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BUddhism has 5 as well : https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Five_kayas https://www.dharma-friends.org.il/wp-content/uploads/The-Kayas-Bodies-of-a-Buddha.pdf

I don't really understand this thread....you don't want thought-forms? Or ability to control them Regardless of which place (=depth) in the subconsciouss to consciouss spectrum of consciousness they Arise From? Than you want Wei Wu Wei, basically; which requires a good functional well developed atman/Adam Kadmon and his energy/chi called Yechidah or pure awareness in hinduism. I've dealt with a similar issue ..

I don't know why people bother differentiating so much about the postheaven sanbao, when its all the same. An old bastard drains your chi, your chi and shen will go down. You also posted this in Daoist discussion. Postnatal energy is more about TCM than Lao Tzes et all DAOism. Body vs Spirit /psyche. As for the first point, 1), I think what Hindus call 7 Dhatu is also a form of energy. Whereby the bones are the physical body. And the flesh is dense energy as post sanbao is 'subtle' energy. You circulate the 7 tissues by working out, etc. just as you do with energy. An astral entity doesnt need to workout its astral body but surely needs to somehow circulate its energy which is also somewhat equivalent to keeping the mind [=perception IMO] active and sharp trained/reflexed. Some alchemists / lower immortals obtain great longevity with special herbs and potions. Not with sanbao. So <- here<- we can pretty much see that the subtle merely influences the dense. Sort of like merely 'communicates' with it. - You also have to remember where you hear ANY rumours [....what is the difference between 'knowledge', 'wisdom' and 'rumour' ? all must be verified by You anyway]. "traditional Qiqong' well this properly refers to specific sample of the martial arts community from modern times. This sample has really poor cultivation over all. They also spread false rumours like preheaven cannot be cultivated or increased yet its always decreasing....which mathematically is ... *cute*

What is the difference between deities and ....entities, or...anything that moves

To make his own mantra the yogi should be self-realised in the real world so he can see everything.

The idea I got, is the blue energy is Not chi, but something else which acts like a radiance that the body constantly produces. LIke the light of a bulb, than it's temperature (chi) which ones given away is thus gone away. Am I wrong?

Is it normal if I feel charged open being exposed to some peoples words here online? Especially you SIfu. I have not practiced FP just read this around thread. I can also sense like a blue almost cyan at times, or with tiny cyan dots, energy emanating from you lot, especially Sifu.

Is it normal if I feel charged open being exposed to Sifus words here online? I forgot his name, the master of the school. I can also sense like a blue almost cyan at times, or with tiny cyan dots, energy emanating from you lot, especially sifu.

I have directly observed, it circulates prejing as well.

Instead of seeking x you should seek to understand what it is. then you focus on growing/perfecting all that is because you know it all. ulitmately cultivation will culminate at that....unless you fail Think think and think some more. Any question you cannot answer/explain? Then theres a layer of reality you don't get. EVERYTHING is explainable, so seek to explain. Then you recognise some things are still complicated held secret but won't lead to much. But to see below you must look from above So when you've reached the dao and such you will know however long that takes and yes you are all, otherwise you wouldnt know all

The 3 dan tiens are made of chi. So that is a hou tian thing.

Preheaven is still bodily. There is a 3rd level after yuan shen. The real you. I didn't mean to offend with that example, I didn't realise :). I'm saying prejing is much like normal chi. Bodily activity circulates it. It is an elixir. Whereas yuan shen is not so much affected but it gets stuck in it. The one above if youre rooted you could be tortured and not be deranged by the pain. That is like preshen transmits and receives data form one point. Whereas the frams of info in the real mind, above it, can transmit and receive from any position thus braking free of impediments/limitations. But yuan shen is like its reflection in the mirror. It has impediments...or rather impediments of the highest degree. Yes, changing mode of thinking is huge, gut bacteria big too, has to do with it because they are individuals. Its like why did tao create universe. This is hardcore

The first is simly not smart, imperfect creation. But it's strength is a matter of concentration/chi circulation. The second I disagree. The layer above it is the commander...or king, to quote sutras. If punch you and you bleed, pre-jing circulates so the dust of this world sticks to it.

Is this picture biased by any chance? The information presented is very one pointed in appereance, even thought eating the whole animal fully gives you what you need whereas plants alone kind of make you bold...if you catch my saying. Trying to honestly weight points here. ... Not to mention gut bacteria, the number 1 regarding most things, IMO

but not a source, underlining a higher principle at play

Vital Not Fundamental - unborn/outside spacetime ... You are incarnate not in your breath...

Why not build energy to feel energy? I build various energies in my practice and that seems to be the mechanics <-. If you want a work out why not horse stance I heard Master Jiangs lineage used to horse stance for 1 hour or longer. Even on one foot to make it harder. Now that's a workout. Not quite sure what you by relaxed state you see :D. If you want to train stillness control sit in the chair and don't move. ZZ position is too advanced to train body control in/depth-through-relaxation.

What kind of benefits?

The middle path is spirit

The will is formless :troll-face: or rather beyond form. Its more like an idea. Or not even that. I'm (EDIT) Not studied enough on this

Reminds me Crowley had a nice explanation once approximately about how if you manage to unite with nature/what-is then your will is that of God as it's capable of the same, so you are God.

Who's ruined your morning? What is wrong with those ?

with the grounding help of this world, emancipate/grow outside the matrix, then eventually you dissolve and leave only there, fully there. quit the mmorpg once you have a life....ahem, once you are life. However...forget the 2nd part. obsession with 'suicide' or higher degrees of it is an obsession. Similar process is inside the domains of the matrix like build post- Lower dan tien and live in the astrals forever...until you recycle in the matrix. I was reading some old e-library and this guy in the last few decades in the west, started up a cult, build a tulpa for it. ritual killed himself to merge into the tulpa in the astral and live there after. NUTS! ALL KINDS OF NUTS! Supernatural powers of all kinds on the way . So..hence all the talk about illusionary and impermanent. Astral and light realms don't last. With this comes progress of self too. And essentially someone whos done some real work inside will also be some sort of star trek character ... healthy/capable mentally beyond average standards. I don't know how they give at least 70 IQ points or 100 to most people as most processes they 'spend' are so simple...You can gauge your progress on each plane by yourself. Because you are always in a Samadhi which requires energy to sustain/be alive. Hence I have a saying Progress is EnergyTM . The spirit self is the body imo.

It can be done in all spaces hahaha