Fa Xin

Hello, AboveGround, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Hi Ag, Welcome! Qigong and Taijiquan are some of my interests too. I hope you enjoy it here You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin

Very nice. I agree. 😊

Sure, sending an invite now to the email you have listed on TDB account.

Hello, Eclair Blanc, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Hi Eclair, Welcome. There's many representatives of different thoughts and practices here. I am sure you will find a good system that matches you. Enjoy! You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin

Hello, Daoist1911, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Hi Daoist1911, Welcome to the forum. Good to hear your seeking more info about meditation. Psychedelics can help spark a seeking in us. I'm glad you were OK from it. I hope you find what your looking for here! You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin

Yikes 😊

The journey is the destination wooo wooo

I wonder if getting to that point is like a process of elimination. Like you try everything else first, then at the end your left with nothing except to just be. A sort of giving up, but one that comes quite naturally after exhausting all other avenues. That’d be nice, simply because it would fit with the theme of the original post.

Hello, Taliesin McKnight, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Hi Taliesin, Welcome. Nice to meet you too. There’s lots of info about the topics you listed. I hope you enjoy it! You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin

How to get to this point ?

Can you give an example of the spiritual discipline kind? I imagine the prepatory stuff is like watching the breath or being present. What’s the other side to it? Thanks

I like this. I was at a Museum a few weeks ago and I was really taken with the Bird section. I spent a lot of time looking at them, and I wasn't sure why I was drawn there. Upon leaving, I mentioned to my girlfriend I should take up bird watching. Her response suggested she was "dating an old man" Maybe theres a reason for my interest, after all !

Haha yes the wording is a bit jumbled at the beginning. For me, it's pointing to the Father's kingdom being within, not "above". Instead of saying "As above, so below"... it may be more accurate to say "as within, so without" A very interesting line in the verse for me is "Go to your room, shut the door behind you and pray to your Father who is in secret" It's also found in Matthew 6:5 5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." In this version, the "mystical" interpretation is not spelled out as it is in Philip. In the Matthew verse, one could just think they mean - don't be praying for the image of it...so others can see you. Which is a valid interpretation, too, of course. Philip just goes a bit more esoteric with it.

Hello, MCshOman, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Fa Xin and the TDB team Hi MCshOman, Welcome. Its all about the work... Im glad your enjoying the site. Good to have you here. You are welcome to jump right in to the ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forum to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Fa Xin

"[For this reason] he said, “I have come to make [the lower] like the [upper and the] outer like the [inner, and to unite] them in that place.” [He spoke] here in symbols [and images]. Those who say [there is a heavenly person and] one that is higher are wrong, for they call the visible heavenly person [68] “lower” and the one to whom the hidden realm belongs “higher.” It would be better for them to speak of the inner, the outer, and the outermost. For the master called corruption “the outermost darkness,” and there is nothing outside it. He said, “My father who is in secret.” He said, “Go into your room, shut the door behind you, and pray to your father who is in secret”—that is, the one who is innermost. What is innermost is the fullness, and there is nothing further within. And this is what they call uppermost." -Gospel of Philip

I agree with everyone on this. Just relax into the movements and enjoy it.

I was in a Psych class last week and the teacher stopped what he was doing, shut the lights off and told us to close our eyes and focus on our breath for a few minutes. He also had us do a before and after pulse check. It was a welcome break during the 4 hour class. 😊

Is it possible for us to bring ourselves to perfection? Are we the ones who do it, as a result of our actions?

The Newcomers area is kind of just a Chat area where people can elaborate on their stories or questions. Think of it like a Bridge between a Welcome post and the main forum. Not necessary to post there if you don’t want to though. Once your Welcome post is approved you have access to all of the forum.

Haha! I see the lizard too. Rorschachs are fun. Thanks

Which feels more natural?

Yes it’s hard at times. You put it very eloquently. Thank you 😊 “love your neighbor as yourself” has a deep meaning too 😊

I consider the separation to be from God, and the bridal chamber to be our heart or inner world, where you are joined with the Divine presence. To be separated is “to die”, and to be in the bridal chamber is to be one with the Divine and to live.

Im glad your enjoying it! Many of them can be found on this website, is the one I use to pull quotes for Gosp of Philip and Thomas. http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gop.html

"If the woman had not separated from the man, she should not die with the man. His separation became the beginning of death. Because of this, Christ came to repair the separation, which was from the beginning, and again unite the two, and to give life to those who died as a result of the separation, and unite them. But the woman is united to her husband in the bridal chamber. Indeed, those who have united in the bridal chamber will no longer be separated. Thus Eve separated from Adam because it was not in the bridal chamber that she united with him." -Gospel of Philip