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If we had 100+ members who could stand toe to toe with this nonsense, then I think we could turn the tide. We don't so we can't. Maybe one day though, we can dream right?

We have some high post members here that get along fine so long as MoPai is never discussed, once that line is crossed then their presence here would be an issue.

Dating site no, searching for brothers yes.

If you say so Brian. There are high post "lurkers" here that have been here for 5+ years, but are just smart enough not to open their mouth. So long as they remain silent they have nothing to fear. I think our group all agrees your group's behavior is beyond ridiculous. We had a person claiming to be an Indonesian student join, only to find he was using an Indonesian proxy, and was in the USA. We have no idea who these people claiming to be Indonesians really are, but they sure do know words recently coined on American TV well Best wishes.

Ah, sounds good then. Best wishes.

I could return this hatred and anger you direct, but I won't. Best wishes doing whatever it is you do.

Thanks to you as well.

The problem is that was tried and failed, and will not be repeated. This is as good as it's going to get unfortunately. Best wishes.

I think you misunderstand, we can speak in public, but this happens so we are very limited. For whatever reason talking about the way we see the world, what seems reasonable and rational to us, is like going to a fish tank and dumping in 10kg of pure sodium metal. We just have to deal with and contain it as best we can, or keep our mouths shut.

The few members of our forum that have an account here have to keep their mouths shut, or they will wind up like me. They just have to grin and bear it, as do I. There are others like us who want to connect with us. I wish you could realize how incredibly alone it is Luke to have this vast Internet but be unable to speak freely and openly about who you are and what you are about without this sort of nonsense happening, in any community. We had to create a private forum just so we could breathe. It's beyond frustrating, it's maddening, and how do you find others like yourself if you can never speak about what you believe and how you think in public? You can't.

Ah, well you did a good job of timing then. Best wishes.

I agree, it's amazing, but really in this instance it's more like a Piñata than a super hero I think the community needs their scape goat, something to tie up and beat like a dog, and I guess we fit that bill quite well. I am glad at least that our pain is your pleasure.

Unfortunately Kar3n, I won't argue with you further, and I will not allow you to troll a locked PPD thread, it was locked for a reason. I wish you the best, but perhaps your anger would be better directed at something else. Best wishes.

If you say so Kar3n, I am not going to argue with you. Best wishes.

No thanks Brian, we are done here Best wishes.

I'm sure. Hope things work with your practice work out well for you. Best wishes.

I'm sure, still not interested in further discussion with you. Thanks though. Best wishes.

I like this version better, thank you for editing out the offensive wording. There really is no reason for all this anger and hatred being direct at our group. Best Wishes.

You can ask about it again Brian, but the answer will be the same. I am not going to play your game, you'll have to find someone else. Also bringing in locked PPD discussions into other threads is exactly why I'm not going to share personal experiences here. Brian I wish you the best man, but I am not interested in having a discussion with you.

I am glad you found whatever it is you found and like it

I am glad you found Long Men Pai and like it.

StarJumper, I am not doubting that yes some person living in their parents basement, working a minimum wage job, and selling Ultimate Qigong DVDs might actually have unlocked the secrets of the universe. I am open to that possibility, I fully understand that by refusing to listen to that teacher I could be missing out the biggest thing since sliced bread. But this is how I think, and others in the group think. We need objective (such as video) evidence for something, and need there to be scientists and medical doctors present to rule out fraud. If we can obtain that we will pursue it, and if we can't we won't. From your perspective we are close minded fundamentalists, but from our perspective we are doing our due diligence, being reasonable, and rational individuals. I truly regret that our mindset or epistemology upsets you so much. The only thing I can think is that if you don't like what we offer, find something you do like like better. Best wishes.

If you will read the paper they refer to "high-amplitude voltage surges" quite often, but never amperage. I made a typo because their use of the word amplitude, but no mention of amperage was on my mind while typing. It has been revised to: "So some questions I see mention of voltage and amplitude but not of amperage" Thanks for pointing that out it has been corrected.

http://www.consciousnessandbiofeedback.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Anomalous-Electrostatic-Phenomena-in-Exceptional-Subjects.pdf " INTRODUCTION The meditation literature of the last century includes a curious reference to electrical isolation of student monks from ground while they sit in front of a copper wall and beneath a bar magnet. Specifically, a letter from a meditation teacher to A. P. Sinnett, editor of The Pioneer, the best known English-language newspaper of India in 1882, said: The methods used for developing lucidity in our chelas [student monks in Tibet] may be easily used by you. Every temple has a dark room, the north wall of which is entirely covered with a sheet of mixed metal, chiefly copper, very highly polished, with a surface capable of reflecting in it things, as well as a mirror. The chela sits on an insulated stool, a three-legged bench placed in a flat-bottomed vessel of thick glass. . .. A magnet with the North Pole up is suspended over the crown of the chela's head without touching it. [The chela is left] alone gazing on the wall. ... I "

So some questions I see mention of voltage and amplitude but not of amperage, I assume Kohen is subject number 11, but can't find any reference to that on his website or anywhere else. Don't get me wrong I really appreciate this, and I think it's really awesome. Thanks again for posting.