on too long. It ruined our relationship, it became a grimy feeling addiction which i began to fill with porn while at work as well. I was having 4-5 orgasms a day. All loveless, even the ones with my partner save for a few. 2-3 years later i am alone. I can keep from the urge for about 2 weeks now. Every 2 weeks i have been purging the urge so to say. What are some tips and tricks to A) During the time leading up to before i even have the urge, what are some practices others may do that diverts this energy elswhere? Art, Talking to a friend, a journal entry perhaps? I commonly write about other things that come to mind or the urge itself During time of said urge itself, what are some "emergency" diversion or rather, transmuting techniques to better use the energy elswhere and C) Should i just be okay with spending that energy every week or two weeks in the "natural" way? This is something i have more or less decided to be okay with accepting lately, which helps because i used to be self ashamed every time. So i am at least this far. Now i want to explore intelligent ways to transmute my sexual energy to creativity other than sexual acts and want to hear about anyone else's experience with this., I DO notice a huge difference in my mental acuity and daily energy improvements since i have gone from so many orgasms per day down to one or two per two weeks.

So far my experience this past two weeks, my sexual drives and feelings have been much more prominent and awake practicing QiGong . I just began a basic moving qi gong two weeks ago and my sexual desires been sort of so in my face and I chose to give in to it. However I am glad I did because I finally quit being ashamed of when I did so. Now exercising this standing still QiGong as of a few days ago , taught in the book "way of energy", it is practicing teachings of studies on trees, the naturality of them and the life they live, and how it can be learned from. I am exercising much more mental discipline. It generally works on mind, body, spirit collectively. Anyways I'm not essentially "silencing" or ignoring my sexual urges, as i first thought i should, I just have the discipline to acknowledge them and let them play out as pure emotion, without acting on them. It can be quite intense, when they come, just letting them pass and moving on with your day. Roller coaster of sorts. But it's so different and a pleasant new frontier. It carries with it a hint of fun challenge. I've chalked it up as a positive milestone in my journey . I plan to keep that sexual side of my energy sacred and channel it further along whenever the time is right.

Yeah. Things happen in steps. I am more fond of the approach of beginning at ground zero. I havent begun to learn any teachings at all until recently. I have to keep reminding myself that it (channeling of sexual energy) will happen sort of on its own as i progress in my practices. I started with Qi Gong last week. And thanks for sharing, i'm seeing more and more that the utmost respect for these practices would be well to have for myself going forward.

I do not have anything to contribute in the way of experience. I would like to see someone pick up in your discussion in that way though. Would you mind sharing other sexual tao exercises you've tried and examined? You're brief experience and thoughts would be appreciated. I am in pursuit of something I can learn and keep as a tool to channel my sexual energy elsewhere, for higher thinking, also taming my sexual desire in the moment it suddenly arrives in the process. I have not developed any effective measures yet. I may skip the step of foundational practice (for sake of my pursuit) and look into the exercise "testical breathing" you mentioned above. Maybe I can sort of work backwards from there.

Thanks for that, OldChi. I made an order of this paperback. I do appreciate a point in the direction of a place to just begin. So very ready to approach this. It's been a long time I've seen this place I have been walking toward. And I'm finally here.

So I came across this discussion from 2011 in a google search http://thedaobums.com/topic/18260-transmutation-of-sexual-energy/?p=256160 A bit about me first. I am young and in my mid 20's. About 6 months ago I walked down a path in my road I knew I had to one day, which lead me back to sobriety after a 9 year gap where my life was void of love, in me, around me. I began eating of the earth, exercising, I left myself no crutches, no medication from doctors, no therapy, i put myself in a corner where I was trapped naked and without any cigarettes or cans of beer or cocaine to distract me from facing myself. I got through it alone. Everyone with addictions whether to substances or just only believing in or carrying with them a negative environment by habit, has to in a sense and to a large degree go through it alone and face themself and say hey, this is where I'm at, and Im done. Leaning on others for support got me nowhere. I will say that I might not have gotten so far without my partner's kind words always telling me I didnt have to live how i was living. I was weak though and My personality was built paper-thin with the idea in my head that i could always turn to someone for support. I had to realize that i could turn to me, and for that to happen I had to isolate myself from every single person i knew. I disabled my facebook and shut off my phone. I have been SO HAPPY. I lost my dear friend and partner over my alcoholism, hatred from "friends" bringing me down, I dealt also with self hatred, self pity. A conglomeration of negative things seperated us, I have since left negativity in the past. I take all bad things i remember, and I see the good they brought, the things I learned. Such valuable knowledge. I wouldnt change anything. I'm getting back to digital and physical arts. I love the arts. Filming, painting, drawing, sculpting, stop motion animation, folding origami, doing home projects, creating with my hands. I keep a dream journal, I used to practice lucid dreaming when I was 17, I'm coming back to that as well. I have returned to the few good friends i left behind. I thoroughly enjoy my time alone and am looking to spend it in the way of fulfilling my passion. Which in general is a thirst for more. For culture. For grasping the world. I have been reading books. I love to read read read. Before I type 3 pages i'll move on. I actually did type 3 pages, going in depth. But for sake of introduction I'll omit them today. I spoke with a friend's father 5 years ago about practice of QiGong. It stuck with me ever since. Last week I decided to begin learning about it. I want to practice it. I have my own history with meditation but it is a scattered one. I am searching for pointers on the following Grounding myself to help with indecisiveness Good literature & guidance (ASAP) on Sexual transmutation (as of now ive just been building up my Qi and after a few days I begin getting so crazy inside, so horny, its unbelievable. I have to know a better way to direct it than just flushing it away. I want to keep it. I want not to tap into my Jing reserve. I must retain it, and circulate it. What do I DO? I am on the brink of letting my creative genius flow full force, however I've been misdirecting myself) Literature or some solid, core guidance to supplement myself going into my new practice, QiGong. The link i shared in the beginning of post, a person by name of "Fizix" here posted a reply it is the second reply, and the link will bring you straight to his spot on the page.. in his reply he shares a link to a 3 hour long lecture on sexual transmutation. Wish that link wasn't broken now, will be seeking out this lecture. if anyone knows of this lecture or others please share. From the single thread I read I can tell the people here, are here to discuss things and give their insights seriously, and i didnt see anyone being flamed like some communities I've visited. That's what made me actually register an account here. Ill be skimming threads. You'll see me around.