Jim D.

Karl, do you have citizenship here in the U.S. It sounds as though you do?

For some yet to be discovered reason, I think that mediation produces a chemical signal that may fit the synapses in the Amygdala and thereby blocks the trasmission of negaitive impulses to be perceived by the CNS. An example of this would be Methadone used first to block pain, now used to block cravings for Heroin. Novocain blocks nerves from sending signals of pain to the CNS. As the Novocain wears off, and the dentist is still drilling, pain sensation comes back little by little. That is how it is that a person has to be careful not to bite the inside of their cheek. There is no sensation of pain. So Brian, are you saying that I will be less angry if I meditate? I would agree with you. I think block is probably too strong a word. Endorphins and Enkephalins would not be strong enough to block Nnorepinephrine and Adrinaline involved in the fight or response reaction.

Joeblast, thanks for your honesty. I respect your talking to me like a man. And I respect and appreciate your persoanl disclosure. My second wife took me through Bankruptcy because she was a compulsive spender. In the end, I lost two homes, two dogs, two cars, one unpaid joint student loan, and she skipped out. Couldn't find her even with a Personal Investigor, and insider information from the Captain of the Sheriff's Police Department. I only know what I have been taught at the Master's Level of which I took my degree in 1992. I have not kept up with the monographs since then. So, my information is 24 years old. But I understand that THC potentcy has increased. But here is what I know: There are 400 identified Cannabinoids in Marijuana. Other constituents of the cannabis plant are: nitrogenous compounds (27 known), amino acids (18), proteins (3), glycoproteins (6), enzymes (2), sugars and related compounds (34), hydrocarbons (50), simple alcohols (7), aldehydes (13), ketones (13), simple acids (21), fatty acids (22), simple esters (12), lactones (1), steroids (11), terpenes (120), non-cannabinoid phenols (25), flavonoids (21), vitamins (1) [Vitamin A], pigments (2), and elements (9). There is something about bringing a flame to the above that creats the additional 1600 unidentifiable chemicals. This is the most scary part of the equation...unidentifiable. So, I apologize for the assumption that they were additives. Additionally, it is a matter of research that THC is fat soluable, is stored in the body for long periods of time, is mood altering, and mind altering, affects the lungs and other body systems and organs. In sumary, nothing much has changed accept the potentcy of Marijuana. So, we can agree to disagree. O.K. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Getting back to politics, Trump seems to be loosing it. He is short on impluse control. What concerns me is if Trump is fried by his party, who will step up to replace him? And if the legal system of our government does follow through with arresting Hillary, what happens next. It is possible that we may go through another year of Obama, and another year of a new Presidential Candidates race.

Thanks for catching me up. I got lost.

I have know for years that meditation if done routinely will block anger. Brianl, the website you provided seem to support my hypothesis. The meditation I was referring to was a seated meditation, and guided.

Notice: If you find that my acknowledging that your defense is confounded by your personal defenses, then tell me how it hasn't. I can make comments only based on what you disclose personally. This is my Post. I started it with the Title Hillary and Trump. But now we are talking about Pot. I did not ask for this diversion. But it happened anyway. But when you disclose a personal oppinon about Substance Abuse Counselors and my convoluting the data to suit my argument, and you cite a divorce and a X, you have made it personal regarding me...and you. So, if those are the rules, don't whin to the moderator about hurt feelings. O.K. keep your personal life, and personal opinions out of it, and I will leave you out of it. But if you did not complain to the Moderator Ms. Karn, than my comments and your comments are her issue which confounds her ability to be objective, in my opinion. O.K. gentlemen let's get back on track.

I forgot why I asked the question Marbelhead. Maybe I would have said Hell no too. What am I responding to?

Joeblast, I speak as a professional and past abuser of Marijuana. Pharmacology was my strongest interest at the Master's level because there no gray areas to argue. Research and experimentation can be argued with additional trials, yes. But the fact still remains the same, THC is a mood/mind altering chemical. The additional substances are unidentifiable. It is something the grower and/or the distributor adds to it. So to those that think it is really cool to get high on a blunt, let's talk about it 40 years from now when you are dying from COPD. I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home. You have a right to your body, mind, and soul and what you want to do to it and with it. But if you are a service provider, health provider, a person that works on machinery, or drives a car, or has any contact with another person you are working for, it won't be me. I won't put my life in your hands. I have a carpenter doing some work around the house. He came to work looking dragged out. I asked him what was the problem. He told me that he was messing around with his Rx Adderall...meaning adusting his script down against medical advise (AMA). He said that he had smoked Marijuana the night before is coming to work for me. I confronted this issue immediately. I responded that I was now questioning his ability to be reasonable and objective. At first he thought I was kidding, but soon figured out I was serious about my concern. I said, look this is not personal its business. He was so messed up he took the rest of the day off. I am to pay him $2,000 at the completion of the project. If he comes back again high, he's gone. He has completed enough for someone else to come in an complete it. I had a new client come to my session under the influence of illicit Xanax. He nodded out. I confronted him by asking him if he was tired or under the influence of something. He admited it and asked if it was going to hurt our relationship. I said no, but that I wanted him to be alert at our next appointment. He did not return. So yes Joeblast, I have been there and done that. I hold a Masters in Health Science with a track in Substance Abuse(1992) which is my specialty. I am also a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor in private practice since 2000 but in the field of mental health since 1990. I am on 9 Managed Care Panels, and I am published. And yes, in History and Systems class we discussed how it is that certain controled substances get to be FDA approved while others don't. We also discussed how it is that the United Kingdom as a socialized view of controling the distribution of Heroin, and how it reduced the persence of crime because of availablity. But distribution of Herion is still controled by the government. Maybe your history of divorce and seperation from your x was a matter of Substance Abuse Joeblast. You sound like you have a resentment for both parties which will confound your view of Substance Abuse facts and data.

If the Government and Lobbyist for Nicotine can make money off the sale and taxation of Marijuana, then it will eventually legalized. That does not take the facts out of the equation that Cannabis is a mood/mind altering substance that has addictive and hullucinogenic properties, carcinogenic substances added, and 1600 unidentifiable substances when lite (Governor State University, Dr. Blevins 1992)

I don't know, would you?

Oh! My! God! This guy looks like a bad Pee-We Herman. Nungali, your brother on "So, you think you've got talent"?

She likes to tell time. Look at how many watches she is wearing. My first thought...dope fiend.

I agree with Karl. Ralis, I disagree with you because you make statements I believe for attention...but fail to provide evidence that supports your statements. You do not seem to be trustworthy as is evidenced by personal comments you have made about me. You seem to be a loose canon. You can continue commenting on my Post if, you support you comments with verifiable data. Moreover, Karl is an accomplished professional who deserves your debating with him as a professional.

Sooooooooo! What are you waiting for! More begging! O.K. Please, please, pretty please stay with us. How's that? Doesn't make it any better does it? You are just not ready to go, are you. I was at one time in an all female support group. Two of the senior members harrassed me. I told them I will leave when I choose to leave. You are not going to run me off. So, I stayed until I was ready to go. That was about two months later.

Nungali, is that a picture of you on the wall. The guy with the Mohaw! That's you....that's you. Right? Is the girl an X?

All right all ready!!!!! Ban the this account. It's driving me crazy not to know where the buss let's me off.

I don't know zerostao, is my response a figment of your immagination. Hello, is there anybody in there? I conduct group therapy with myself as I ride along the rode going from A to B. Check out the end of the movie Multiplicity and you will have a very good idea about my internal life.

This is for sagebrush: I was referring to Tao Te Ching. I don't like letters. They can mislead people. This is for Karl: Bravo, Stellar answer. I got a real glimpse of you. Very confident response. Grounded.

Excellent list of things to do that won't cost you anything. Now lets get started...now lets get into action. I happy that you did something about the tax problem. My tax person does our taxes which include joint taxes and my business for $175.00 a year. I make it easy for her because I have created a business spread sheat on Open Office by Apache which is free. I add up my expense rows for each line item, print it and take it to her, along with my W-9 from the Insurance Panels I belong to, and my wife's W-2's. Jackie our Account, just plugs in the numbers into her Illinois Tax Program. Having a home office is a real advantage in that my expenses out run my income, so we have been getting back a significant return for the last two years. I have an Intuitive feeling about how much to earn and how much to spend. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now me. I am 70 years old and have struggle with this idea of a Higher Power. Organized religion has been a waste of time for me, and unhealthy. But what I am concluding is this: No matter what we call what is, man has been driven to believe in something, even if it is in nothing inorder to avoid the existential truth that there is no after life. I don't think that man has the ability to face this truth in a disciplined manner. It would be too much to carry especailly after looking at the time they wasted on nothing. But what if me or you decide to quit naming what cannot be named as it is recommended in the TTC. Then what.

Finally, an adm. answer. We might be getting somewhere. Looks like we are heading back to the question, "how can I delet my account."

The guy with the gun is more believeable to me. That is probably you after a comment you made...a lot of remorse looking back on the advise you've given. No body believes in you Nungali! So go ahead and end it all... Now where is the real picture of you???? You can't fool me!

Well Nungali, go fetch that picture and get it on the DoaBums!

So, Lesstoamorebum, what's it gonna be? Are you in or out?

I think that Nietzsche was was talking about man's turning away from an objective view of morality...that man had killed the idea of morality/God. I think that Nietzsche was railing against the rise of moral relativism and nihilism.